Netanyahu to Attend a USS Liberty Memorial?

[P F Tinmore]

Here we go. More antisemitic garbage, and futile rehashing of conspiracies, over and over. How pathetic.

Israel wants to ban history as antisemitic.

 

[fanger]

Roudy think´s this is ¨Funny¨?




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[fanger]

Jews are EVIL but are so freaking educated you non-Jews don't stand a chance.

The word your looking for is ¨Cunning¨

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Because the USS Liberty is one of those old antisemtic canards often repeated by Jew hating bigots of assorted varieties.

if you say so. i still can't wrap my head around how a ship sailing in international waters with american designations and flying an american flag and without armaments larger than a .50 caliber can be mistaken as an egyptian warship.

but some people will swallow any lie.

It isn't a lie, it was a covert surveillance ship sent in to keep an eye and gather intelligence on the Arab Israeli war, during the height of the war. It was mistaken as a ship or an Arab ship disguised as American and was shot at. Seven independent govt. investigations, one of the most investigated events in history, concluded that it was an accident. Israel apologized and paid reparations.

But antisemites won't let it go, they're gonna beat this dead horse until eternity, because that's all they got. Bullshit and conpiracies.

A desperate war, fought on 3 fronts against 3 or more enemies, at optimum speed of 6 days' duration, and they just cannot imagine how a friendly-fire incident could occur. I remember how I would watch the evening news regularly during both Gulf Wars, and I would hear of a friendly-fire incident practically every night! ogbillim, why can't you give Israel the benefit of the doubt, like you do to Trayvon Martin? Also, you haven't supplied any motive for this alleged crime. What would they hope to gain by antagonizing the U.S., practically their only ally at the time?

Also, most people don't know that Israel wasn't an official "ally" of the US until after the 67 war. By then Israel had fought all it's major wars without any help or military assistance from the US. Hence the reason for that US spy ship so close to the Sinai peninsula where all the action was. The goal was to keep an eye just in case it looked like Israel MIGHT need the US to step in.

The Israelis knew it was a US naval vessel and attacked it. Killed many Americans and the U.S. never responded in kind because Jews had and have substantial control over the U.S. That's just a fact.

You haven't answered the question of , "Why would they do that? What would they gain by that?" Also, since y'all haven't been to Israel, you might not know that Israelis practically worship America and American culture.

 

[Challenger]

if you say so. i still can't wrap my head around how a ship sailing in international waters with american designations and flying an american flag and without armaments larger than a .50 caliber can be mistaken as an egyptian warship.

but some people will swallow any lie.

It isn't a lie, it was a covert surveillance ship sent in to keep an eye and gather intelligence on the Arab Israeli war, during the height of the war. It was mistaken as a ship or an Arab ship disguised as American and was shot at. Seven independent govt. investigations, one of the most investigated events in history, concluded that it was an accident. Israel apologized and paid reparations.

But antisemites won't let it go, they're gonna beat this dead horse until eternity, because that's all they got. Bullshit and conpiracies.

A desperate war, fought on 3 fronts against 3 or more enemies, at optimum speed of 6 days' duration, and they just cannot imagine how a friendly-fire incident could occur. I remember how I would watch the evening news regularly during both Gulf Wars, and I would hear of a friendly-fire incident practically every night! ogbillim, why can't you give Israel the benefit of the doubt, like you do to Trayvon Martin? Also, you haven't supplied any motive for this alleged crime. What would they hope to gain by antagonizing the U.S., practically their only ally at the time?

Also, most people don't know that Israel wasn't an official "ally" of the US until after the 67 war. By then Israel had fought all it's major wars without any help or military assistance from the US. Hence the reason for that US spy ship so close to the Sinai peninsula where all the action was. The goal was to keep an eye just in case it looked like Israel MIGHT need the US to step in.

The Israelis knew it was a US naval vessel and attacked it. Killed many Americans and the U.S. never responded in kind because Jews had and have substantial control over the U.S. That's just a fact.

You haven't answered the question of , "Why would they do that? What would they gain by that?" Also, since y'all haven't been to Israel, you might not know that Israelis practically worship America and American culture.

Some possible and plausable explanations;

"Among the most popular theories as to why Israel would take such drastic action against its superpower ally is that the Liberty, a $40m state-of-the-art surveillance ship, was eavesdropping on an Israeli massacre of Egyptian prisoners of war. Israel strongly denies its troops executed Egyptian POWs, saying those who died in an incident at that time were 250 armed Palestinian fighters killed in action.

