My son may have ADHD

[Mr. H.]

Most sufferers of Schizophrenia can't make rational decisions. Certainly not when they are off their meds.
I've acted as my younger brother's court-appointed guardian for the past 20 years. He's been doing great these last few years but oh man has he had his moments.

once someone has taken anti-psychotics its a almost sure bet they will go nuts on a sudden withdraw..then this perpetuates the belief the medications are required and without them the person would be in psychosis. going off medications should be done slowly under a doctors care

I don't think weaning a bi-polar from meds would result in behavior any different from going cold turky. Or cold turducken either.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

I had a meeting with my son's teacher's and school psychologist, and they recommended I take him to a pediatrician that specializes in ADHD etc to be tested for ADHD. Many of you have might already know I have had my son in special programs since before he was two, and that they had diagnosed him with a sensory perception disorder when all this first started.

II have read some on it, but not a lot. The whole thing is scary at this point, for one I have no clue how I feel about medication, how to treat it, and even the diagnoses of ADHD. Feedback, recommendations, stories would be great. Thanks.

I would get a 2nd opinion.

THey hand out adderal and similar drugs like candy these days.

My brother was on it through high school and college and into the workforce. The doctor kept upping his dosage until he was at the maximum legally allowed dose. For at least the last several years he was prescribed it, the doctor did nothing to reassess my brother, to determine if he still "needed" the drug - he just kept upping his dose and their once a month "sessions" involved just shooting the shit.

My brother eventually went psychotic. He believed the NYPD were conspiring to frame him for murder. He got off the adderal for a while, his "doctor" dropped him. His paranoid delusions persist to this day, and he's back on the drug through a different doctor, albeit a smaller dosage.

I would be extremely cautious about putting your child on these kinds of drugs. It could set him up for a life time addiction disorder. There may be negative consequences on his GPA in the short term, but long term if he stays on the drug permanently that is very bad and if he has to get off it at some point that is extremely difficult and will be disruptive to his life.


I heard on an NPR show this morning what the rationale a lot of college kids use to take adderal - college is hard, they just need the drug for college, and when they get into the "real world" where life is easier, they won't need it. Life easier in the "real world" - imagine that!!!!!

 

[eots]

Most sufferers of Schizophrenia can't make rational decisions. Certainly not when they are off their meds.
I've acted as my younger brother's court-appointed guardian for the past 20 years. He's been doing great these last few years but oh man has he had his moments.

once someone has taken anti-psychotics its a almost sure bet they will go nuts on a sudden withdraw..then this perpetuates the belief the medications are required and without them the person would be in psychosis. going off medications should be done slowly under a doctors care

I don't think weaning a bi-polar from meds would result in behavior any different from going cold turky. Or cold turducken either.

these drugs have powerful effects on brain chemistry
sudden withdraw will with out question cause Dopamine, serotonin, and histamine receptors found in the brain to over stimulate, causing nausea and vomiting., dopamine and serotonin also effect the brainstem When neurotransmitters are withdrawn from these regions discontinuation syndrome occurs with serious adverse events such as dizziness, lightheadedness, nausea, tremors, insomnia, sedation, electric shock-like pains,delusions and anxiety

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Xb29geVwE]Peter Breggin MD: How Do Psychiatric Drugs Really Work? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

Is Abilify right for you ?...soundtrack The eots

 

[Liability]

lol...what a silly man he thinks if he simply says false he has.. refuted your claims

^ what a stupid ****. He thinks if he labels his ignorant vapid opinion as "fact" that it somehow becomes a fact.

its pretty clear for anyone reading this thread that this post represents your level of debate which is nothing more than personal insults without a single factual reference or link

It remains crystal clear that you are nothing more than an id-eot who mistakes your YouTube based opinions for "facts."

 

[Soulless65]

Single parents and lazy teachers, who think all boys from preschool on up should act like 13 year old girls. That's the long and short of it.

My mom was one of those.....Thus why i was on Ritalin for so long....I stopped taking it my self. I learned to control myself .....I think given time 98% of the kids on that shit could be taught to control themselves..... Being doped up like that is no way for a kid to live....I know this personally. I also have personally seen the pain on parents when these drugs kill a child and dammit they do kill them. These drugs are damn dangerous. They are damn dangerous in prescribed dosages.

