NASA Admits That Winters are Going to Get Colder…Much Colder

[SSDD]

So, CO2 emissions cause a reduction in sun spots! Who knew?

CO2 is all powerful

 

[flacaltenn]

So, CO2 emissions cause a reduction in sun spots! Who knew?

CO2 is all powerful

CO2
CO2

Light the fires and kick the tires -- Winter is coming !!!

 

[jc456]

So, CO2 emissions cause a reduction in sun spots! Who knew?

CO2 is all powerful

CO2
CO2

Light the fires and kick the tires -- Winter is coming !!!

well I really wish our CO2 in Chicago were as effective as in Oregon. Theirs is special and actually gives them warm. Ask socks.

 

[I amso IR]

A former NASA consultant is not the consensus of NASA.

This is an unethical and lying OP.

Climatologist John Casey, a former space shuttle engineer and NASA consultant, thinks that last year’s winter, described by USA Today as “one of the snowiest, coldest, most miserable on record” is going to be a regular occurrence over the coming decades.

Have you read John Casey's book?

 

[mamooth]

Why would anyone read yet another denier doomsday cult book, much less waste money on buying it?

If you think it's going to be so impressive, then you buy it, read it, and come back and argue the points.

 

[skookerasbil]

Record cold in half the country this weekend...............

Valentine's Day Weekend Arctic Outbreak to Bring Coldest Air of the Season to Northeast, Subzero Cold to Midwest


Who's not winning?

 

[9aces]

Record cold in half the country this weekend...............

Valentine's Day Weekend Arctic Outbreak to Bring Coldest Air of the Season to Northeast, Subzero Cold to Midwest


Who's not winning?

You forgot to say it's "climate change". Always remember, "Global warming" when warmer..."Climate Change" when colder.

 

[IanC]

Record cold in half the country this weekend...............

Valentine's Day Weekend Arctic Outbreak to Bring Coldest Air of the Season to Northeast, Subzero Cold to Midwest


Who's not winning?

You forgot to say it's "climate change". Always remember, "Global warming" when warmer..."Climate Change" when colder.

Funny 'cause it's true.

 

[jc456]

Why would anyone read yet another denier doomsday cult book, much less waste money on buying it?

If you think it's going to be so impressive, then you buy it, read it, and come back and argue the points.

cult book, much less waste money on buying it?
If you think it's going to be so impressive, then you buy it, read it, and come back and argue the points
Holy crap, did you just post this? Seriously?

You don't want to read it, yet you want to talk about it. Wtf is that like. Sounds exactly what happens on here with you daily. Things you've never read, but happy to lie about.

I will tell you that It's fkn cold as hell today, yesterday, tomorrow and through Sunday. Cold like 5 to 20 degrees F. Wind chlls below zero cold. take your warmer shit and shove it. The planet is doing the talking and proving you wrong again and again and again. And why you most likely never read it.

 

[Old Rocks]

Since I was adding to my AGW file --- I thought Mr. CrickHam would like another..



Solar modulation of Little Ice Age climate in the tropical Andes


Abstract
The underlying causes of late-Holocene climate variability in the tropics are incompletely understood. Here we report a 1,500-year reconstruction of climate history and glaciation in the Venezuelan Andes using lake sediments. Four glacial advances occurred between anno Domini (A.D.) 1250 and 1810, coincident with solar-activity minima. Temperature declines of −3.2 ± 1.4°C and precipitation increases of ≈20% are required to produce the observed glacial responses. These results highlight the sensitivity of high-altitude tropical regions to relatively small changes in radiative forcing, implying even greater probable responses to future anthropogenic forcing.


It's a real shame that a couple clowns SHOUTING like Mann and Hansen -- can drown out all the science that makes their statements look stupid... Like the LIA and MWP were just European things.. Hell -- many of the hockey sticks virtually ignored the tropics.

Thank you for that Article, Mr. Flacaltenn, it definately pointed out the sensitivity to forcing of those glaciers. In fact, it warned of that in the Conclusion;

http://www.pnas.org/content/103/24/8937.full

Conclusions
The data presented here suggest that solar activity has exerted a strong influence on century-scale tropical climate variability during the late Holocene, modulating both precipitation and temperature. Surface cooling is enhanced at high altitudes by feedbacks involving water vapor, ultimately depressing temperatures in the Venezuelan Andes by −3.2 ± 1.4°C during the LIA. It is likely that this mechanism also may serve to amplify the effects of warming trends, irrespective of their origin, which raises concern that global warming will adversely affect high-altitude tropical montane regions (41). Supporting this concern, 20th-century temperature increases have raised the ELAs of tropical glaciers, leading to accelerated ablation and disappearance in many cases (12, 42–44). Our data suggest considerable sensitivity of tropical climate to small changes in radiative forcing from solar irradiance variability. Conservative estimates of net anthropogenic greenhouse-gas radiative forcing for the next 50 yr surpass that of solar forcing in previous centuries (45), implying that profound climatic impacts can be predicted for tropical montane regions.

 

[skookerasbil]

Record cold in half the country this weekend...............

Valentine's Day Weekend Arctic Outbreak to Bring Coldest Air of the Season to Northeast, Subzero Cold to Midwest


Who's not winning?

You forgot to say it's "climate change". Always remember, "Global warming" when warmer..."Climate Change" when colder.

Indeed.................

Well........tonight in New York ( and for at least the next 3 nights ) nobody...........and I mean nobody..........is thinking about climate change ( of course, we do have a handful of mental cases so anything is possible )

You walk from your house to your car tonight and in that short time your balls turn blue. Lots of nut sack warmers being sold this weekend in New York.

Its these massive polar vortex's that lead to polls showing global warming on the very bottom of the list of voter concerns..........when you have to thaw your balls out night after night after getting home from work, has a little bit of an impact your list of priorities. Unless of course you are a global warming nutter!!

 

[flacaltenn]

Since I was adding to my AGW file --- I thought Mr. CrickHam would like another..



Solar modulation of Little Ice Age climate in the tropical Andes


Abstract
The underlying causes of late-Holocene climate variability in the tropics are incompletely understood. Here we report a 1,500-year reconstruction of climate history and glaciation in the Venezuelan Andes using lake sediments. Four glacial advances occurred between anno Domini (A.D.) 1250 and 1810, coincident with solar-activity minima. Temperature declines of −3.2 ± 1.4°C and precipitation increases of ≈20% are required to produce the observed glacial responses. These results highlight the sensitivity of high-altitude tropical regions to relatively small changes in radiative forcing, implying even greater probable responses to future anthropogenic forcing.


It's a real shame that a couple clowns SHOUTING like Mann and Hansen --drown out all the science that makes their statements look stupid... Like the LIA and MWP were just European things.. Hell -- many of the hockey sticks virtually ignored the tropics.

Thank you for that Article, Mr. Flacaltenn, it definately pointed out the sensitivity to forcing of those glaciers. In fact, it warned of that in the Conclusion;

http://www.pnas.org/content/103/24/8937.full

Conclusions
The data presented here suggest that solar activity has exerted a strong influence on century-scale tropical climate variability during the late Holocene, modulating both precipitation and temperature. Surface cooling is enhanced at high altitudes by feedbacks involving water vapor, ultimately depressing temperatures in the Venezuelan Andes by −3.2 ± 1.4°C during the LIA. It is likely that this mechanism also may serve to amplify the effects of warming trends, irrespective of their origin, which raises concern that global warming will adversely affect high-altitude tropical montane regions (41). Supporting this concern, 20th-century temperature increases have raised the ELAs of tropical glaciers, leading to accelerated ablation and disappearance in many cases (12, 42–44). Our data suggest considerable sensitivity of tropical climate to small changes in radiative forcing from solar irradiance variability. Conservative estimates of net anthropogenic greenhouse-gas radiative forcing for the next 50 yr surpass that of solar forcing in previous centuries (45), implying that profound climatic impacts can be predicted for tropical montane regions.

They needed that in there to pass peer review or to satisfy the sponsor. If you notice --- the

"It is likely this mechanism" part doesn't get elaborated. The ONLY mechanism they gave in the previous sentence was -- "Surface cooling is enhanced by feedbacks involving water vapor"..

Are they assuming "less water vapor" in a period of cooling and glacial expansion? And "more water vapor" in a warming period?

The authors struggle with this "mechanism" throughout the paper.. Because they NEED more precipitation to BUILD a glacier during the cool periods. (Or they think they do)

Intuitively, it would seem that cooler temperatures and lower absolute humidity would lead to less precipitation in the Venezuelan Andes during the LIA. However, this view may be reconciled with the paleoclimate data for increased precipitation at the study sites by recognizing that it is the transport of moisture to high elevations that most likely controls the precipitation amount, as has been clearly documented for the Bolivian/Peruvian Andes (38). During the LIA, a steeper latitudinal temperature gradient induced stronger easterly trade winds (20), which may have actually enhanced the transport of moisture to the Venezuelan Andes. Thus, greater moisture flux may have more than compensated for the reduced atmospheric water-vapor concentration.

Give me a wake-up call when we KNOW how uniform atmospheric global warming will affect water vapor content at high altitude in the Andes..

 

[flacaltenn]

For anyone who needs a visual of what a "quiet sun" looks like without sun spots or indications of activity -----

Recent picture of the sun caught napping..

 

[Billy_Bob]

Were below the prediction by 15..

And were dropping faster than they thought..

Mirror image of Sun spot cycle 3.. which, if the cycles continues to repeat itself, will be followed by very low cycles like 4 and 5 were...

The LIA was triggered by this last time and earths temp dropped 2 deg C in short order.. Guess where we are today.. On the edge of the cliff about to fall...Just like the last time..

 

[9aces]

Were below the prediction by 15..

And were dropping faster than they thought..

Mirror image of Sun spot cycle 3.. which, if the cycles continues to repeat itself, will be followed by very low cycles like 4 and 5 were...

The LIA was triggered by this last time and earths temp dropped 2 deg C in short order.. Guess where we are today.. On the edge of the cliff about to fall...Just like the last time..

Guess we should start cranking up the greenhouse gases.

 

[elektra]

People will need Solar Heaters for the cold nights.

 

[Old Rocks]

For anyone who needs a visual of what a "quiet sun" looks like without sun spots or indications of activity -----

Recent picture of the sun caught napping..

And record warmth last year, the year before, and, very likely, this year. Now if we had our normal solar cycle, we could really be enjoying a warmer year, right?

 

[elektra]

And record warmth last year, the year before, and, very likely, this year. Now if we had our normal solar cycle, we could really be enjoying a warmer year, right?

Explain what a normal "solar cycle" is.

 

[Crick]

Because they NEED more precipitation to BUILD a glacier during the cool periods.

The interior of Antarctica has ice kilometers thick, yet it has precipitation levels that rival those of the Atacama. Where did you get the idea that "more" precipitation is required to build a glacier?

 

[Old Rocks]

And record warmth last year, the year before, and, very likely, this year. Now if we had our normal solar cycle, we could really be enjoying a warmer year, right?

Explain what a normal "solar cycle" is.

Google is right there at your fingertips.