Zone1 My Spiritual Evolution

Never give up! That's really God's plan, not your dad's. You were His, decades before you came to know it! Your story brought a few tears to my eyes, how patient God really is with us...including with me! I am forever grateful, for the patience He has shown a wretch like me, and you and so many others!
You know, I choke up every time someone plays Amazing Grace. That song defines me perfectly. "Was blind but now I see."

It's corny as hell it impacts me like that. But what can you do, you know?

I especially like it played on the fife and drum with an orchestra.
 
My wife keeps telling me to write my biography.

Meh.

But she laughs like crazy when I go into the details. Like the time I accidentally set my face on fire with Bacardi 151.

Every time I reveal a small piece, she and the kids go, "That's going in the book!"

I don't take notes, though, so it ain't happening.

I guess this is my beta test.
You should.

That was good readin!
 
Never give up! That's really God's plan, not your dad's. You were His, decades before you came to know it! Your story brought a few tears to my eyes, how patient God really is with us...including with me! I am forever grateful, for the patience He has shown a wretch like me, and you and so many others!
Not only is God patient, he is merciful.

You know that patient thing works in both directions, which I find annoying.

Sometimes God's time can seem like forever while I'm waiting on Him.

A million years might feel like a day to Him, but a bad day sometimes feels like a million years to me.
 
See, this is the best part about the forum!

Pre Obama on the other Board we had meet ups in NYC and it was a hoot to meet people in person. I have met one or two member here since then. Might be fun to have a USMB meet up.

We all made a Spiritual Contract before we came here, ALL OF US.

Each made our unique contract: these are the challenges I want to see if I can overcome to find my way back home to you!

I was Roman Catholic, read the Bible and many of the Torah stories felt as if there should have been footnotes because they didn't make sense -- then I found Kabbalah, or Kabbalah found me. Life is an onion skin of so many layers.

I had a childhood trauma that had me in "therapy" for 2 decades. Ridiculous, but it seemed the most logical fix. In one of the early Kabbalah classes the teacher gave us an assignment: when you were 8 or 9 you had a profound experience that shaped who you are today. Write it out. Once that was done. The Teacher told us, "now instead of the opponent who hurt you or shaped you, change it to The Light and reread it." Mine made no fucking sense even after that and I went up to the teacher after and explained it to her.

She said, "No it's correct. Think of how you are today, how you handle things, it all stems from that incident. That is your Tikkun, your mission. To be aware, acknowledge when you feel URGE to act that you have to take action, then take a moment and ask The Creator for help and guidance" Floored me. 20 years of therapy solved in a 5 minute conversation

I realized that the teacher must have heard a thousand different stories or more of every individual childhood incident, each one as unique as the individual. That helped me realize that my issues weren't anything to carry or be proud of like look at the cross I'm bearing, but they were the obstacles I needed to help me grow and find my way back home

We all have our obstacles and our ways of handling them.

Wish you success in dealing with yours
I'll have to ask my friend who dwells on a higher plane than me about this. Thanks.
 
I doubt ANYONE read your long winded OP. Nobody cares enough to ensure that
 
Shouldn't this be in Creative Writing?
 
I'll have to ask my friend who dwells on a higher plane than me about this. Thanks.
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Lucy is always available...
 
You know, I choke up every time someone plays Amazing Grace. That song defines me perfectly. "Was blind but now I see."

It's corny as hell it impacts me like that. But what can you do, you know?

I especially like it played on the fife and drum with an orchestra.
Oh me too! I am a total wimp when I hear it! My husband's small non denominational church, had a choir second to none, and I heard the song for the first time there...reared Catholic as you, I had never heard the song in church or anywhere, until then! And yes, I choked up and became teary eyed and goose bumpy all in one, and still to this day when heard!!!
 
I doubt ANYONE read your long winded OP. Nobody cares enough to ensure that
I did. Every word. And every post after. Part of the joy of this site is reading about others and their experiences. I recommend giving it another chance when you may have more time.
 
