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Not really...you need either a driver's license or a state issued non-drivers license as an ID for almost anything.
Exactly!
State issued ID is not a National ID
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Not really...you need either a driver's license or a state issued non-drivers license as an ID for almost anything.
We already have a national id.
And let's not forget that the RWs have been against an ID that would identify undocumented by name and location. Any reason to believe they've changed their "minds"?
Most state issued ID is compliant with the National ID requirements now.Not really...you need either a driver's license or a state issued non-drivers license as an ID for almost anything.
Exactly!
State issued ID is not a National ID
Same rules would apply to a national IDI didn't bring it up. If a cop stops you for suspicion of shoplifting, you have to give them something.You do not have to provide ID right now if you are stopped without cause. A National ID will be the same. Just say no if you are asked.for me, there are two reasons I am AGAINST IT....Do you support an ID to vote?
of course I do,,,it would be stupid and irresponsible to not
Then why not a national id?
When we are required to have one, then we will be required to show one... much like the Gestapo asking for your ''papers'' when you are simply walking down the street.... or playing ball at the playground, or who knows? a slippery slope that some of us rejected when the patriot act forced all states to issue driver's licenses with rfid tracking, a chip, or something of the sort I believe, with a National list.... or they threatened to do something similar.... that my State sued with other states and refused to do such with our driver's licenses.... but the Federal gvt threatened to hold back fed funds that Maine needed and the State finally gave in....about 4 years after most of the other states....
and you know whatever they claim will be the only reason to show it will be constantly changed with any new crisis or emergency, to increase the situations where you have to show it to the government...
how is that living ''in the land of the free''?
and second, which all leads to my fears in the first reason, is Bible Prophesy... ''no one will be able to buy or sell, without a chip, a chip in your right hand...'' the technology is there now and yes people are embedding these chips that have their credit card bar code encoded so they can make purchases by just wanding their hand....
so, I can just see within a few years or decade after we are forced to carry a National ID with us at all times for alleged national security purposes, that some instances come up that show the national id card can be counter-fitted and they begin teasing us with proposals of a chip in the hand as being the ONLY safe way to prove who you are.... according to our govt....
and all of this according to prophesy, is the movement of the anti-christ...
thus, I do not support it!
y'all can do what ya want...
but over my dead body, will I agree to it!
The biblical reason is just plain silly
How do you know that things will change and force you to show your state ID right now?it might be silly and was silly for the past 2000 years, but low and behold, the technology is here, to make it come true!You do not have to provide ID right now if you are stopped without cause. A National ID will be the same. Just say no if you are asked.for me, there are two reasons I am AGAINST IT....Do you support an ID to vote?
of course I do,,,it would be stupid and irresponsible to not
Then why not a national id?
When we are required to have one, then we will be required to show one... much like the Gestapo asking for your ''papers'' when you are simply walking down the street.... or playing ball at the playground, or who knows? a slippery slope that some of us rejected when the patriot act forced all states to issue driver's licenses with rfid tracking, a chip, or something of the sort I believe, with a National list.... or they threatened to do something similar.... that my State sued with other states and refused to do such with our driver's licenses.... but the Federal gvt threatened to hold back fed funds that Maine needed and the State finally gave in....about 4 years after most of the other states....
and you know whatever they claim will be the only reason to show it will be constantly changed with any new crisis or emergency, to increase the situations where you have to show it to the government...
how is that living ''in the land of the free''?
and second, which all leads to my fears in the first reason, is Bible Prophesy... ''no one will be able to buy or sell, without a chip, a chip in your right hand...'' the technology is there now and yes people are embedding these chips that have their credit card bar code encoded so they can make purchases by just wanding their hand....
so, I can just see within a few years or decade after we are forced to carry a National ID with us at all times for alleged national security purposes, that some instances come up that show the national id card can be counter-fitted and they begin teasing us with proposals of a chip in the hand as being the ONLY safe way to prove who you are.... according to our govt....
and all of this according to prophesy, is the movement of the anti-christ...
thus, I do not support it!
y'all can do what ya want...
but over my dead body, will I agree to it!