Another is that the ship had learnt of secret Israeli plans to invade Syria's Golan Heights two days later and had to be destroyed.

'US collusion' theory

Perhaps the most sinister motive is that put forward by journalist Peter Hounam in his 2003 book "Operation Cyanide".

Mr Hounam claims secret elements within the US and Israeli governments colluded to bomb the ship and blame the attack on Egypt and their superpower ally, the Soviet Union, triggering massive retaliation which would ensure Israeli victory.

"The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand," Mr Hounam says.

"The Liberty was sent into a very dangerous situation, where it was, in my view, placed in a position to be attacked."

Mr Hounam says the intention was to sink the ship and kill everyone on board, but as the Liberty remained afloat the plan was aborted and has been hushed up ever since." BBC NEWS | Middle East | Why did Israel attack USS Liberty?

 

[Phoenall]

The link says that Israel mistook the Liberty for an Egyptian carrier. You have to remember that Israel was fighting on 3 fronts, in a very short six day period. There was no reason for Israel to expect an American ship to be in the middle of the Mediterannian Sea at that time. Have you ever been in the fog of war? Besides, Israelis worship America so much that it's almost sickening, and I suspect it was the same at that time too.

What's much more sickening is america's dysfunctional obsession with Israel. We've become so accustomed to excusing and engaging in denial of Israel’s protracted occupation, settlement expansions and violence that we now discount the word of our own armed service personnel.

Yes, but I was specifically talking about the Liberty incident. My Israeli relatives never stop talking about, or marvelling at, America. Obama has criticized Israel in the areas you've mentioned. As for the incident itself: 1) Does EVERYONE from the Liberty believe that it was deliberate? 2) How can they know it from Israel's point of view? 3) Weren't there already about 7 or 8 investigations that absolved Israel?

"My Israeli relatives never stop talking about, or marvelling at, America."

And why wouldn't they. We fight their proxy wars for them, hand them about 20% or so of the funding for their defense budget, and back them no matter what they ever do, atrocities and all.

What proxy war have you fought in then ?

Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens

"What proxy war have you fought in then ?"

The US, you remember?

"Get back double what you pay out, yet give the arabs 10 times as much with nothing in return other than mass murder of your citizens"

You're making shit up again. "Double"? "10 times"? Bullshit, pulling random numbers out your ass.

So you have fought in the US of A against whom ?

No facts as most of the USA's research and development is done by Israel, and Israel is contracted to buy US weapons at full price using the loans you think are aid.

I leave the LIES to you and the rest of team Palestine.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

It isn't a lie, it was a covert surveillance ship sent in to keep an eye and gather intelligence on the Arab Israeli war, during the height of the war. It was mistaken as a ship or an Arab ship disguised as American and was shot at. Seven independent govt. investigations, one of the most investigated events in history, concluded that it was an accident. Israel apologized and paid reparations.

But antisemites won't let it go, they're gonna beat this dead horse until eternity, because that's all they got. Bullshit and conpiracies.

A desperate war, fought on 3 fronts against 3 or more enemies, at optimum speed of 6 days' duration, and they just cannot imagine how a friendly-fire incident could occur. I remember how I would watch the evening news regularly during both Gulf Wars, and I would hear of a friendly-fire incident practically every night! ogbillim, why can't you give Israel the benefit of the doubt, like you do to Trayvon Martin? Also, you haven't supplied any motive for this alleged crime. What would they hope to gain by antagonizing the U.S., practically their only ally at the time?

Also, most people don't know that Israel wasn't an official "ally" of the US until after the 67 war. By then Israel had fought all it's major wars without any help or military assistance from the US. Hence the reason for that US spy ship so close to the Sinai peninsula where all the action was. The goal was to keep an eye just in case it looked like Israel MIGHT need the US to step in.

The Israelis knew it was a US naval vessel and attacked it. Killed many Americans and the U.S. never responded in kind because Jews had and have substantial control over the U.S. That's just a fact.

You haven't answered the question of , "Why would they do that? What would they gain by that?" Also, since y'all haven't been to Israel, you might not know that Israelis practically worship America and American culture.

Some possible and plausable explanations;

"Among the most popular theories as to why Israel would take such drastic action against its superpower ally is that the Liberty, a $40m state-of-the-art surveillance ship, was eavesdropping on an Israeli massacre of Egyptian prisoners of war. Israel strongly denies its troops executed Egyptian POWs, saying those who died in an incident at that time were 250 armed Palestinian fighters killed in action.

