My Candidate for President...Scott Walker....let me introduce you....

[martybegan]

Not real big on the separation of church and state.......

There's no such thing as "separation of church and state." It is nowhere in any founding document.

It is always funny to hear the lefty statists talk about separation of church and state, considering it comes from the one Founder who they hate the most, Jefferson.....and of course it comes from a personal letter, and like you pointed out, nothing from our official founding documents.

We all know that the words separation of church and state do not appear in the constitution. But maybe you can tell us- if it does not mean that the government may not show favoritism towards a particular religion and allow it to influence law and public policy, what does it mean? Religious freedom is a two way street. You and I cannot have religious freedom unless we are also free of the religious influences of others, and that includes the Imposition of religious values by the hand of government. The founders understood that regardless of their personal beliefs. JFK Understood that. These ass hat Republicans today do not. Consider this:
.......
___________________________________________

The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/12/08/the-christian-right-does-not-want-you-to-know-about-this-day/

The Christian Right has made religious freedom the ideological phalanx of its current campaigns in the culture wars. Religious freedom is now invoked as a way of seeking to derail access to reproductive health services as well as equality for LGBTQ people, most prominently regarding marriage equality.

But history provides little comfort for the theocratic visions of the Christian Right. And that is where our story begins.

For all of the shouting about religious liberty — from the landmark Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case, to the passage of the anti-gay Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Mississippi, and more — there is barely any mention, let alone any observance, of the official national Religious Freedom Day, enacted by Congress in 1992 and recognized every January 16 by an annual presidential proclamation.

The day commemorates the enactment of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786.

The bill, authored by Thomas Jefferson and later pushed through the state legislature by then member of the House of Delegates, James Madison, is regarded as the root of how the framers of the Constitution approached matters of religion and government, and it was as revolutionary as the era in which it was written. It not only disestablished the Anglican Church as the official state church, but it provided that no one can be compelled to attend any religious institution or to underwrite it with taxes; that individuals are free to believe as they will and that this “shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.” As a practical matter, this meant that what we believe or don’t believe is not the concern of government and that we are all equal as citizens. - See more at: The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day Political Research Associates

You completely misunderstand the First Amendment. No shock there.
The 1A does two things: It prevents government from establishing an official religion, like Anglicanism. Along with that it forbids religious tests for office.
It guarantees free exercise of religion among its citizens.
Since our entire legal apparatus is based on Western Culture, which is heavily influenced by Christianity, it is inane to talk about taking religion out of public life. Question: How many times does the 10 Commandments appear in the Supreme Court?

I don't think that I misunderstand anything. Neither Christianity nor any religion should influence the law and public policy

Wrong. It cannot dictate policy, and policy cannot force you to follow a religion, but influence is allowed, as the source of a person's opinion on something is not relevant.

 

[Brain357]

And he balanced the budget by cutting education. That is long term bad for WI.

 

[2aguy]

And he balanced the budget by cutting education. That is long term bad for WI.

No, he isn't giving more money to a University system with money it won't use sitting in it's reserves.....

 

[2aguy]

GOP Wisconsin vs Dem Minnesota Rankings

Really, the daily kos.........? Why not get the data from hilary clinton's campaign...oh that's right....you essentially did.....

 

[2aguy]

Our country needs jobs, walker is a failure at creating jobs.

Walker is Governor of a blue state...it is going to take him time to overcome that......

He has pushed through everything conservative, it just isn't working....

Our country needs jobs, walker is a failure at creating jobs.

Walker is Governor of a blue state...it is going to take him time to overcome that......

He has pushed through everything conservative, it just isn't working....

yeah...it is...they now have a surplus, teachers still have jobs instead of being laid off, and the economy is turning around......and they have the Castle doctrine and Concealed Carry.....

Yes he has pushed through everything conservative, it just hasnt made wi a better place. Last in the Midwest in job creation, even behind IL. Yes concealed carry, and violent crime is up. You need to realize much of what conservatives push simply doesn't work. MN is more liberal and kicking WI butt!

And here you go...

