'My son is not very optimal - he is very dead':

[Clementine]

If I had an Ambassador to Libya, he'd look like Chris Stevens

I feel so bad for the families, especially knowing that it could have been prevented. It just did not have to happen. It's one thing to be truly blind-sided, but another to have the writing on the wall go unread. The families deserve better and the people had a right to know that terrorists attacked us yet again. al Qaeda is still functioning way too well and spinning won't make them disappear.

Now the debate is whether Obama actually used the word terrorists. He didn't. An act of terror on the part of protesters has a completely different meaning. I suppose anyone can lose control and commit an act of terror, but in this case we are talking about real terrorists. Terrorists live to cause violence and kill. They are not protesters.

It's not like people are straining their brains trying to recall a single statement over a month ago. We have no trouble remembering the stance the administration took because we heard it over and over for nearly a month. Most statements from the WH centered around the video and that was condemned far more than the 'act of terror.' Never were the terms 'terrorists' , 'planned attack' or 'al Qaeda' used. Big difference, even if we concede that Obama used the word terror. That word alone doesn't begin to describe this. And when the focus of the WH and many in the media was on protesters reacting to a video, it paints a much different picture than a planned al Qaeda attack on the 9/11 anniversary.

I am not splitting hairs here. We have two completely different scenarios. Unfortunately, we were given the wrong one repeatedly.

The question that has yet to be answered, and maybe never will be, is where the story about the protesters and the video came from. The State Dept. already stated they had never concluded that. The administration put that story forth. Now they say there is more investigating that needs to be done. Why would they go to the media with the protester story when the investigation had yet to reveal the details? That story was clearly invented and we have a right to know why.

We can't drop this just because Obama may have used the word terror and Hillary took responsibility for the security issues. Of course, now the buck has been passed yet again to a British Security firm. Where it will stop, no one knows.

But, after the security fail and before the facts showed that it was a planned al Qaeda attack, there were weeks of a false story being repeated constantly. That is where an explanation is needed. I believe there is an attempt to sweep that under the rug and I hope people don't let them get away with that.

 

[Listening]

SALT LAKE TRIBUNE ENDORSES OBAMA!!!!!!


Too many Mitts

Obama has earned another term


Nowhere has Mitt Romney’s pursuit of the presidency been more warmly welcomed or closely followed than here in Utah. The Republican nominee’s political and religious pedigrees, his adeptly bipartisan governorship of a Democratic state, and his head for business and the bottom line all inspire admiration and hope in our largely Mormon, Republican, business-friendly state.

But it was Romney’s singular role in rescuing Utah’s organization of the 2002 Olympics from a cesspool of scandal, and his oversight of the most successful Winter Games on record, that make him the Beehive State’s favorite adopted son. After all, Romney managed to save the state from ignominy, turning the extravaganza into a showcase for the matchless landscapes, volunteerism and efficiency that told the world what is best and most beautiful about Utah and its people.

In short, this is the Mitt Romney we knew, or thought we knew, as one of us.

*snip*

MediaNews Group endorsed Obama...PS they own the Salt Lake Tribune.

WOW a liberal media group endorses the ...GASP liberal candidate!

Salt Lake, sweetie - Mormon City!

There ain't no Liberals in Mormon City!

Just cultists!

So what ?

First, the population of SLC is less than half LDS.

Second, the state is about 65% LDS over all and will vote Romney in by a huge margin...or maybe you think Obama should be campaigning there ?

That wold not be very optimal.

 

[clevergirl]

SALT LAKE TRIBUNE ENDORSES OBAMA!!!!!!


Too many Mitts

Obama has earned another term


Nowhere has Mitt Romney’s pursuit of the presidency been more warmly welcomed or closely followed than here in Utah. The Republican nominee’s political and religious pedigrees, his adeptly bipartisan governorship of a Democratic state, and his head for business and the bottom line all inspire admiration and hope in our largely Mormon, Republican, business-friendly state.

But it was Romney’s singular role in rescuing Utah’s organization of the 2002 Olympics from a cesspool of scandal, and his oversight of the most successful Winter Games on record, that make him the Beehive State’s favorite adopted son. After all, Romney managed to save the state from ignominy, turning the extravaganza into a showcase for the matchless landscapes, volunteerism and efficiency that told the world what is best and most beautiful about Utah and its people.

In short, this is the Mitt Romney we knew, or thought we knew, as one of us.

*snip*

MediaNews Group endorsed Obama...PS they own the Salt Lake Tribune.

WOW a liberal media group endorses the ...GASP liberal candidate!

Salt Lake, sweetie - Mormon City!

There ain't no Liberals in Mormon City!

Just cultists!

News Paper owned by liberals sweetie...ain't too many conservatives at MediaNews Group.

As to your assertion about liberals in Utah sweetie? I think you need to work on that foot in mouth thingy you have going on

Poll shows Salt Lakers most liberal of Utah cities and towns

 

[Caroljo]

Can you prove that he's ever helped anyone?
I mean real charity like Romney has done?

I can prove Romneys....you got any links to show what a great guy Obama is to the poor?
NOT something the government has given his followers. I would like to see at least a couple things that he's done for people he didn't even know....out of the kindness of his heart.

I'll wait...............

WHO'S GREEDY? Obama Gave 1% to Charity, Romney Gave 15% - Mitt Romney - Fox Nation

There...you've been proven wrong.

Have a great day.

Bullshit....that's not what i asked! I know he gave MONEY to Charity (although not to damn much). What i asked is has he ever gone out and personally helped anyone?

Anyone can write a check and hand it over to a charity....and many only do it as a tax write-off. They couldn't give a crap less for others, they're just helping themselves.

I want to know if Obama has ever gone out of his way to PERSONALLY help someone in need.

I'll wait again...........

 

[bobcollum]

Can you prove that he's ever helped anyone?
I mean real charity like Romney has done?

I can prove Romneys....you got any links to show what a great guy Obama is to the poor?
NOT something the government has given his followers. I would like to see at least a couple things that he's done for people he didn't even know....out of the kindness of his heart.

I'll wait...............

WHO'S GREEDY? Obama Gave 1% to Charity, Romney Gave 15% - Mitt Romney - Fox Nation

There...you've been proven wrong.

Have a great day.

Bullshit....that's not what i asked! I know he gave MONEY to Charity (although not to damn much). What i asked is has he ever gone out and personally helped anyone?

Anyone can write a check and hand it over to a charity....and many only do it as a tax write-off. They couldn't give a crap less for others, they're just helping themselves.

I want to know if Obama has ever gone out of his way to PERSONALLY help someone in need.

I'll wait again...........

Nice backpedaling.

You claimed he's never helped anyone, ever. Then you claimed that Romney helps people all the time, because he donates to charity.

Anything else you'd like to be wrong about today?

 

[clevergirl]

MediaNews Group endorsed Obama...PS they own the Salt Lake Tribune.

WOW a liberal media group endorses the ...GASP liberal candidate!

Salt Lake, sweetie - Mormon City!

There ain't no Liberals in Mormon City!

Just cultists!

So what ?

First, the population of SLC is less than half LDS.

Second, the state is about 65% LDS over all and will vote Romney in by a huge margin...or maybe you think Obama should be campaigning there ?

That wold not be very optimal.

And we know Obama is all about "optimal" transactions especially if they involve murder or votes.

 

[bobcollum]

What about the fact that Romney 'isn't concerned' with the 47% that don't pay taxes?

That doesn't sound very helpful to the people that need help the most.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Sickening. He was frightened and asked for help but the ‘oh-so-compassionate’ Hillary! and Barack decided it was much more important to keep up the ‘Al Qaeda is on the run’ pretense than to order protection for Americans in peril. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! Four Americans are DEAD because BHO and HC were protecting their own political interests .

 

[ScienceRocks]

Read all about it...Obama spins and lies!!!!


Time line of lies!

Obama's Benghazi Lies - Home

Destroys Obama's case. It wasn't about a fucking terrorist attack, BUT the protest over our freedom of speech.