Another is that the ship had learnt of secret Israeli plans to invade Syria's Golan Heights two days later and had to be destroyed.

'US collusion' theory

Perhaps the most sinister motive is that put forward by journalist Peter Hounam in his 2003 book "Operation Cyanide".

Mr Hounam claims secret elements within the US and Israeli governments colluded to bomb the ship and blame the attack on Egypt and their superpower ally, the Soviet Union, triggering massive retaliation which would ensure Israeli victory.

"The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand," Mr Hounam says.

"The Liberty was sent into a very dangerous situation, where it was, in my view, placed in a position to be attacked."

Mr Hounam says the intention was to sink the ship and kill everyone on board, but as the Liberty remained afloat the plan was aborted and has been hushed up ever since." BBC NEWS | Middle East | Why did Israel attack USS Liberty?

Well, according to the last theory, the U.S. was complicit in sinking its own ship, in order to gain points in the Cold War. If that's true, then America should have joined Israel when she paid $15 million dollars, in damages, to the victims and their relatives.

 

[Hollie]

It isn't a lie, it was a covert surveillance ship sent in to keep an eye and gather intelligence on the Arab Israeli war, during the height of the war. It was mistaken as a ship or an Arab ship disguised as American and was shot at. Seven independent govt. investigations, one of the most investigated events in history, concluded that it was an accident. Israel apologized and paid reparations.

But antisemites won't let it go, they're gonna beat this dead horse until eternity, because that's all they got. Bullshit and conpiracies.

A desperate war, fought on 3 fronts against 3 or more enemies, at optimum speed of 6 days' duration, and they just cannot imagine how a friendly-fire incident could occur. I remember how I would watch the evening news regularly during both Gulf Wars, and I would hear of a friendly-fire incident practically every night! ogbillim, why can't you give Israel the benefit of the doubt, like you do to Trayvon Martin? Also, you haven't supplied any motive for this alleged crime. What would they hope to gain by antagonizing the U.S., practically their only ally at the time?

Also, most people don't know that Israel wasn't an official "ally" of the US until after the 67 war. By then Israel had fought all it's major wars without any help or military assistance from the US. Hence the reason for that US spy ship so close to the Sinai peninsula where all the action was. The goal was to keep an eye just in case it looked like Israel MIGHT need the US to step in.

The Israelis knew it was a US naval vessel and attacked it. Killed many Americans and the U.S. never responded in kind because Jews had and have substantial control over the U.S. That's just a fact.

You haven't answered the question of , "Why would they do that? What would they gain by that?" Also, since y'all haven't been to Israel, you might not know that Israelis practically worship America and American culture.

Some possible and plausable explanations;

"Among the most popular theories as to why Israel would take such drastic action against its superpower ally is that the Liberty, a $40m state-of-the-art surveillance ship, was eavesdropping on an Israeli massacre of Egyptian prisoners of war. Israel strongly denies its troops executed Egyptian POWs, saying those who died in an incident at that time were 250 armed Palestinian fighters killed in action.

Another is that the ship had learnt of secret Israeli plans to invade Syria's Golan Heights two days later and had to be destroyed.

'US collusion' theory

Perhaps the most sinister motive is that put forward by journalist Peter Hounam in his 2003 book "Operation Cyanide".

Mr Hounam claims secret elements within the US and Israeli governments colluded to bomb the ship and blame the attack on Egypt and their superpower ally, the Soviet Union, triggering massive retaliation which would ensure Israeli victory.

"The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand," Mr Hounam says.

"The Liberty was sent into a very dangerous situation, where it was, in my view, placed in a position to be attacked."

Mr Hounam says the intention was to sink the ship and kill everyone on board, but as the Liberty remained afloat the plan was aborted and has been hushed up ever since." BBC NEWS | Middle East | Why did Israel attack USS Liberty?

Yes, conspiracy theories are fun, aren't they?

One of the downsides to the internet is that while it can be an invaluable resource for data, it can also be a playground for conspiracy theorists who spend enormous amounts of time scouring the web for material to cut and paste.

 

[Phoenall]

It isn't a lie, it was a covert surveillance ship sent in to keep an eye and gather intelligence on the Arab Israeli war, during the height of the war. It was mistaken as a ship or an Arab ship disguised as American and was shot at. Seven independent govt. investigations, one of the most investigated events in history, concluded that it was an accident. Israel apologized and paid reparations.

But antisemites won't let it go, they're gonna beat this dead horse until eternity, because that's all they got. Bullshit and conpiracies.

