Muslims on this messageboard hate Jews, but without Jews Muslims would not even exist

[MartyNYC]

Judaism is the basis of Islam, adjusted slightly for an Arab audience when Islam started in Arabia. Judaism and the Jewish Bible had already existed for well over 1,000 years before Muhammad, the purported founder of Islam, was born and adopted numerous Jewish beliefs and practices, as well as using the biblical texts for his Koran.

So, Muslims, without Jews, you wouldn’t even exist. You’re welcome!

 

[tyroneweaver]

Jesus said not to look for him in the dessert. Islam is a dessert religion.

 

[Moonglow]

Three Abrahamic based religions that hate each other, now there are the true followers of a God of love. You'd think the way they act that they actually worship Satan.

 

[surada]

Three Abrahamic based religions that hate each other, now there are the true followers of a God of love. You'd think the way they act that they actually worship Satan.

The only ones who hate each other are ignorant extremists.

 

[surada]

Judaism is the basis of Islam, adjusted slightly for an Arab audience when Islam started in Arabia. Judaism and the Jewish Bible had already existed for well over 1,000 years before Muhammad, the purported founder of Islam, was born and adopted numerous Jewish beliefs and practices, as well as using the biblical texts for his Koran.

So, Muslims, without Jews, you wouldn’t even exist. You’re welcome!

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There were no large populations of Jews or anyone else in Arabia. Even in the 1950s the population was less than 1 million people. Exaggeration is the name of the game.

 

[JoeB131]

Judaism is the basis of Islam, adjusted slightly for an Arab audience when Islam started in Arabia. Judaism and the Jewish Bible had already existed for well over 1,000 years before Muhammad, the purported founder of Islam, was born and adopted numerous Jewish beliefs and practices, as well as using the biblical texts for his Koran.

So, Muslims, without Jews, you wouldn’t even exist. You’re welcome!

Not sure what your point is here. You have the three Abrahamic Religions- Judaism, Christianity and Islam, arguing over who their invisible friend in the sky loves best. None of the modern versions are anywhere near what was practiced in the bronze age.

All of them were influenced by other religions - such as Greek Platonism, Zoroasterism, Mithraism.

The ironic thing is you created an intolerant religions and spent the last 2000 years being oppressed by people who adopted parts of it.

The other ironic thing was the Islamic World didn't have much of a problem with you (compared to the Christian World) until you started stealing their land.

 

[MartyNYC]

There were no large populations of Jews or anyone else in Arabia. Even in the 1950s the population was less than 1 million people. Exaggeration is the name of the game.

Jews existed, in Arabia and elsewhere, long, long before Islam. The Koran acknowledges Jews as the authorities on scripture…

 

[MartyNYC]

Three Abrahamic based religions that hate each other, now there are the true followers of a God of love. You'd think the way they act that they actually worship Satan.

Abraham was Father of the Jews. Nothing to do with Muslims.

 

[surada]

Jews existed, in Arabia and elsewhere, long, long before Islam. The Koran acknowledges Jews as the authorities on scripture…


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Yes most Jews lived outside of Palestine by the first century.. in Persia, Mesopotamia, Libya, Alexandria, Aleppo, Baghdad, Damascus, Elephantine Island, Yemen and Arabia. The population in Arabia was tiny. Most were pagans and Nestorian Christians. Most Jews left Arabia and returned to Jericho.

 

[surada]

Abraham was Father of the Jews. Nothing to do with Muslims.

Abraham was also the father of Ishmael by Hagar the Egyptian and six sons by his Arab wife Keturah.

 

[ActionJackson]

There were no large populations of Jews or anyone else in Arabia. Even in the 1950s the population was less than 1 million people. Exaggeration is the name of the game.

Although I don't know if you realize it -- but there is more truth to your statement than you may think. Most of today's Jews can trace their lineage to the Khazar kingdom of the Steppes of Eastern Europe. Think Huns and Mongols. They converted to Judaism in the 7th & 8th centuries A.D. They converted to Judaism en masse and are not related to the biblical tribe of Judah.

Read "The Thirteenth Tribe" by the Jewish author, Arthur Koestler.

 

[MartyNYC]

Abraham was also the father of Ishmael by Hagar the Egyptian and six sons by his Arab wife Keturah.