The biblical reason is just plain silly
And how DO YOU KNOW it will stay the same as now, where cops can't force you to show your national id when they ask?
WHY have it, if they can't ask then force.. you to show it....??
and then, if you can look past the first step of a national id and in to the future, when the national id can be compromised and counter-fitted, what will they force us to do for our national security next? The newest and the latest technology, is my guess, a chip implant.... counterfeit proof, so we will be told... I can envision the slippery slope
what's the purpose of needing one?
The new id you submit to facial recognition plus rf id. It is basically the number of the beast. Soon you will not be able to buy or trade with out it and super computer will be able to track your every move.when youre registered with the government you are no longer a free person,,,What are the arguments against it?
But I am already with my drivers license.
No, honestly, you do not have to legally show the cop your ID...I didn't bring it up. If a cop stops you for suspicion of shoplifting, you have to give them something.You do not have to provide ID right now if you are stopped without cause. A National ID will be the same. Just say no if you are asked.for me, there are two reasons I am AGAINST IT....Do you support an ID to vote?
of course I do,,,it would be stupid and irresponsible to not
Then why not a national id?
When we are required to have one, then we will be required to show one... much like the Gestapo asking for your ''papers'' when you are simply walking down the street.... or playing ball at the playground, or who knows? a slippery slope that some of us rejected when the patriot act forced all states to issue driver's licenses with rfid tracking, a chip, or something of the sort I believe, with a National list.... or they threatened to do something similar.... that my State sued with other states and refused to do such with our driver's licenses.... but the Federal gvt threatened to hold back fed funds that Maine needed and the State finally gave in....about 4 years after most of the other states....
and you know whatever they claim will be the only reason to show it will be constantly changed with any new crisis or emergency, to increase the situations where you have to show it to the government...
how is that living ''in the land of the free''?
and second, which all leads to my fears in the first reason, is Bible Prophesy... ''no one will be able to buy or sell, without a chip, a chip in your right hand...'' the technology is there now and yes people are embedding these chips that have their credit card bar code encoded so they can make purchases by just wanding their hand....
so, I can just see within a few years or decade after we are forced to carry a National ID with us at all times for alleged national security purposes, that some instances come up that show the national id card can be counter-fitted and they begin teasing us with proposals of a chip in the hand as being the ONLY safe way to prove who you are.... according to our govt....
and all of this according to prophesy, is the movement of the anti-christ...
thus, I do not support it!
y'all can do what ya want...
but over my dead body, will I agree to it!
The biblical reason is just plain silly
Can you support your assumptions with a link, pretty please.You have to give a SS number if arrested.nope, you DO NOT have to show the cop ID, ever! He can arrest you for shop lifting, no ID required or mandatory for you to show.....I didn't bring it up. If a cop stops you for suspicion of shoplifting, you have to give them something.You do not have to provide ID right now if you are stopped without cause. A National ID will be the same. Just say no if you are asked.for me, there are two reasons I am AGAINST IT....Then why not a national id?
When we are required to have one, then we will be required to show one... much like the Gestapo asking for your ''papers'' when you are simply walking down the street.... or playing ball at the playground, or who knows? a slippery slope that some of us rejected when the patriot act forced all states to issue driver's licenses with rfid tracking, a chip, or something of the sort I believe, with a National list.... or they threatened to do something similar.... that my State sued with other states and refused to do such with our driver's licenses.... but the Federal gvt threatened to hold back fed funds that Maine needed and the State finally gave in....about 4 years after most of the other states....
and you know whatever they claim will be the only reason to show it will be constantly changed with any new crisis or emergency, to increase the situations where you have to show it to the government...
how is that living ''in the land of the free''?
and second, which all leads to my fears in the first reason, is Bible Prophesy... ''no one will be able to buy or sell, without a chip, a chip in your right hand...'' the technology is there now and yes people are embedding these chips that have their credit card bar code encoded so they can make purchases by just wanding their hand....
so, I can just see within a few years or decade after we are forced to carry a National ID with us at all times for alleged national security purposes, that some instances come up that show the national id card can be counter-fitted and they begin teasing us with proposals of a chip in the hand as being the ONLY safe way to prove who you are.... according to our govt....
and all of this according to prophesy, is the movement of the anti-christ...
thus, I do not support it!
y'all can do what ya want...
but over my dead body, will I agree to it!