A desperate war, fought on 3 fronts against 3 or more enemies, at optimum speed of 6 days' duration, and they just cannot imagine how a friendly-fire incident could occur. I remember how I would watch the evening news regularly during both Gulf Wars, and I would hear of a friendly-fire incident practically every night! ogbillim, why can't you give Israel the benefit of the doubt, like you do to Trayvon Martin? Also, you haven't supplied any motive for this alleged crime. What would they hope to gain by antagonizing the U.S., practically their only ally at the time?

Also, most people don't know that Israel wasn't an official "ally" of the US until after the 67 war. By then Israel had fought all it's major wars without any help or military assistance from the US. Hence the reason for that US spy ship so close to the Sinai peninsula where all the action was. The goal was to keep an eye just in case it looked like Israel MIGHT need the US to step in.

The Israelis knew it was a US naval vessel and attacked it. Killed many Americans and the U.S. never responded in kind because Jews had and have substantial control over the U.S. That's just a fact.

You haven't answered the question of , "Why would they do that? What would they gain by that?" Also, since y'all haven't been to Israel, you might not know that Israelis practically worship America and American culture.

Some possible and plausable explanations;

"Among the most popular theories as to why Israel would take such drastic action against its superpower ally is that the Liberty, a $40m state-of-the-art surveillance ship, was eavesdropping on an Israeli massacre of Egyptian prisoners of war. Israel strongly denies its troops executed Egyptian POWs, saying those who died in an incident at that time were 250 armed Palestinian fighters killed in action.

Another is that the ship had learnt of secret Israeli plans to invade Syria's Golan Heights two days later and had to be destroyed.

'US collusion' theory

Perhaps the most sinister motive is that put forward by journalist Peter Hounam in his 2003 book "Operation Cyanide".

Mr Hounam claims secret elements within the US and Israeli governments colluded to bomb the ship and blame the attack on Egypt and their superpower ally, the Soviet Union, triggering massive retaliation which would ensure Israeli victory.

"The attack on the Liberty was pre-planned, perhaps from at least a year beforehand," Mr Hounam says.

"The Liberty was sent into a very dangerous situation, where it was, in my view, placed in a position to be attacked."

Mr Hounam says the intention was to sink the ship and kill everyone on board, but as the Liberty remained afloat the plan was aborted and has been hushed up ever since." BBC NEWS | Middle East | Why did Israel attack USS Liberty?

And at the end of the day it was down to the US LYING about its position, and telling Israel that it was 100 miles away. As for being state of the art, it was war surplus just one of hundreds of identical WW2 freighters built to serve the needs of the allies. The Egyptian navy has some of the vessels and so could be very easily mistaken for one of those vessels. People need to read the whole story and not just the parts that meet with their POV

 

[Phoenall]

The President of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, Ernest A. Gallo, sent a letter dated January 10, 2016 to President Barack Obama requesting that he invite Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to attend a Memorial Service at Arlington National Cemetery at noon on June 8, 2016 commemorating the June 8, 1967 Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY in which 32 Americans were killed and 171 were wounded.
Target Liberty: Obama Challenged to Invite Netanyahu to Attend a Memorial Service Commemorating Those Who Died in the Israeli Attack of the USS LIberty

He don´t have the balls

And as the official report shows it was an accident, just as the killing of the British soldiers in Iraq by American gung ho pilots was also an accident. Will Obama apologise for those deaths ?

right. the giant american flag, ship configuration, and american markings were somehow all missed on multiple attack runs.

Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

Depends upon whether they were white and had money.

Serving soldiers that were doing the work the US troops found too dangerous, and the US bombed then even with the electronic idents and the right markings for that day. If the British government backed the families demands the US would be morally bankrupt and shown to be the worst offender for friendly fire incidents.

 

[Phoenall]

The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.

HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE

 

[Phoenall]

The President of the USS Liberty Veterans Association, Ernest A. Gallo, sent a letter dated January 10, 2016 to President Barack Obama requesting that he invite Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to attend a Memorial Service at Arlington National Cemetery at noon on June 8, 2016 commemorating the June 8, 1967 Israeli attack on the USS LIBERTY in which 32 Americans were killed and 171 were wounded.
Target Liberty: Obama Challenged to Invite Netanyahu to Attend a Memorial Service Commemorating Those Who Died in the Israeli Attack of the USS LIberty

He don´t have the balls

And as the official report shows it was an accident, just as the killing of the British soldiers in Iraq by American gung ho pilots was also an accident. Will Obama apologise for those deaths ?

right. the giant american flag, ship configuration, and american markings were somehow all missed on multiple attack runs.

