'My health insurance is going up to $800 a month with a $15k deductible and that's the CHEAPEST PLAN"

[DonGlock26]

We could talk about various plan levels (bronze, silver,gold), but the bottom line is that is not a constructive conversation about ACA.

If underlying medical expenses are out of control and gov doesn't subsidise healthcare sufficiently then thats not the fault of exchange.

If we want to address what essential coverage is, then that again doesn't mean there is something wrong with the concept that there shoud be essential coverage, and we should have exchange where comparative insurance shopping and means tested subsidies are provided to Americans.

This is the intellectual equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and saying "Nununununun".

A policy with a $15,000 deductible is really an expensive catastrophic insurance policy.

Obamacare has only made the insurance companies richer.

The ACA Is Making Health Insurers Much Richer

As we approach the 14-year anniversary of the Affordable Care Act, the law is quite different from what Congress originally enacted

paragoninstitute.org

 

[DonGlock26]

$800/person is what we were paying for health insurance on the free market 20 years ago.

What was the deductible?

 

[Slyhunter]

$800/person is what we were paying for health insurance on the free market 20 years ago.

anyone with or without ins will get emergency care if they go to an E.R. Medicaid will cover anyone who is disabled, like me, even if we don't have ins. Ins. doesn't need to be fixed. You want better care pay for it.

 

[DonGlock26]

She says she makes twice as much as an average person, and she wants others to pay for her health insurance???

In her other videos, she refers to herself as "rich..."

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Her main problem seems to be her Democrat mindset.

Karen wants a handout?

 

[JLW]

Republicans have done everything in their legislative power to destroy the Affordable Care Act, and you numbnuts cheered.

Pat yourselves on the back, morons.

You got what you wanted.

This post is spot on. Most these Trumpers blaming the ACA don’tt remember all the damn bankruptcies that were occurring because of medical bills prior to the passage of the ACA, The problem with the ACA is that Trumpers want to destroy it and they are accomplishing their goals,

Hey, Trumpers especially you all with preexisting conditions, you want to back to being uninsured and unable to get insurance? That is where you are going. You might as well put money aside for that bankruptcy attorney that you will inevitably need.

 

[dblack]

You and yours are only good at ******* things up, and never can craft a single solution.

The last thing we want is a "single" solution.

 

[Slyhunter]

This post is spot on. Most these Trumpers blaming the ACA don’tt remember all the damn bankruptcies that were occurring because of medical bills prior to the passage of the ACA, The problem with the ACA is that Trumpers want to destroy it and they are accomplishing their goals,

Hey, Trumpers especially you all with preexisting conditions, you want to back to being uninsured and unable to get insurance? That is where you are going. You might as well put money aside for that bankruptcy attorney that you will inevitably need.

You can't bankrupt medical bills, but they can't force you to pay it, even though they can ruin your credit. If you can't pay your medical bills you shouldn't borrow money anyhow

 

[dblack]

This post is spot on. Most these Trumpers blaming the ACA don’tt remember all the damn bankruptcies that were occurring because of medical bills prior to the passage of the ACA, The problem with the ACA is that Trumpers want to destroy it and they are accomplishing their goals,

I wish. But, rest easy, Congress never met a federal feeding trough they didn't like. ACA isn't going anywhere.

Hey, Trumpers especially you all with preexisting conditions, you want to back to being uninsured and unable to get insurance? That is where you are going. You might as well put money aside for that bankruptcy attorney that you will inevitably need.

The requirement that insurance policies "cover" pre-existing conditions is idiotic. It's the core conceit of ACA. It wildly popular and utterly stupid. Go figure.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

This post is spot on. Most these Trumpers blaming the ACA don’tt remember all the damn bankruptcies that were occurring because of medical bills prior to the passage of the ACA, The problem with the ACA is that Trumpers want to destroy it and they are accomplishing their goals,

Hey, Trumpers especially you all with preexisting conditions, you want to back to being uninsured and unable to get insurance? That is where you are going. You might as well put money aside for that bankruptcy attorney that you will inevitably need.

I want the government OUT of the healthcare business entirely. That will bring costs down for everyone including the poor, which the left claims they want to help, but I think it's really more about votes.

 

[JLW]

You can't bankrupt medical bills, but they can't force you to pay it, even though they can ruin your credit. If you can't pay your medical bills you shouldn't borrow money anyhow

While you can’t just declare bankruptcy for medical bills only, you can declare bankruptcy for medical bills as part of your bankruptcy estate, I.e. unsecured creditors. Medical bills prior to the ACA had been a major reason to declare bankruptcy or alternately, for millions to go on Medicaid.

BTW killing the ACA will cause Medicaid enrollees to skyrocket.

 

[JLW]

I want the government OUT of the healthcare business entirely. That will bring costs down for everyone including the poor, which the left claims they want to help, but I think it's really more about votes.

Before the ACA medical costs were outrageous. It is why so many families went on Medicaid when a family member got sick. One purpose of the ACA was to get the sick off Medicaid. All you are doing by killing the ACA is putting the entire medical bill burden back on the government.

 

[InstantOn]

This is what you MAGAts voted for. You can only blame yourselves.

 

[dblack]

Before the ACA medical costs were outrageous.

They still are. And they're still going up.

It is why so many families went on Medicaid when a family member got sick. One purpose of the ACA was to get the sick off Medicaid. All you are doing by killing the ACA is putting the entire medical bill burden back on the government.

The purpose of ACA was to bail out the insurance industry and install them as quasi-public utility companies. The dream of all CEOs - private profits and public losses. Win-win.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What good is coverage, if the deductible is $15,000???

Screw you for being POOR! We owe you Nothing!

 

[Zincwarrior]

Are you saying you can't swing $15,000?

Its your fault for being POOR.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Sex Change Operations aren't "essential", why shouldn't policy holders be able to opt out if they don't want this coverage?

And covering pre-existing conditions boosts the costs of policies for obvious reasons. You can't buy a policy to cover a house which is already on fire.

Ok
Now do cancer.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Sadly, we're too ******* paralyzed by hyperpartisan politics to do anything constructive. And we're STILL not discussing one of the primary drivers of our inflated health care costs, the fact that Americans are so FAT.

No argument on the behemoths walking around. Are you willing to admit that the hyper-partisan political environment today is not 100% Trump's fault? It seems the most partisan people in America are the Trump Haters. Someone is going to have to extend an olive branch to Trump and the GOP, who happen to be in power and hold better cards. Can the Trump Haters do that? If not, might as well own the hyper-partisanship. Note that once Vance becomes POTUS, he too will be enemy #1, a racist, a fascist, and a dictator and the whole thing repeats.

 

[InstantOn]

No argument on the behemoths walking around. Are you willing to admit that the hyper-partisan political environment today is not 100% Trump's fault? It seems the most partisan people in America are the Trump Haters. Someone is going to have to extend an olive branch to Trump and the GOP, who happen to be in power and hold better cards. Can the Trump Haters do that? If not, might as well own the hyper-partisanship. Note that once Vance becomes POTUS, he too will be enemy #1, a racist, a fascist, and a dictator and the whole thing repeats.

Vance will become president only if Chump dies while in office.

 

[DonGlock26]

Screw you for being POOR! We owe you Nothing!

Obama gave them a pill and told them to go home and just die.

 

[DonGlock26]

Vance will become president only if Chump dies while in office.

Kamala 2028.