The biblical reason is just plain silly
that's THE LAW.
No, honestly, you do not have to legally show the cop your ID...I didn't bring it up. If a cop stops you for suspicion of shoplifting, you have to give them something.You do not have to provide ID right now if you are stopped without cause. A National ID will be the same. Just say no if you are asked.for me, there are two reasons I am AGAINST IT....of course I do,,,it would be stupid and irresponsible to not
Then why not a national id?
When we are required to have one, then we will be required to show one... much like the Gestapo asking for your ''papers'' when you are simply walking down the street.... or playing ball at the playground, or who knows? a slippery slope that some of us rejected when the patriot act forced all states to issue driver's licenses with rfid tracking, a chip, or something of the sort I believe, with a National list.... or they threatened to do something similar.... that my State sued with other states and refused to do such with our driver's licenses.... but the Federal gvt threatened to hold back fed funds that Maine needed and the State finally gave in....about 4 years after most of the other states....
and you know whatever they claim will be the only reason to show it will be constantly changed with any new crisis or emergency, to increase the situations where you have to show it to the government...
how is that living ''in the land of the free''?
and second, which all leads to my fears in the first reason, is Bible Prophesy... ''no one will be able to buy or sell, without a chip, a chip in your right hand...'' the technology is there now and yes people are embedding these chips that have their credit card bar code encoded so they can make purchases by just wanding their hand....
so, I can just see within a few years or decade after we are forced to carry a National ID with us at all times for alleged national security purposes, that some instances come up that show the national id card can be counter-fitted and they begin teasing us with proposals of a chip in the hand as being the ONLY safe way to prove who you are.... according to our govt....
and all of this according to prophesy, is the movement of the anti-christ...
thus, I do not support it!
y'all can do what ya want...
but over my dead body, will I agree to it!
The biblical reason is just plain silly
Can you support your assumptions with a link, pretty please.You have to give a SS number if arrested.nope, you DO NOT have to show the cop ID, ever! He can arrest you for shop lifting, no ID required or mandatory for you to show.....I didn't bring it up. If a cop stops you for suspicion of shoplifting, you have to give them something.You do not have to provide ID right now if you are stopped without cause. A National ID will be the same. Just say no if you are asked.for me, there are two reasons I am AGAINST IT....
When we are required to have one, then we will be required to show one... much like the Gestapo asking for your ''papers'' when you are simply walking down the street.... or playing ball at the playground, or who knows? a slippery slope that some of us rejected when the patriot act forced all states to issue driver's licenses with rfid tracking, a chip, or something of the sort I believe, with a National list.... or they threatened to do something similar.... that my State sued with other states and refused to do such with our driver's licenses.... but the Federal gvt threatened to hold back fed funds that Maine needed and the State finally gave in....about 4 years after most of the other states....
and you know whatever they claim will be the only reason to show it will be constantly changed with any new crisis or emergency, to increase the situations where you have to show it to the government...
how is that living ''in the land of the free''?
and second, which all leads to my fears in the first reason, is Bible Prophesy... ''no one will be able to buy or sell, without a chip, a chip in your right hand...'' the technology is there now and yes people are embedding these chips that have their credit card bar code encoded so they can make purchases by just wanding their hand....
so, I can just see within a few years or decade after we are forced to carry a National ID with us at all times for alleged national security purposes, that some instances come up that show the national id card can be counter-fitted and they begin teasing us with proposals of a chip in the hand as being the ONLY safe way to prove who you are.... according to our govt....
and all of this according to prophesy, is the movement of the anti-christ...
thus, I do not support it!
y'all can do what ya want...
but over my dead body, will I agree to it!
The biblical reason is just plain silly
that's THE LAW.
I'm uncertain what's required once you are being booked, but on the street or in the store where the cop caught you shop lifting, you are NOT by law, required to show the cop I'd.