I did. Every word. And every post after. Part of the joy of this site is reading about others and their experiences. I recommend giving it another chance when you may have more time.
If you want to get a message out, keep it short and succinct
 
Oh me too! I am a total wimp when I hear it! My husband's small non denominational church, had a choir second to none, and I heard the song for the first time there...reared Catholic as you, I had never heard the song in church or anywhere, until then! And yes, I choked up and became teary eyed and goose bumpy all in one, and still to this day when heard!!!
The same thing happens to me when the flag goes by in a parade, partly because of my junkie brother but there is more to it than that.

As a child, I would see these old tough as leather men openly start weeping when the flag went by on the Fourth of July. I would ask my mother why they were doing that, and she tried to explain to my toddler self what WWII was about. It was all above my head.

Fast forward, I serve 20+ years seeing the shittiest parts of the world.

I retire from the service. I go to my first Fourth of July parade since my service. The flag goes by.

Tears. And more tears. Streaming down my face. Spontaneous and baffling to me as all get-out. I hope no kids are watching.
 
I have just made a commitment to myself I am going to avoid the news as much as possible for the next few years
It distorts our perception of reality and can be responsible for learning some bad habits that are hard to break. Good luck to you.
 
My spiritual balance has been way out of whack for way too long. I have just made a commitment to myself I am going to avoid the news as much as possible for the next few years, and cut back on my attendance in the Politics and Current Events forums here.

Some people call what I am about to do my Testimony. Whatever.

There are other people who will think what I am about to say is a boatload of horseshit, and that's fine. I totally understand as I have given them good reason to think so.

But stick it out with me if you wish to hear me out. This will necessarily be a long story, but I hope an interesting enough one to keep you engaged.

I am not going to go into the gruesome details, but I was abused in every way possible in my childhood. In some ways which you may never have heard of.

Suffice it to say I spent a significant portion of my childhood in hospital beds.

By the time I was 15 years old, I had come to believe everyone on Earth was put here to fuck with me personally. I thought everyone was a machine, including my brothers whose faces I punched every day and who punched my face every day. We had been reduced to wild animals.

I later learned in my life that thinking problem I had is called paranoid schizophrenia.

I also came to very firmly believe there could not possibly be a God, as He would not have let all this shit happen to me. I became a very angry militant atheist. The really pissed off kind.

So I went into politics as that is a natural fit for paranoid schizophrenics and atheists. I joined an organization founded by the eminent Bill Buckley called Young Americans for Freedom. I met Reagan before he was president, and many other household names.

There I was. 15, 16, 17 years old, making speeches to legislators in their hallowed chambers and halls. I spoke out against the Equal Right Amendment, pissing off a lot of lesbians. (I kid! I kid!)

I spoke in favor of a Right To Work bill. You could not get a job in my state unless you joined a union and that annoyed the hell out me. So when it became obvious to me the Senate committee was bought and owned by the labor unions as indicated by their fawning over unionists and vicious attacks against us Right To Workers, I stood up and made eye contact with the Vice President of the AFL-CIO and gave him the fist.

500 mobsters in three piece suits paid by my dues to be there booed at me. I'll never forget that sound echoing off the walls. Then two thugs followed me out of the room, trying to intimidate me. So I took them on a hike, up and around the Capitol dome as they huffed and puffed and wheezed. My mother was terrified for me. I was laughing my ass off.

We got threatening phone calls for months afterward. How sad is it the mob felt the need to intimidate a 17 year old when they had already won the war?

Anyway.

My younger brother decided the best way to escape our situation was to enter the service. I followed soon after, and then my older brother joined up right after that.

We had a pact with each other despite our mutual hatred of each other. We had a much younger brother and we all vowed that if our parents did even a fraction of what they did to us to him, we would kill them

I explain to people all the time that a lot of veterans come to the service already pre-traumatized, and are trying to get away from their own personal horrors.

But it was too late for my older brother. He was an intravenous drug addict by then, got in a lot of fights in the service, and was dishonorably discharged. He died a few years later as one of the early victims of AIDS.

My other veteran brother now lives on a mountaintop in New Hampshire as he was forced out of the workplace for being a danger to others. He is heavily medicated by the VA and lives contentedly raising chicken and marijuana plants. He does not partake of the pot as that would mess with his medications. He grows it to give to his elderly neighbors for their various old people ailments.

This is a guy I used to beat this shit out of. Now we are as close as two brothers can be. We are surivors.

Some of you will be happy to know he is a huge Trump fan. Before his wife dragged him to the VA to get help, he was more than ready to start shooting homos and Mexicans if Trump lost the 2016 election.

Thank God Trump won, I guess?

My family was dirt poor. A few years ago, I searched for my childhood home. When I found it, I was traumatized all over again at its tiny size. I could not believe that many of us had lived there, and all the horrors came rushing back.

Despite my parents' flaws, they made sure all us boys attended private Catholic schools. I have no idea how they pulled that off. But I well remember it meant eating a lot of hot dogs, drinking nothing but powdered milk, and so forth. You get the picture.

It also meant the financial strain of our education only increased the stress level which rolled downhill onto us.

Nonetheless, every bit of my success in life is due to that education.

Another thing my dad did is he lectured me for hours, days, months, years about the Irish-never-quit thing. Pounded that shit right into me.

That turned out to serve me incredibly well in the service, let me tell you. When I saw other guys whining and crying and failing in boot camp, I was amazed. Boot camp was a cake walk to me!

Damn right never quit. No matter what shitstorm you find yourself in.

So God bless my parents, I guess?

As a result of my Catholic education at the hands of some seriously sadistic nuns, I left home with a strong moral code despite being a rabid atheist.

Here's a thing.

The nuns teach you about mortal sins and venial sins. If you violate one of the Ten Commandments, that's a mortal sin and you are going to hell. If you violate one of the thousands of venial sins, the confessor priest checks his spreadsheet and tells you how many Hail Mary's and Our Fathers you have to say to wipe your slate clean.

So like I said. I left home with a powerful moral code.

Which I immediately set about violating at every opportunity. It was a rebellion against the straightjacket I had been in my whole life.

Here's another thing.

If you violate one of the Ten Commandments, you're going to hell. So what difference does it matter if you do it one hundred times, right?

Atheist Logic, baby!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!


Here's another thing which was behind my rejection of my moral code.

Because of all the abuse, my filters were all fucked up. They were clogged.

Our parents took us to mass every Sunday. And they read a piece of the Old Testament, then a piece of the New Testament. If you go seven days a week for a year, like some of the old biddies do, you've heard the whole bible.

But as mere Sunday worshippers, we only heard 52 pieces of it. You were supposed to make up the difference in catechism, which we did for a while.

Anyway. My filters.

The only stuff which made it through my filters were the parts where God was smiting and nuking people for being sinners.

i did not hear a word of love or forgiveness. I know for a fact that stuff was read to us. I've read the Bible since my conversion, and it was an entirely different book. My filters were unclogged. But at the time, I didn't hear a word of any of the New Testament.

Weird, right?

God was a real bastard from my point of view. He sets us up to fail and then sends us to hell. That was my view.

God can kiss my ass, I decided.

Here's another thing.

How can you hate Someone you don't believe exists? That snake swallowed its own tail for decades of my life.

At some point, you start desperately hoping there really is no God since you are such a fuckup. He is sending you to hell for sure!

Forever.

A little side track for a second.

After my older brother died from AIDS, my parents took responsibility and repented. They even went so far as to open two halfway houses and took in convicts and such. The named their charity Agape, which is a Greek word for unconditional love.

It took me quite a few years beyond that, though, to finally forgive them.

Let me tell you. Being a forgiving person is the very highest state of being a human can achieve.

It's a real bitch getting there. A real motherfucking bitch.

For a long time, I was obsessed with murdering my parents.

A real motherfucking bitch getting there, folks. And it was only due to my conversion, which I promise I am getting to in the next few thousand words.

After the reconciliation decades later, I asked my very Catholic dad what he thought hell was. He was so Catholic, he quite the corporate world and went to work for a Catholic mission. Who better to ask, right?