Like the huge Union jack and the electronic ident that matched the daily one, and still your pilots killed British soldiers. I wonder what those soldiers lives would be worth in an American court ?

if you're going to discuss a specific incident it would be wise to name it

Iraq war when it happened every week or so according to the reports we saw and heard. Here you go pick out the ones that were not friendly fire


TAB H -- Friendly-fire Incidents

 

[Phoenall]

Looks like the Jew haters have descended on this thread like.....

jew haters? who brought up religion? who even said 'jew' but you?

Who mentioned religion, it is hatred of the Jews that was brought up. Those people that are distinct in their DNA as to be a race, that lived in Judea and Samaria for 4,500 years and were taken as slaves by the Romans, Catholics and muslims from 70 C.E. to 1923 C.E. Hatred of the Jews has nothing to do with their religion, but all to do with the haters religion or lack of it.

 

[Phoenall]

Looks like the Jew haters have descended on this thread like.....

jew haters? who brought up religion? who even said 'jew' but you?

Because the USS Liberty is one of those old antisemtic canards often repeated by Jew hating bigots of assorted varieties.

if you say so. i still can't wrap my head around how a ship sailing in international waters with american designations and flying an american flag and without armaments larger than a .50 caliber can be mistaken as an egyptian warship.

but some people will swallow any lie.

Because it was inside Egyptian waters to begin with, was not identified as American, had a super size flag draped over its foredeck to cover what could be heavy weapons and was the exact same shape as all of the other war surplus vessels of the class. Research the subject and see how you are just parroting Jew hate and white supremacy sites.

 

[Phoenall]

The source of your video is



Islamic videos



So once again you rely on islamonazi propaganda because you have nothing else.

 

[Phoenall]

Because the USS Liberty is one of those old antisemtic canards often repeated by Jew hating bigots of assorted varieties.

if you say so. i still can't wrap my head around how a ship sailing in international waters with american designations and flying an american flag and without armaments larger than a .50 caliber can be mistaken as an egyptian warship.

but some people will swallow any lie.

It isn't a lie, it was a covert surveillance ship sent in to keep an eye and gather intelligence on the Arab Israeli war, during the height of the war. It was mistaken as a ship or an Arab ship disguised as American and was shot at. Seven independent govt. investigations, one of the most investigated events in history, concluded that it was an accident. Israel apologized and paid reparations.

But antisemites won't let it go, they're gonna beat this dead horse until eternity, because that's all they got. Bullshit and conpiracies.

A desperate war, fought on 3 fronts against 3 or more enemies, at optimum speed of 6 days' duration, and they just cannot imagine how a friendly-fire incident could occur. I remember how I would watch the evening news regularly during both Gulf Wars, and I would hear of a friendly-fire incident practically every night! ogbillim, why can't you give Israel the benefit of the doubt, like you do to Trayvon Martin? Also, you haven't supplied any motive for this alleged crime. What would they hope to gain by antagonizing the U.S., practically their only ally at the time?

Also, most people don't know that Israel wasn't an official "ally" of the US until after the 67 war. By then Israel had fought all it's major wars without any help or military assistance from the US. Hence the reason for that US spy ship so close to the Sinai peninsula where all the action was. The goal was to keep an eye just in case it looked like Israel MIGHT need the US to step in.

The Israelis knew it was a US naval vessel and attacked it. Killed many Americans and the U.S. never responded in kind because Jews had and have substantial control over the U.S. That's just a fact.

EVIDENCE as the US stated the vessel was 100 miles away at the time

 

[Phoenall]

Here we go. More antisemitic garbage, and futile rehashing of conspiracies, over and over. How pathetic.

Israel wants to ban history as antisemitic.

LINK from a non islamonazi propaganda source

 

[Phoenall]

Roudy think´s this is ¨Funny¨?




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Islamic videos that is funny as it ls hardly truthful

 

[Phoenall]

Jews are EVIL but are so freaking educated you non-Jews don't stand a chance.

The word your looking for is ¨Cunning¨

Unlike the muslims who are illiterate, psychopathic, inhuman and liars

 

[Freeman]

The terrorists behind the Lavon affair are the same of the attack of USS Liberty. A false flag against Egypt.

HOW ABOUT SOME EVIDENCE FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE

"The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers."

Lavon Affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia