My wife was in Walmart today during a shootout

[j-mac]

We do know that a verbal altercation escalated into a shooting match

Yep, and that's ALL you know....For instance you don't know what the argument was about, you don't know how it went down, and you don't know why the 19 year old pulled a gun....

What we do know is that an argument happened, the 19 year old pulled a gun first, and the family guy that pulled his own was in defense of himself and his family. We know that the 19 year old was charged, and the family guy wasn't charged at all...

Say what you want, if you don't want to carry, then don't, but how dare you presume to tell others what they should or shouldn't do....

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Was the guy with the gun a “dangerous felon”?

Yes. Why don't you look it up

 

[j-mac]

Obviously not an intelligent decision for either of these idiots.

Maybe, maybe not, I wasn't there....Neither were you....

All I know from the story I posted is that the 19 year old pulls a gun, and the family guy then pulls his in defense of not only himself, but his family....As a result the 19 year old was charged with 3 counts of aggravated assault with a firearm, and the family guy wasn't....That tells me that him drawing in response to the little thug was the proper use of self defense.

 

[GLASNOST]

You'd have to be a really dickless loser with no personal character or self confidence to trade off insults and slander, allowing it to escalate into a shooting match in the presence of your wife and children.

We don't know that's what happened...

What is it "we don't know that's happened"? Do we know he had words with the other guy? Yes. Do we know those words escalated? Yes. Do we know he got into a shootout with the guy? Yes. Do we know that his wife and children were somewhere in the vicinty? Yes. NOW, all we need to ask ourselves is would a man with any personal character and who cares for the safety and well-being of his family would voluntarily enter such a confrontation with or without a gun? The answer is ...
What else do you want to know? The size of his balls?

 

[GLASNOST]

Yep, and that's ALL you know....For instance you don't know what the argument was about, you don't know how it went down, and you don't know why the 19 year old pulled a gun....

What we do know is that an argument happened, the 19 year old pulled a gun first, and the family guy that pulled his own was in defense of himself and his family. We know that the 19 year old was charged, and the family guy wasn't charged at all...

Say what you want, if you don't want to carry, then don't, but how dare you presume to tell others what they should or shouldn't do....

Read post # 124.

 

[j-mac]

What is it "we don't know that's happened"?

To an extent, that's right.

Do we know he had words with the other guy?

Yes.

Do we know those words escalated?

Yes

Do we know he got into a shootout with the guy?

Yes, and the police investigated it, and found that the 19 year old was the aggressor.

Do we know that his wife and children were somewhere in the vicinty?

Obviously....

NOW, all we need to ask ourselves is would a man with any personal character and who cares for the safety and well-being of his family would voluntarily enter such a confrontation with or without a gun? The answer is ...

Again, the police investigated, and charged the 19 year old, and let the family man go...Which tells me that it might not have been possible to avoid the confrontation...

What else do you want to know? The size of his balls?

Oh that's nice....No, I have no interest in either of their sexual organs...Is that what you are pondering?

What I am considering are several things..

1. What was this altercation over?
2. Who instigated it?
3. How did it unfold?

All of these would tell us what happened...You seem to not care as long as you can blame someone....

And you're coming close to being dishonest, portraying the family guy as the instigator...We already know that is untrue....

 

[j-mac]

Read post # 124.

Already did, and responded to it...Thanks.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... all we need to ask ourselves is would a man with any personal character and who cares for the safety and well-being of his family would voluntarily enter such a confrontation with or without a gun? The answer is ...

the police investigated it, and found that the 19 year old was the aggressor.

What's your point?

.... the police investigated, and charged the 19 year old, and let the family man go...

Still ... what's your point?

Which tells me that it might not have been possible to avoid the confrontation...

You know that's not true as well as I do. "would a man with any personal character and who cares for the safety and well-being of his family would voluntarily enter such a confrontation with or without a gun?"

...You seem to not care as long as you can blame someone....

Are you being serious right now?

And you're coming close to being dishonest, portraying the family guy as the instigator...We already know that is untrue....

"Instigator"? Ho-hum. I do not believe that you are mature enough for this discussion.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Moral of the story: Concealed carry works!

Moral of the story:

More guns = more gun violence

What would have been an argument turned into a shootout, with everyone's missed shots threatening the lives of everyone else in the store.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Because sane people don’t get into a deadly confrontation in a Walmart in front of their family.

Sane people walk away when some idiot starts to argue with you in a Walmart

But you have a gun and get to “Stand your Ground”

You would walk away from someone who threatens you and flashes a gun? That usually gets you DEAD! You are just a coward.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Don’t need one

Neither does any Walmart shopper

The man protecting his family did.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was getting some groceries the other day. I was waiting in line to use the self-checkout. Since the store was really busy, I was standing back a bit to clear a path for people to walk through.

An old lady didn't see me and cut in front of me when one of the self-checkouts opened up.

Guns should have been drawn to handle this situation. Pew pew.

Yeah, in your world that would make perfect sense. And the old lady would have ended your existence if you pushed it too far and she was armed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You would walk away from someone who threatens you and flashes a gun? That usually gets you DEAD! You are just a coward.

They argued before the gun was pulled, dummy. You are such a hyper, reactionary twerp, sometimes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Simple! and I paraphrase my own words: “You'd have to be a really dickless loser with no personal character or self confidence to trade off insults and slander, allowing it to escalate into a shooting match in the presence of your wife and children.” That trumps anything you have to say.

You don't know what the argument was about, but police interviewed witnesses and determined that the assailant was totally responsible. They left the other man drive himself to the hospital to have his minor wounds treated and he was not arrested. So much for your assumptions.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I can’t believe you respect a “family man” who escalated a verbal altercation into a shooting match with your wife in the store

He did not escalate according to witnesses. Why do you assume that he did?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

19 y/o teen Labron Gibson...let me guess

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We do know that a verbal altercation escalated into a shooting match

No. We know the 19-year-old pulled a gun and threatened him and his family. Eyewitnesses reported that the assailant was totally to blame for the incident and reported as much to the police who didn't even arrest the man for shooting him.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

19 y/o teen Labron Gibson...let me guess

 

[SassyIrishLass]

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I'm absolutely shocked to my very core

 

[j-mac]

What's your point?

Still ... what's your point?

My point is that it is a codified right to carry. And from the Family man's, as well as the LEO's perspective, thank goodness he did.

You know that's not true as well as I do. "would a man with any personal character and who cares for the safety and well-being of his family would voluntarily enter such a confrontation with or without a gun?"

No, I don't know that's not true....Neither of us were there.

Are you being serious right now?

Always.

"Instigator"? Ho-hum. I do not believe that you are mature enough for this discussion.

Yeah, ok....Whatever dude....