Don't say a priest. I'll explain later.

I'm expecting my dad to talk about lakes of fire and demons with pitchforks and all that shit you see in those terrifying religious paintings.

No.

He says hell is, "Eternal separation from God."

Whoa.

Whoa...



I still get chills. Because I have been in hell for most of my life. And it wasn't the abuse which put me there, though I could be forgiven for thinking so.

I put myself in hell. I told God to kiss my ass and turned my back on Him.


Here's another thing.

When you are crazy pissed off and an atheist, you acquire what is known as a Confirmation Bias. It's a kind of logical fallacy.

Let me tell you, when you serve in the military for over 20 years like I did, you are provided limitless evidence to feed that bias.

You are sent to places where you see all the worst things human beings do to each other. Yep, for sure there's no God.

I wasn't satisfied with all this evidence, though. I needed more.

Wherever I went on this planet, I would seek out the local holy men and interrogate them. I would engage them in angry debate and challenge their beliefs.

When I look back now at the nerve I had doing that, I feel deeply ashamed.

If I grilled a priest, and I did many, I had one question which my filters had been unable to process. I would ask the priest du jour, "What does Jesus died for our sins mean?"

I honestly did not get it.

There is no doubt every one of them answered the question straightforwardly. But there's a bit in the Old Testament about Egypt's Pharoah's heart being hardened which made it literally impossible for him to heed Moses and, by extension, God. So God had to really fuck the Pharoah up the ass until he got the point.

That was me. Mr. Hardened Heart. I literally could not understand those priests, I was so far gone down the atheist rabbit hole.

Eternal separation from God. My inability to understand priests is why I went to my dad to find out if I was going to hell and finding out I had been there for a while already.

I won't go into all the gruesome details of my lifestyle while I was in the void. I'll just jump ahead to my conversion process now. There are three phases to my spiritual evolution which means you have about 38 thousand more words to read.

Take a break. I'll wait here.
All I can tell you is that the Christian view is that life is unfair and we should expect to make sacrifices. Done properly it leads to peace through the storm. The best way to accomplish this is to die to self. Having no preference for an outcome. The only preference is to see reality as it is. It's incredibly powerful and in my mind the only real way to know God, have a relationship with God and find peace in an unfair world. Only then will you discover that good comes from bad.
 
Phase Two.

Due to the nature of some of the operations I was involved in, this will be scant on details which do not involve Phase II directly.

We're in Bosnia-Herzogobobblewhatsis. We're warriors. These Nazi fucks need killing. I'm totally on board with the program.

An aside. After a particular day which was far more grueling than any of us expected, I entered the debriefing room and muttered, "Why, oh why, didn't I take the blue pill?" This gets me on the scoreboard.

Back to the show. Like out of a Hollywood movie, we get a message one midnight to proceed directly to Kuwait.

Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

We're stoked. I'm talking AAA-grade bloodlust. We're on our way, You can feel the musculature bulking up all around you. I'm not kidding when I say you can actually smell all this.

Then God fucks me up.

I had a really stupid, corny arrangement with the Queen of the Crazies. Before I deployed, she asked me to go outside every night at 9 pm, Eastern Standard Time, and look at the moon. I'd be looking at the moon, she'd be looking at the moon. At the same time.

When I wasn't being a total judgmental asshole, I was a total sucker for romantic clownery when asked by my Queen.

Being in Bosnia and then the Persian Gulf meant 9 pm Eastern Time was What-The-Fuck-Are-You-Doing-Up-At-This-Hour-You-Blooming-Idiot time for me.

But I did it. I was totally owned by the Queen of the Crazies.

This one evening in the Gulf, I'm looking at the moon at 5 am, I think it was. Not too early. Normal wakeup time.

I'm visualizing my Queen also looking at the moon, but she's fucking crazy. How do I know she's really back there looking at it?

Sucker-r-r-r-r!

But in my mind's eye, I see her looking at the moon, thinking about me.

"If you can't trust the Queen of the Crazies, who can you trust?", my penis asks.