Hagar wasn’t an Arab. She isn’t in the Arab Koran.

 

[MartyNYC]

Although I don't know if you realize it -- but there is more truth to your statement than you may think. Most of today's Jews can trace their lineage to the Khazar kingdom of the Steppes of Eastern Europe. Think Huns and Mongols. They converted to Judaism in the 7th & 8th centuries A.D. They converted to Judaism en masse and are not related to the biblical tribe of Judah.

Read "The Thirteenth Tribe" by the Jewish author, Arthur Koestler.

So, you admit you’re a moron. The “D” in your DNA stands for Dumbass.

Newsweek: The DNA of Abrahams Children, Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

Jews have historically considered themselves people of the book (am hasefer in Hebrew), referring to sacred tomes, but the phrase is turning out to have an equally powerful, if unintended, meaning: scientists are able to read Jewish genomes like a history book. The latest DNA volume weighs in on the controversial, centuries-old (and now revived in a 2008 book) claim that European Jews are all the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century. The DNA has spoken: no.

The DNA analysis undermines the claim that most of todays Jews, particularly the Ashkenazi, are the direct lineal descendants of converted Khazarswhich has angered many in the Jewish community as an implicit attack on the Jews claim to the land of Israel, since it implies that todays Jews have no blood ties to the original Jews of the Middle East. Instead, find the scientists, at most there was limited admixture with local populations, including Khazars and Slavs ... during the 1,000-year (second millennium) history of the European Jews.

Analysis of Jewish genomes has been yielding fascinating findings for more than a decade. A pioneer in this field, Michael Hammer of the University of Arizona, made the first big splash when he discovered that genetics supports the biblical account of a priestly family, the Cohanim, descended from Aaron, the brother of Moses: one specific genetic marker on the Y chromosome (which is passed on from father to son, as membership in the priestly family would be) is found in 98.5 percent of people who self-identify as Cohanim, he and colleagues reported in a 1997 paper in Nature (the PBS science series Nova did a nice segment on that work, summarized here). The Cohanim DNA has been found in both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, evidence that it predates the time when the two groups diverged, about 1,000 years ago. DNA can also be used to infer when particular genetic markers appeared, and suggests that the Cohanim emerged about 106 generations ago, making it fall during what is thought to be the period of the exodus from Egypt, and thus Aarons lifetime.

What We Can Learn From the Jewish Genome

 

[surada]

Hagar wasn’t an Arab. She isn’t in the Arab Koran.

Hagar was Egyptian. She is revered in Islam. You really are a pathetic person.

Hagar - New World Encyclopedia

www.newworldencyclopedia.org

 

[Moonglow]

Abraham was Father of the Jews. Nothing to do with Muslims.

Jews are but one tribe of Judah there were around eleven more tribes. The Muslims copied along with Christians the fundamental cast of characters of the Hebrews.

 

[surada]

So, you admit you’re a moron. The “D” in your DNA stands for Dumbass.

Newsweek: The DNA of Abrahams Children, Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

Jews have historically considered themselves people of the book (am hasefer in Hebrew), referring to sacred tomes, but the phrase is turning out to have an equally powerful, if unintended, meaning: scientists are able to read Jewish genomes like a history book. The latest DNA volume weighs in on the controversial, centuries-old (and now revived in a 2008 book) claim that European Jews are all the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century. The DNA has spoken: no.

The DNA analysis undermines the claim that most of todays Jews, particularly the Ashkenazi, are the direct lineal descendants of converted Khazarswhich has angered many in the Jewish community as an implicit attack on the Jews claim to the land of Israel, since it implies that todays Jews have no blood ties to the original Jews of the Middle East. Instead, find the scientists, at most there was limited admixture with local populations, including Khazars and Slavs ... during the 1,000-year (second millennium) history of the European Jews.

