My son may have ADHD

[Liability]

"MAY" and 'MOST LIKELY".

And?

 

[koshergrl]

It's a guess. By the person who wrote the article.

 

[Liability]

It's a guess. By the person who wrote the article.

No it's not just a "guess."

It is a tentative conclusion. It may even qualify as a working hypothesis based on data, observation, logic.

The data shows a possible (maybe even likely) connection.

 

[High_Gravity]

My ex girlfriends son had ADHD, he was disruptive in class, hyper active, would get anxious in certain situations and just could not pay attention. So if ADHD doesn't exist, her son was perfectly normal? boys are supposed to act like this?

 

[Liability]

My ex girlfriends son had ADHD, he was disruptive in class, hyper active, would get anxious in certain situations and just could not pay attention. So if ADHD doesn't exist, her son was perfectly normal? boys are supposed to act like this?

That's the thrust of id-eot's "thesis:"

It's not ADD or ADHD. It's all just "boys will be boys."

 

[High_Gravity]

My ex girlfriends son had ADHD, he was disruptive in class, hyper active, would get anxious in certain situations and just could not pay attention. So if ADHD doesn't exist, her son was perfectly normal? boys are supposed to act like this?

That's the thrust of id-eot's "thesis:"

It's not ADD or ADHD. It's all just "boys will be boys."

Some people told my ex that, he's just being a boy. If all boys are disruptive, anxious, cry at awkward moments, cannot remember what you told them 5 seconds ago and just troubled, we are all fucked. Wait until those boys become men.

 

[Liability]

My ex girlfriends son had ADHD, he was disruptive in class, hyper active, would get anxious in certain situations and just could not pay attention. So if ADHD doesn't exist, her son was perfectly normal? boys are supposed to act like this?

That's the thrust of id-eot's "thesis:"

It's not ADD or ADHD. It's all just "boys will be boys."

Some people told my ex that, he's just being a boy. If all boys are disruptive, anxious, cry at awkward moments, cannot remember what you told them 5 seconds ago and just troubled, we are all fucked. Wait until those boys become men.

It's troubling.

I wonder how many kids in the past suffered with some form or variant of ADD or ADHD and were simply dismissed as badly behaved kids or miscreants or knuckleheads?

ON THE OTHER HAND, if one reads between the lines, a PART of what koshergrl and id-eots may be trying to say is that the diagnosis can be invalid.

It MIGHT be that the "diagnosis" is made too freely these days. And it is even possible that sometimes it is just a matter of "convenience" in order to prescribe drugs to serve as chemical babysitters.

But even so, to deny that there are ANY actual, real, genuine and legitimate cases of ADD/ADHD is just mindless. Coming from koshergrl, it's a bit surprising. Coming from a perpetual conspiracy nut-job like id-eots, it is just standard.

 

[koshergrl]

My ex girlfriends son had ADHD, he was disruptive in class, hyper active, would get anxious in certain situations and just could not pay attention. So if ADHD doesn't exist, her son was perfectly normal? boys are supposed to act like this?

That's the thrust of id-eot's "thesis:"

It's not ADD or ADHD. It's all just "boys will be boys."

Some people told my ex that, he's just being a boy. If all boys are disruptive, anxious, cry at awkward moments, cannot remember what you told them 5 seconds ago and just troubled, we are all fucked. Wait until those boys become men.

How odd that most of these boys come from homes in which there isn't a solid male influence.

Oh well. Just medicate them. That'll fix it.

 

[High_Gravity]

That's the thrust of id-eot's "thesis:"

It's not ADD or ADHD. It's all just "boys will be boys."

Some people told my ex that, he's just being a boy. If all boys are disruptive, anxious, cry at awkward moments, cannot remember what you told them 5 seconds ago and just troubled, we are all fucked. Wait until those boys become men.

How odd that most of these boys come from homes in which there isn't a solid male influence.

Oh well. Just medicate them. That'll fix it.

Hmm, good point KG.

 

[Liability]

Some people told my ex that, he's just being a boy. If all boys are disruptive, anxious, cry at awkward moments, cannot remember what you told them 5 seconds ago and just troubled, we are all fucked. Wait until those boys become men.

How odd that most of these boys come from homes in which there isn't a solid male influence.

Oh well. Just medicate them. That'll fix it.

Hmm, good point KG.

No it's not, actually.

What support exists for the claim that "most" of the boys come from homes without a solid male influence?

 

[High_Gravity]

How odd that most of these boys come from homes in which there isn't a solid male influence.

Oh well. Just medicate them. That'll fix it.

Hmm, good point KG.

No it's not, actually.

What support exists for the claim that "most" of the boys come from homes without a solid male influence?

Well in the case of my ex girlfriends son it was true, the father pretty much abandoned them when the kid was born, and he himself has a history of ADHD, dyslexia and chronic drug use, meth in particular. Boy looks just like the father too, to a t.

 

[Liability]

Hmm, good point KG.

No it's not, actually.

What support exists for the claim that "most" of the boys come from homes without a solid male influence?

Well in the case of my ex girlfriends son it was true, the father pretty much abandoned them when the kid was born, and he himself has a history of ADHD, dyslexia and chronic drug use, meth in particular. Boy looks just like the father too, to a t.

That's anecdotal evidence that some boys with ADD/ADHD have a fatherless home.

But I don't see any support for the contention that the majority of boys diagnosed with ADD/ADHD come from homes lacking in a male influence.