On the 13th he was talking about the protest when he said terrorized.

Susan Rice said on the 16th that this wasn't a pre-planned attack. LIES

On the 18th Obama went on the letterman show and blamed our first amendment for the attack. LIES!!!

If the terrorized was supposed to mean a terrorist attack. Well, Obama sure inserted his foot in his ass.

Clinton on the 21st was the first to say it was a Terrorist attack. SPIN!

Obama on the view on the 25th said it was about the fucking video! Spin some more!!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD4a9GHBF_U&feature=related]Carney maintains Libya attack was not preplanned - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPzjayOh-PU&feature=relmfu]Who is responsible for the attack in Benghazi? - YouTube[/ame]




Biden blatantly lied about Chris Stevens wanting more Security
The Fact Checker


“We weren’t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security.”

— Biden, speaking of the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya

Biden’s bold statement was directly contradicted by State Department officials just this week, in testimony before a congressional panel and in unclassified cables released by a congressional committee.

“All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources,” said Eric Nordstrom, the top regional security officer in Libya earlier this year. A Utah national guardsman who led a security team, Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, said: “We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met.”



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxjz5wEcF0]September 12, 2012 - President Obama Speaks on Libya Attacks that killed US Ambassador Chris Stevens - YouTube[/ame]

@ 5:00-6:20 you can hear the context in which he mentioned terrorism, Romney was correct in his assertation as, in context, Obama was referring to terrorism in general and not specifically the attack
====

Candy wasn't even right here as Obama said "terror" in the context of the protest.



Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror
Breitbart ^ | 17 Oct 2012, 3:44 AM PDT | Tony Lee
Crowley to Axelrod: Obama Never Said Benghazi Attack Was 'Act of Terror'

On CNN's "State of the Union" on September 30, Candy Crowley insisted David Axelrod, President Barack Obama's chief strategist, was wrong when Axelrod tried to claim President Barack Obama called the Benghazi attack "an act of terror" on the day after.
"First, they said it was not planned, it was part of this tape," Crowley said when Axelrod tried to spin her.
This was Crowley the journalist, unlike the pro-Obama advocate who moderated Tuesday's debate between Obama and Mitt Romney and interjected herself into an argument between Obama and Romney on the exact same issue -- and took Obama's side.
During the debate, Crowley affirmed Obama's assertion that he referred to the Benghazi attacks as acts of terror on the day after.
After Romney correctly said it took Obama 14 days before Obama said the the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror, Crowley took Obama's side -- to an ovation from the town hall audience -- and she proclaimed Obama had indeed claimed the Benghazi attacks were acts of terror the day after the attacks in the White House Rose Garden.
On September 12, the day after the attacks, Obama did say the words "acts of terror" but he was not referring to the attacks that killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens.
Crowley knew that on September 30 and she conceded it again hours after the debate when she went on CNN and said while Romney "was right in the main, but he just chose the wrong word." But the damage had already been done.
With Obama's reelection on the line, Crowley seemed to have conveniently forgotten the facts she knew two weeks before when she grilled Axelrod in a way she should have Obama.

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Yet we learn today that Stevens was begging for months for security??? WTF is wrong with the Obama Admin. If you leftist had any honor you wouldn't vote for Obama.


Documents show Stevens worried about Libya security threats, Al Qaeda before consulate attack
Fox News ^ | 10-19-2012 | James Rosen
Documents show Stevens worried about Libya security threats, Al Qaeda before consulate attack | Fox News

Across 166 pages of internal State Department documents -- released Friday by a pair of Republican congressmen pressing the Obama administration for more answers on the Benghazi terrorist attack -- slain U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens and the security officers assigned to protect him repeatedly sounded alarms to their superiors in Washington about the intensifying lawlessness and violence in Eastern Libya, where Stevens ultimately died.

On Sept. 11 -- the day Stevens and three other Americans were killed -- the ambassador signed a three-page cable, labeled "sensitive," in which he noted "growing problems with security" in Benghazi and "growing frustration" on the part of local residents with Libyan police and security forces. These forces the ambassador characterized as "too weak to keep the country secure."