The problem is they work....They do what they say they will ... They will make a boy stay still....Of course he feels completely like a zombie and cant control anything.....They dont even have any genuine spontaneity...You have no desire to do much of anything....You dont even want to eat..... Play ball????? Naw dont want to exert your self..... Run around? No not feeling it.... Think independently????? Naw rather just do as I am told....

Thats what they dont tell you.You are very malleable when doped up like this.

My parents put me on Ritalin back when I was in the 4th grade saw what it did do me and at the start of my 6th grade year I was ween off of it. Have to say it was a bumpy ride for awhile but I learned how to focus

And yeah Etos is right that we over medicate the young people in this country but I do't think you can throw out the baby with the bathwater that there are in some cases like in depression and anxiety and etc that need medication but that's what I think could be wrong

 

[Samson]

Most sufferers of Schizophrenia can't make rational decisions. Certainly not when they are off their meds.
I've acted as my younger brother's court-appointed guardian for the past 20 years. He's been doing great these last few years but oh man has he had his moments.

once someone has taken anti-psychotics its a almost sure bet they will go nuts on a sudden withdraw..then this perpetuates the belief the medications are required and without them the person would be in psychosis. going off medications should be done slowly under a doctors care

I don't think weaning a bi-polar from meds would result in behavior any different from going cold turky. Or cold turducken either.

Turducken suffers from multiple personality disorder....another diagnosed mental problem that doesn't have "verifiable medical tests" applicable for identifying symptoms.

Obviously we need a Turducken video to understand.

 

[Samson]

^ what a stupid ****. He thinks if he labels his ignorant vapid opinion as "fact" that it somehow becomes a fact.

its pretty clear for anyone reading this thread that this post represents your level of debate which is nothing more than personal insults without a single factual reference or link

It remains crystal clear that you are nothing more than an id-eot who mistakes your YouTube based opinions for "facts."

Youtubes are the tool's tool for burying moronic posts born from an occasional misfiring neuron that passes for eot's brain activity.

 

[eots]

blah blah,blah,blah ??..so are there any of these facts you wish to question or are you just going to name call and build your youtube strawmen

 

[eots]

^ what a stupid ****. He thinks if he labels his ignorant vapid opinion as "fact" that it somehow becomes a fact.

its pretty clear for anyone reading this thread that this post represents your level of debate which is nothing more than personal insults without a single factual reference or link

it remains crystal clear that you are nothing more than an id-eot who mistakes your youtube based opinions for "facts."

many of the youtube videos posted have been from large mainstream news sources and from american psychiatric board meetings ..as well as from congress ..all you do, is what you do in this post.. Display your ignorance and the weakness of your position

 

[eots]

once someone has taken anti-psychotics its a almost sure bet they will go nuts on a sudden withdraw..then this perpetuates the belief the medications are required and without them the person would be in psychosis. Going off medications should be done slowly under a doctors care

i don't think weaning a bi-polar from meds would result in behavior any different from going cold turky. Or cold turducken either.

turducken suffers from multiple personality disorder....another diagnosed mental problem that doesn't have "verifiable medical tests" applicable for identifying symptoms.

Obviously we need a turducken video to understand.

personality disorders are not claimed to be a medical illness so why would they have a medical test ?


Multiple Personality Disorder is commonly caused by trauma or abuse in the early years of ones life (I.e. rape,abuse

 

[eots]

Treatment for most personality disorders usually involves a course of psychological therapy. This normally lasts at least six months, often longer, depending on the severity of the condition and other co-existing problems.
Personality disorder - Treatment - NHS Choices

 

[Samson]

I had a meeting with my son's teacher's and school psychologist, and they recommended I take him to a pediatrician that specializes in ADHD etc to be tested for ADHD. Many of you have might already know I have had my son in special programs since before he was two, and that they had diagnosed him with a sensory perception disorder when all this first started.

II have read some on it, but not a lot. The whole thing is scary at this point, for one I have no clue how I feel about medication, how to treat it, and even the diagnoses of ADHD. Feedback, recommendations, stories would be great. Thanks.

With your son in special programs since before he was two, .....with a sensory perception disorder I would be surprised you're not already accessing all the appropriate medical and social resources available.