Wisconsin - Forbes

The Badger State adopted the slogan of “Open for Business” in 2011, erecting signs along the state border. Wisconsin’s forecasted job picture has improved dramatically since then moving from No. 49 to No. 21 this year.

 

[Brain357]

And he balanced the budget by cutting education. That is long term bad for WI.

No, he isn't giving more money to a University system with money it won't use sitting in it's reserves.....

Scott Walker cut school funding more than any governor Greater Wisconsin Committee claims PolitiFact Wisconsin
In fact, in February 2012 we rated True a broader claim -- that Walker had enacted "the biggest cuts to education in our state's history." The $1.2 billion in reductions included $792 million in direct state aid to kindergarten-through-12th grade schools, which is the focus of the new Greater Wisconsin Committee ad.

 

[2aguy]

And he balanced the budget by cutting education. That is long term bad for WI.

No, he isn't giving more money to a University system with money it won't use sitting in it's reserves.....

Scott Walker cut school funding more than any governor Greater Wisconsin Committee claims PolitiFact Wisconsin
In fact, in February 2012 we rated True a broader claim -- that Walker had enacted "the biggest cuts to education in our state's history." The $1.2 billion in reductions included $792 million in direct state aid to kindergarten-through-12th grade schools, which is the focus of the new Greater Wisconsin Committee ad.

Yeah.....politifact...another lefty support org.

 

[Brain357]

GOP Wisconsin vs Dem Minnesota Rankings

Really, the daily kos.........? Why not get the data from hilary clinton's campaign...oh that's right....you essentially did.....

Dispute the numbers if you can. I don't think you can. MN is doing much better than WI.

 

[2aguy]

GOP Wisconsin vs Dem Minnesota Rankings

Really, the daily kos.........? Why not get the data from hilary clinton's campaign...oh that's right....you essentially did.....

Dispute the numbers if you can. I don't think you can. MN is doing much better than WI.

Yeah....I'll use your own link....

Scott Walker cut school funding more than any governor Greater Wisconsin Committee claims PolitiFact Wisconsin

Those figures show Wisconsin was among 15 states that reduced state per-student spending from the previous year. Wisconsin's 0.6 percent reduction (adjusted for inflation) wasn’t the largest cut, but rather the third-smallest. (Alaska’s 3.2 percent cut was the largest.)


Wisconsin state funding was $5,747 per student in 2013-’14, versus $5,783 the previous year.


As for comparing states on school funding for the entirety of Walker’s term, those figures simply aren’t available yet.

A whole 36 dollars per student.......wow.......I guess they will have to close down the state huh.......

Yeah....and if you ever get a chance....go through your local schools and see how much money they waste, steal and lose.......sell this to your lefty buddies....

 

[Brain357]

And he balanced the budget by cutting education. That is long term bad for WI.

No, he isn't giving more money to a University system with money it won't use sitting in it's reserves.....

Scott Walker cut school funding more than any governor Greater Wisconsin Committee claims PolitiFact Wisconsin
In fact, in February 2012 we rated True a broader claim -- that Walker had enacted "the biggest cuts to education in our state's history." The $1.2 billion in reductions included $792 million in direct state aid to kindergarten-through-12th grade schools, which is the focus of the new Greater Wisconsin Committee ad.

Yeah.....politifact...another lefty support org.

So to support Walker you need to ignore the facts. I don't think he has a chance.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Walker has fallen 8 points in the primary polls since April. That vote has gone to Trump.

 

[2aguy]

And he balanced the budget by cutting education. That is long term bad for WI.

No, he isn't giving more money to a University system with money it won't use sitting in it's reserves.....

Scott Walker cut school funding more than any governor Greater Wisconsin Committee claims PolitiFact Wisconsin
In fact, in February 2012 we rated True a broader claim -- that Walker had enacted "the biggest cuts to education in our state's history." The $1.2 billion in reductions included $792 million in direct state aid to kindergarten-through-12th grade schools, which is the focus of the new Greater Wisconsin Committee ad.

Yeah.....politifact...another lefty support org.