Then, out of nowhere, I see a vision of an Iraqi soldier looking at the moon wherever he is out there in the desert.

I brush that vision away. That's OUR moon, asshole!

Then he comes back. He's looking at the moon, thinking about his wife and kids. He knows we're coming to kill him, and he knows he can't do fuck-all about it.


Here's the thing.

In dictatorships like Saddam Hussein's which have oil, they are what is known as a technocracy. The oil money doesn't trickle down. It goes toward phantasmagorical palaces. Plural.

It goes to hookers and blow for the inner circle of flunkies, Hussein's serial killer sons, and court jesters.

None of it trickles down to the starving masses. And I mean they are STARVING.

So what is a hungry family man to do as he hears his children's bellies growling?

What he does is join up with another great expenditure of Hussein's. He joins the Iraqi Army so as to put food on the table.

This is why so many thousands of Iraqi soldiers surrendered in droves. Some even surrendered to reporters. Because they didn't sign up for invasions and counter-invasions and unavoidable death at our hands and all that shit. They signed up for FOOD.

This motherfucking Iraqi comes back into my moon vision. I'm starting to get a little testy about it.

Then God makes a serious dick move with His metaphysical switchboard, and He connects me to every human being on Earth.

At the same time.

I become so discombobulated, it being way more than my puny brain could handle, that it takes me a long time to grasp the incredible gift I've just been given.

Way back in private Catholic school, we used to sing a song that said somewhere in there. "God is looooooooove." You sing that line like three times in a row, right?

And we hear a lot of talk about this Trinity thing and that one of it's parts is the Holy Spirit. Some people say Holy Ghost, but I can tell you right now that is not right.

Another thing they tell you is "God is everywhere", which is a terrifying thought when you are doing something degenerate, as I frequently did.

Well, what God tapped me into that night was his Holy Spirit. He showed me He really is everywhere. Connecting us all together.

And just like that, my warrior persona vanished. Kicked right over the fucking moon.

BAD TIMING, LORD! JESUS H. CHRIST!


The next few days were really, really hard for me. Because I HAD signed up for this shit, only it wasn't fun any more.
 
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All I can tell you is that the Christian view is that life is unfair and we should expect to make sacrifices. Done properly it leads to peace through the storm. The best way to accomplish this is to die to self. Having no preference for an outcome. The only preference is to see reality as it is. It's incredibly powerful and in my mind the only real way to know God, have a relationship with God and find peace in an unfair world. Only then will you discover that good comes from bad.
I think you would like The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. He was a rock star at Young Americans for Freedom conferences.

It's a massive three-volume work but it aligns with what you just said.

And, of course, Man's Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl, if you haven't already read it.
 
It makes me happy to hear that your spiritual evolution is in an upward direction.
 
I think you would like The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. He was a rock star at Young Americans for Freedom conferences.

It's a massive three-volume work but it aligns with what you just said.

And, of course, Man's Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl, if you haven't already read it.
Both excellent recommendations. Solzhenitsyn's Harvard Address is a must read.
 
If you violate one of the Ten Commandments, you're going to hell. So what difference does it matter if you do it one hundred times, right?

Atheist Logic, baby!
No, atheist logic would be:

The ten commandments are a farce invented by illiterate, primitive dumbasses. "Sin" is a childish, magical concept, and there is no hell. It's time we grew up as a species an put away these childish toys.

And no, it doesn't matter if you covet your neighbor's livestock 100 times. Thought crimes are not crimes, and the gross, immoral God Daddy who would prosecute these thought crimes is a figment of the imagination of the very limited human mind.
 
The ten commandments are a farce invented by illiterate, primitive dumbasses.
Isn't truth discovered? Don't standards exist for logical reasons?

And I doubt anyone of importance would characterize the people who significantly raised standards relative to their contemporaries which still challenge man to this day as primitive dumbasses. There is no other parallel in mankind that comes close. Would you call the author of the Iliad a primitive dumbass?

That such a disproportionately small number of people could survive against all odds for so long and make so many massive contributions to mankind is in and of itself a miracle.
 

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