At any rate, it doesn't sound like the run-of-the-mill ADHD. I would contact those associated with the sensory perception disorder diagnosis, and have them refer you to a specialist if necessary. They will be able to pass on the valuable information they have regarding the disorder he already has, and how it (and any meds he may be on already) may be effecting ADHD symptoms.


Now, for the run-of-the-mill cases, I have two comments:

1. ADHD is over-diagnosed by females in an increasingly feminized society: Boys to not act like Girls, and sitting in classes for long periods of time during which they are inactive is often very difficult for boys because they are MALES. Put the kid on a treadmill.

2. Medication administered to children over a period of years must be re-evaluated, particularly as the child enters puberty. ADHD perscriptions that worked perfectly well when the child is 10, might cause some weird shit when they are 13.

 

[koshergrl]

Most sufferers of Schizophrenia can't make rational decisions. Certainly not when they are off their meds.
I've acted as my younger brother's court-appointed guardian for the past 20 years. He's been doing great these last few years but oh man has he had his moments.

once someone has taken anti-psychotics its a almost sure bet they will go nuts on a sudden withdraw..then this perpetuates the belief the medications are required and without them the person would be in psychosis. going off medications should be done slowly under a doctors care

I don't think weaning a bi-polar from meds would result in behavior any different from going cold turky. Or cold turducken either.

So they could potentially have seizures, a psychotic break, or die.

 

[Annie]

I think it's interesting that those that have driven off any discussion of the possible help that meds may give to a child are the same folks that continue to perpetuate the discredited 'science' of the ills of vaccinations is scary indeed.

 

[eots]

I had a meeting with my son's teacher's and school psychologist, and they recommended I take him to a pediatrician that specializes in ADHD etc to be tested for ADHD. Many of you have might already know I have had my son in special programs since before he was two, and that they had diagnosed him with a sensory perception disorder when all this first started.

II have read some on it, but not a lot. The whole thing is scary at this point, for one I have no clue how I feel about medication, how to treat it, and even the diagnoses of ADHD. Feedback, recommendations, stories would be great. Thanks.

With your son in special programs since before he was two, .....with a sensory perception disorder I would be surprised you're not already accessing all the appropriate medical and social resources available.

At any rate, it doesn't sound like the run-of-the-mill ADHD

run of the mill ADHD ?? could you elaborate on how you determined it was not run of the mill ADHD ? you would not happen to have a credible link or youtube video discussing run of the mill ADHD.would you ?

I would contact those associated with the sensory perception disorder diagnosis, and have them refer you to a specialist if necessary. They will be able to pass on the valuable information they have regarding the disorder he already has, and how it (and any meds he may be on already) may be effecting ADHD symptoms.

Now, for the run-of-the-mill cases, I have two comments:

1. ADHD is over-diagnosed by females in an increasingly feminized society: Boys to not act like Girls, and sitting in classes for long periods of time during which they are inactive is often very difficult for boys because they are MALES. Put the kid on a treadmill.

so is run of the mill ADHD also a medical brain disorder ?
and are you saying that most psychiatrist are female ? or are you saying female teachers are making the diagnosis and psychiatrist rubber stamping them based on the teachers subjective observations ?

2. Medication administered to children over a period of years must be re-evaluated, particularly as the child enters puberty. ADHD perscriptions that worked perfectly well when the child is 10, might cause some weird shit when they are 13

or 11 or 12 even sudden death..suicide ...murder..and it will with out question show medically verifiable shrinkage of the frontal lobe after prolonged use

 

[eots]

I think it's interesting that those that have driven off any discussion of the possible help that meds may give to a child are the same folks that continue to perpetuate the discredited 'science' of the ills of vaccinations is scary indeed.

red herrings now ?.vaccinations is another subject

 

[eots]

great little documentary..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8k0iw1Kon4]Louis Theroux Documentary. America's Medicated Kids- Full Movie - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

The Next Attention Deficit Disorder?

SPD research so far is provocative but limited. "It's hard to get grants for a disorder that doesn't exist," laments Miller, whose recent book, Sensational Kids, offers a guide to both research and treatment. Many studies are flawed by vague criteria for identifying the condition, samples that include kids with other disorders, and an utter lack of standardized treatment.
The Next Attention Deficit Disorder? - TIME
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