So to support Walker you need to ignore the facts. I don't think he has a chance.

To lie about walker you have to ignore the truth, reality, right and wrong.....which you do quite well....

 

[2aguy]

Walker has fallen 8 points in the primary polls since April. That vote has gone to Trump.

Yeah.....Trump has t.v. shows, and Walker has just been the governor of Wisconsin......really a way to measure that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Walker has fallen 8 points in the primary polls since April. That vote has gone to Trump.

Yeah.....Trump has t.v. shows, and Walker has just been the governor of Wisconsin......really a way to measure that.

Votes is how you measure who wins or loses.

 

[martybegan]

Walker has fallen 8 points in the primary polls since April. That vote has gone to Trump.

Yeah.....Trump has t.v. shows, and Walker has just been the governor of Wisconsin......really a way to measure that.

Votes is how you measure who wins or loses.

Coming from a person fapping over polls 16 months away from the election, your statement is comical.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

There's no such thing as "separation of church and state." It is nowhere in any founding document.

It is always funny to hear the lefty statists talk about separation of church and state, considering it comes from the one Founder who they hate the most, Jefferson.....and of course it comes from a personal letter, and like you pointed out, nothing from our official founding documents.

We all know that the words separation of church and state do not appear in the constitution. But maybe you can tell us- if it does not mean that the government may not show favoritism towards a particular religion and allow it to influence law and public policy, what does it mean? Religious freedom is a two way street. You and I cannot have religious freedom unless we are also free of the religious influences of others, and that includes the Imposition of religious values by the hand of government. The founders understood that regardless of their personal beliefs. JFK Understood that. These ass hat Republicans today do not. Consider this:
.......
___________________________________________

The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/12/08/the-christian-right-does-not-want-you-to-know-about-this-day/

The Christian Right has made religious freedom the ideological phalanx of its current campaigns in the culture wars. Religious freedom is now invoked as a way of seeking to derail access to reproductive health services as well as equality for LGBTQ people, most prominently regarding marriage equality.

But history provides little comfort for the theocratic visions of the Christian Right. And that is where our story begins.

For all of the shouting about religious liberty — from the landmark Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case, to the passage of the anti-gay Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Mississippi, and more — there is barely any mention, let alone any observance, of the official national Religious Freedom Day, enacted by Congress in 1992 and recognized every January 16 by an annual presidential proclamation.

The day commemorates the enactment of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786.

The bill, authored by Thomas Jefferson and later pushed through the state legislature by then member of the House of Delegates, James Madison, is regarded as the root of how the framers of the Constitution approached matters of religion and government, and it was as revolutionary as the era in which it was written. It not only disestablished the Anglican Church as the official state church, but it provided that no one can be compelled to attend any religious institution or to underwrite it with taxes; that individuals are free to believe as they will and that this “shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.” As a practical matter, this meant that what we believe or don’t believe is not the concern of government and that we are all equal as citizens. - See more at: The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day Political Research Associates

You completely misunderstand the First Amendment. No shock there.
The 1A does two things: It prevents government from establishing an official religion, like Anglicanism. Along with that it forbids religious tests for office.
It guarantees free exercise of religion among its citizens.
Since our entire legal apparatus is based on Western Culture, which is heavily influenced by Christianity, it is inane to talk about taking religion out of public life. Question: How many times does the 10 Commandments appear in the Supreme Court?

I don't think that I misunderstand anything. Neither Christianity nor any religion should influence the law and public policy

Wrong. It cannot dictate policy, and policy cannot force you to follow a religion, but influence is allowed, as the source of a person's opinion on something is not relevant.

It would depend on what you mean by influence. Our laws do reflect what can be said to be Christian values- prohibitions on murder and theft for instance-but they are really universal moral values that every society adheres to. I'm talking about the type of thing such as when some Christians believe that homosexuality is wrong, the civil law of the land should reflect that. That would be dictating policy and that's what some people advocate

 

[martybegan]

It is always funny to hear the lefty statists talk about separation of church and state, considering it comes from the one Founder who they hate the most, Jefferson.....and of course it comes from a personal letter, and like you pointed out, nothing from our official founding documents.