 

[Stephanie]

What about the fact that Romney 'isn't concerned' with the 47% that don't pay taxes?

That doesn't sound very helpful to the people that need help the most.

well those people are still ALIVE

 

[bobcollum]

What about the fact that Romney 'isn't concerned' with the 47% that don't pay taxes?

That doesn't sound very helpful to the people that need help the most.

well those people are still ALIVE

I'll take the blame for not quoting caroljo's post that I was referring to, which didn't involve the stuff in Libya.

 

[Listening]

 

[clevergirl]

What about the fact that Romney 'isn't concerned' with the 47% that don't pay taxes?

That doesn't sound very helpful to the people that need help the most.

well those people are still ALIVE

Quite optimally so~

 

[clevergirl]

I called it an "aside". I did not attempt to use it to make an argument about the original topic. If that is a difficult concept for you, then I'd say you might seek help with that...just sayin'

Right, saying it as an aside makes it less off-topic.

You guys will say anything.

No, calling it an aside makes it VERY off-topic, hence the name. DOH!

What I personally pointed out with the Rose Garden Statement, was that it was inserted and completely unrelated, to the comment by Obama on the Daily Show.

Cat get your tongue bob?

 

[Trajan]

he said it back to Stewart immediately in the next sentence as a rhetorical playback in response to Stewart's use of 'optimal'......

I don't see this as an issue, he didn't say this as a general, unprompted statement on the topic out of thin air, it was in response to Stewart, I would have done same more than likely.



"I would say and even you would admit it was not the optimal response - at least to the American people as far as all of us being on the same page."

"Here is what I will say, if four Americans get killed it is not optimal," the president responded. "And we are going to fix it, all of it. And what happens during the course of a presidency, you know the government is a big operation at any given time, something screws up and you make sure you find out what's broken and you fix it."

more at-
Obama to Jon Stewart: Benghazi response "not optimal" - CBS News

 

[Caroljo]

What about the fact that Romney 'isn't concerned' with the 47% that don't pay taxes?

That doesn't sound very helpful to the people that need help the most.

It's not that he doesn't CARE about them, he's not concerning himself right now because he knows he won't have their votes anyway! It doesn't mean he won't help them if he's elected, he just is smart enough to realize they will only vote for Obama and nothing he says will change that. And i think you libs know that, but it gives you something else to bitch about!

 

[Synthaholic]

MediaNews Group endorsed Obama...PS they own the Salt Lake Tribune.

WOW a liberal media group endorses the ...GASP liberal candidate!

Salt Lake, sweetie - Mormon City!

There ain't no Liberals in Mormon City!

Just cultists!

News Paper owned by liberals sweetie...ain't too many conservatives at MediaNews Group.

As to your assertion about liberals in Utah sweetie? I think you need to work on that foot in mouth thingy you have going on

Poll shows Salt Lakers most liberal of Utah cities and towns

Newspapers reflect their readership, sugar tits.

And of course SL is going to be the most Liberal, by comparison to the rest of that backward cult haven.

If 2 out of every 10 SL residents are Liberal, that's more than out in the small towns. Just go ask any guy or his 5 wives.

 

[FJO]

Barack Obama on Benghazi attack: Mother of diplomat criticises President's 'optimal' comment | Mail Online


My son is not very optimal - he is very dead' says mother of Sean Smith

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ldyGsZ1Io]Mother of slain State Dep't official is tired of being ignored by Obama Admin - YouTube[/ame]

that interview is simply heart wrenching. She deserves more.

She will not get more from Obama and his goons.

 

[FJO]

Obama is a huge embarassment to this country.

Hopefully, the nightmare will end in November.

No, not until January. Allah only knows what kind of damage Barry Kardashian can do between November and January.

He will pardon an unprecedented number of murderers on death row. All blacks, of course.

 

[FJO]

The website Brietbart criticizes the President. Stop the PRESSES!!!

The woman and her son that died were big Obama supporters.

The mother
used to be