 

[gxnelson]

It could be a lot of things.

It's a combination, I think, of a variety of things..genetics, environment, diet, and parenting.

I am in strong favor of genetics.
Environment: The place where I grew up was overly environmentaly friendly it seemed. Also, home life, I wasn't exposed to anything particularly dangerous.
Diet: I have always eaten healthy. I eat a lot of sweets, but a lot of people with ADHD do, I forget the reasoning, but take it or leave it, it's true.
Parenting: My mother was a god send. She put up with a lot of my BS when I was a teenager. She was very patient, but also didn't allow things like video games or tons of TV, which many people say "cause" ADHD.
Genetics: I was adopted, so my parents may have had it but I'll never know. That's the reason I am in strong favor of genetics.

 

[eots]

A Penn State Medical Center "ADAM" discussion provides more information which disputes the "ASSurances" of id-eots.

Causes
Brain Structure

Research using advanced imaging techniques shows there is a difference in the size of certain parts of the brain in children with ADHD compared to children who do not have ADHD. The areas showing change include the prefrontal cortex, the caudate nucleus and globus pallidus, and the cerebellum.
Brain Chemicals

Abnormal activity of certain brain chemicals in the prefrontal cortex may contribute to ADHD. The chemicals dopamine and norepinephrine are of special interest. Dopamine and norepinephrine are neurotransmitters (chemical messengers in the brain) that affect both mental and emotional functioning. They also play a role in the "reward response." This response occurs when a person experiences pleasure in response to certain stimuli (such as food or love). Studies suggest that increased levels of the brain chemicals glutamate, glutamine, and GABA -- collectively called Glx -- interact with the pathways that transport dopamine and norepinephrine.
Genetic Factors

Genetic factors most likely play a role in ADHD. The relatives of ADHD children (both boys and girls) have much higher rates of ADHD, antisocial, mood, anxiety, and substance abuse disorders than the families of non-ADHD children. Some twin studies report that up to 90% of children with a diagnosis of ADHD shared it with their twin.

Most of the research on the underlying genetic mechanisms targets the neurotransmitter dopamine. Variations in genes that regulate specific dopamine receptors have been identified in a high proportion of people with addictions and ADHD.

EXCERPTED from: Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder - Penn State Hershey Medical Center

The researchers stressed that there is no single gene behind ADHD, and the work is at too early a stage to lead to any test for the disorder.

 

[High_Gravity]

No it's not, actually.

What support exists for the claim that "most" of the boys come from homes without a solid male influence?

Well in the case of my ex girlfriends son it was true, the father pretty much abandoned them when the kid was born, and he himself has a history of ADHD, dyslexia and chronic drug use, meth in particular. Boy looks just like the father too, to a t.

That's anecdotal evidence that some boys with ADD/ADHD have a fatherless home.

But I don't see any support for the contention that the majority of boys diagnosed with ADD/ADHD come from homes lacking in a male influence.

I guess DHS/Child support services would have that info? although this is difficult stuff to come by, alot of people don't even acknowledge their kids have issues to begin with.

 

[eots]

not to mention all kinds of personality traits and physical traits can be genetic this in no way qualifies them as a disorder or disease any more than having blues eyes ..it is a subjective and cultural judgement

 

[eots]

Three years ago, Mirko and Regina Ceska of Crawfordville, Florida, told former Gov. Charlie Crist their two adopted 12-year-olds had been prescribed 11 pills a day, including the powerful antipsychotic Seroquel, reported the Tampa Bay Times.
“These girls were overdosed and would fall asleep right in front of us several times a day,” Mirko Ceska told Crist at an “Explore Adoption Day’’ event. “It seems to be a prerequisite for foster children to be on medication,” said Ceska, calling the pills “chemical restraint.”
The couple’s remarks came on the heels of the suicide of Gabriel Myers, a 7-year-old in Florida foster care who was prescribed psychiatric drugs, including Symbyax, not approved for children because of links to suicidal thinking. More than 15 percent of 20,000 foster care children in Florida are medicated, says the Times and doctors and case managers treating medicated 6- and 7-year-olds “routinely failed to complete legally required treatment plans, share information or properly document the prescribing of powerful psychiatric drugs.”

Shocking Reports of Overmedicated Foster Children Force Government Review

 

[Liability]

id-eots conflates the facts that (a) sometimes kids get over-prescribed meds and (b) even get prescribed meds for the wrong reason WITH the notion that there is no such thing as ADD or ADHD.

id-eots is a simpleton. No. He's an id-eot.

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzvIq8WISUo]Don't Drug Them First - Children, ADHD & Drugs - Dr. Rapp - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

id-eots conflates the facts that (a) sometimes kids get over-prescribed meds and (b) even get prescribed meds for the wrong reason WITH the notion that there is no such thing as ADD or ADHD.

id-eots is a simpleton. No. He's and id-eot.

the facts are liarability is there is no proof of an illness called ADHD..it is completely based on the subjective judgement of rather vague behavior
such as

A child with ADHD might:

have a hard time paying attention
daydream a lot
not seem to listen
be easily distracted from schoolwork or play
forget things
be in constant motion or unable to stay seated
squirm or fidget
talk too much
not be able to play quietly
act and speak without thinking
have trouble taking turns
interrupt others

CDC - ADHD, Facts - NCBDDD


The fact is that drug companies have on many occasions been found criminal responsible for falsifying studies and with holding harmful effects of drugs and promoting there use in children and have paid billions in damages