We all know that the words separation of church and state do not appear in the constitution. But maybe you can tell us- if it does not mean that the government may not show favoritism towards a particular religion and allow it to influence law and public policy, what does it mean? Religious freedom is a two way street. You and I cannot have religious freedom unless we are also free of the religious influences of others, and that includes the Imposition of religious values by the hand of government. The founders understood that regardless of their personal beliefs. JFK Understood that. These ass hat Republicans today do not. Consider this:
.......
___________________________________________

The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/12/08/the-christian-right-does-not-want-you-to-know-about-this-day/

The Christian Right has made religious freedom the ideological phalanx of its current campaigns in the culture wars. Religious freedom is now invoked as a way of seeking to derail access to reproductive health services as well as equality for LGBTQ people, most prominently regarding marriage equality.

But history provides little comfort for the theocratic visions of the Christian Right. And that is where our story begins.

For all of the shouting about religious liberty — from the landmark Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case, to the passage of the anti-gay Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Mississippi, and more — there is barely any mention, let alone any observance, of the official national Religious Freedom Day, enacted by Congress in 1992 and recognized every January 16 by an annual presidential proclamation.

The day commemorates the enactment of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786.

The bill, authored by Thomas Jefferson and later pushed through the state legislature by then member of the House of Delegates, James Madison, is regarded as the root of how the framers of the Constitution approached matters of religion and government, and it was as revolutionary as the era in which it was written. It not only disestablished the Anglican Church as the official state church, but it provided that no one can be compelled to attend any religious institution or to underwrite it with taxes; that individuals are free to believe as they will and that this “shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.” As a practical matter, this meant that what we believe or don’t believe is not the concern of government and that we are all equal as citizens. - See more at: The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day Political Research Associates

You completely misunderstand the First Amendment. No shock there.
The 1A does two things: It prevents government from establishing an official religion, like Anglicanism. Along with that it forbids religious tests for office.
It guarantees free exercise of religion among its citizens.
Since our entire legal apparatus is based on Western Culture, which is heavily influenced by Christianity, it is inane to talk about taking religion out of public life. Question: How many times does the 10 Commandments appear in the Supreme Court?

I don't think that I misunderstand anything. Neither Christianity nor any religion should influence the law and public policy

Wrong. It cannot dictate policy, and policy cannot force you to follow a religion, but influence is allowed, as the source of a person's opinion on something is not relevant.

It would depend on what you mean by influence. Our laws do reflect what can be said to be Christian values- prohibitions on murder and theft for instance-but they are really universal moral values that every society adheres to. I'm talking about the type of thing such as when some Christians believe that homosexuality is wrong, the civil law of the land should reflect that. That would be dictating policy and that's what some people advocate

If they can get enough people to agree to it, it doesn't matter the source of the law. And if they really get enough people to agree to it, i.e. amendment level agreement, then REALLY nothing can be done about it.

 

[Brain357]

Our country needs jobs, walker is a failure at creating jobs.

Walker is Governor of a blue state...it is going to take him time to overcome that......

He has pushed through everything conservative, it just isn't working....

Our country needs jobs, walker is a failure at creating jobs.

Walker is Governor of a blue state...it is going to take him time to overcome that......

He has pushed through everything conservative, it just isn't working....

yeah...it is...they now have a surplus, teachers still have jobs instead of being laid off, and the economy is turning around......and they have the Castle doctrine and Concealed Carry.....

Yes he has pushed through everything conservative, it just hasnt made wi a better place. Last in the Midwest in job creation, even behind IL. Yes concealed carry, and violent crime is up. You need to realize much of what conservatives push simply doesn't work. MN is more liberal and kicking WI butt!

And here you go...

Wisconsin - Forbes

The Badger State adopted the slogan of “Open for Business” in 2011, erecting signs along the state border. Wisconsin’s forecasted job picture has improved dramatically since then moving from No. 49 to No. 21 this year.

In Scott Walker s first term Wisconsin ranked 35th in job creation Wsj

 

[Brain357]

And he balanced the budget by cutting education. That is long term bad for WI.

No, he isn't giving more money to a University system with money it won't use sitting in it's reserves.....

Scott Walker cut school funding more than any governor Greater Wisconsin Committee claims PolitiFact Wisconsin
In fact, in February 2012 we rated True a broader claim -- that Walker had enacted "the biggest cuts to education in our state's history." The $1.2 billion in reductions included $792 million in direct state aid to kindergarten-through-12th grade schools, which is the focus of the new Greater Wisconsin Committee ad.

Yeah.....politifact...another lefty support org.

So to support Walker you need to ignore the facts. I don't think he has a chance.

To lie about walker you have to ignore the truth, reality, right and wrong.....which you do quite well....

The facts are WI has been bad in job growth. They have a balanced budget from education cuts. They got comcealed carry and violent crime is up. Walker isn't very popular in his own state. He's a bad candidate. His policies have not made WI better.

 

[The Rabbi]

It is always funny to hear the lefty statists talk about separation of church and state, considering it comes from the one Founder who they hate the most, Jefferson.....and of course it comes from a personal letter, and like you pointed out, nothing from our official founding documents.

We all know that the words separation of church and state do not appear in the constitution. But maybe you can tell us- if it does not mean that the government may not show favoritism towards a particular religion and allow it to influence law and public policy, what does it mean? Religious freedom is a two way street. You and I cannot have religious freedom unless we are also free of the religious influences of others, and that includes the Imposition of religious values by the hand of government. The founders understood that regardless of their personal beliefs. JFK Understood that. These ass hat Republicans today do not. Consider this:
.......
___________________________________________

The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day http://www.politicalresearch.org/2014/12/08/the-christian-right-does-not-want-you-to-know-about-this-day/

The Christian Right has made religious freedom the ideological phalanx of its current campaigns in the culture wars. Religious freedom is now invoked as a way of seeking to derail access to reproductive health services as well as equality for LGBTQ people, most prominently regarding marriage equality.

But history provides little comfort for the theocratic visions of the Christian Right. And that is where our story begins.

For all of the shouting about religious liberty — from the landmark Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case, to the passage of the anti-gay Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Mississippi, and more — there is barely any mention, let alone any observance, of the official national Religious Freedom Day, enacted by Congress in 1992 and recognized every January 16 by an annual presidential proclamation.

The day commemorates the enactment of the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786.

The bill, authored by Thomas Jefferson and later pushed through the state legislature by then member of the House of Delegates, James Madison, is regarded as the root of how the framers of the Constitution approached matters of religion and government, and it was as revolutionary as the era in which it was written. It not only disestablished the Anglican Church as the official state church, but it provided that no one can be compelled to attend any religious institution or to underwrite it with taxes; that individuals are free to believe as they will and that this “shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.” As a practical matter, this meant that what we believe or don’t believe is not the concern of government and that we are all equal as citizens. - See more at: The Christian Right Does Not Want You to Know About This Day Political Research Associates

You completely misunderstand the First Amendment. No shock there.
The 1A does two things: It prevents government from establishing an official religion, like Anglicanism. Along with that it forbids religious tests for office.
It guarantees free exercise of religion among its citizens.
Since our entire legal apparatus is based on Western Culture, which is heavily influenced by Christianity, it is inane to talk about taking religion out of public life. Question: How many times does the 10 Commandments appear in the Supreme Court?

I don't think that I misunderstand anything. Neither Christianity nor any religion should influence the law and public policy

Wrong. It cannot dictate policy, and policy cannot force you to follow a religion, but influence is allowed, as the source of a person's opinion on something is not relevant.

It would depend on what you mean by influence. Our laws do reflect what can be said to be Christian values- prohibitions on murder and theft for instance-but they are really universal moral values that every society adheres to. I'm talking about the type of thing such as when some Christians believe that homosexuality is wrong, the civil law of the land should reflect that. That would be dictating policy and that's what some people advocate

Thats why all government offices are open on Sunday, right?
Dipshit.