Analysis of Jewish genomes has been yielding fascinating findings for more than a decade. A pioneer in this field, Michael Hammer of the University of Arizona, made the first big splash when he discovered that genetics supports the biblical account of a priestly family, the Cohanim, descended from Aaron, the brother of Moses: one specific genetic marker on the Y chromosome (which is passed on from father to son, as membership in the priestly family would be) is found in 98.5 percent of people who self-identify as Cohanim, he and colleagues reported in a 1997 paper in Nature (the PBS science series Nova did a nice segment on that work, summarized here). The Cohanim DNA has been found in both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, evidence that it predates the time when the two groups diverged, about 1,000 years ago. DNA can also be used to infer when particular genetic markers appeared, and suggests that the Cohanim emerged about 106 generations ago, making it fall during what is thought to be the period of the exodus from Egypt, and thus Aarons lifetime.

What We Can Learn From the Jewish Genome

Nobody cares.

 

[ActionJackson]

So, you admit you’re a moron. The “D” in your DNA stands for Dumbass.

Newsweek: The DNA of Abrahams Children, Analysis of Jewish genomes refutes the Khazar claim.

Jews have historically considered themselves people of the book (am hasefer in Hebrew), referring to sacred tomes, but the phrase is turning out to have an equally powerful, if unintended, meaning: scientists are able to read Jewish genomes like a history book. The latest DNA volume weighs in on the controversial, centuries-old (and now revived in a 2008 book) claim that European Jews are all the descendants of Khazars, a Turkic group of the north Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the late eighth and early ninth century. The DNA has spoken: no.

The DNA analysis undermines the claim that most of todays Jews, particularly the Ashkenazi, are the direct lineal descendants of converted Khazarswhich has angered many in the Jewish community as an implicit attack on the Jews claim to the land of Israel, since it implies that todays Jews have no blood ties to the original Jews of the Middle East. Instead, find the scientists, at most there was limited admixture with local populations, including Khazars and Slavs ... during the 1,000-year (second millennium) history of the European Jews.

Analysis of Jewish genomes has been yielding fascinating findings for more than a decade. A pioneer in this field, Michael Hammer of the University of Arizona, made the first big splash when he discovered that genetics supports the biblical account of a priestly family, the Cohanim, descended from Aaron, the brother of Moses: one specific genetic marker on the Y chromosome (which is passed on from father to son, as membership in the priestly family would be) is found in 98.5 percent of people who self-identify as Cohanim, he and colleagues reported in a 1997 paper in Nature (the PBS science series Nova did a nice segment on that work, summarized here). The Cohanim DNA has been found in both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, evidence that it predates the time when the two groups diverged, about 1,000 years ago. DNA can also be used to infer when particular genetic markers appeared, and suggests that the Cohanim emerged about 106 generations ago, making it fall during what is thought to be the period of the exodus from Egypt, and thus Aarons lifetime.

What We Can Learn From the Jewish Genome

Three things:

1) You clearly haven't read "The Thirteenth Tribe" written by a respected Jewish historian.
2) You are the one claiming that Islam and Judaism are one-and-the-same (a claim I'm sure most modern Jews would refute).
3) Consider this article straight from the Jewish Encyclopedia: CHAZARS - JewishEncyclopedia.com

 

[MartyNYC]

Hagar was Egyptian. She is revered in Islam. You really are a pathetic person.

Hagar - New World Encyclopedia

www.newworldencyclopedia.org

Ancient Egyptians weren’t Arabs, you moron! Arabs invaded Egypt in the Middle Ages, 7th century CE. LOL!

 

[MartyNYC]

Three things:

1) You clearly haven't read "The Thirteenth Tribe" written by a respected Jewish historian.
2) You are the one claiming that Islam and Judaism are one-and-the-same (a claim I'm sure most modern Jews would refute).
3) Consider this article straight from the Jewish Encyclopedia: CHAZARS - JewishEncyclopedia.com

Respected? World-renowned historian Bernard Lewis: “The Khazar theory by an Austrian anthropologist is supported by no evidence whatsoever. It has been long abandoned by all serious scholars including those in Arab countries where it is little used except in occasional polemics.”

The D in your DNA stands for Dumbass.

“No Evidence from Genome-Wide Data of a Khazar Origin for the Ashkenazi Jews”

https://zero.sci-hub.se/2743/07865cf4f14d96278f06450c538e4339/behar2013.pdf?download=true

 

[ActionJackson]

Respected? World-renowned historian Bernard Lewis: “The Khazar theory by an Austrian anthropologist is supported by no evidence whatsoever. It has been long abandoned by all serious scholars including those in Arab countries where it is little used except in occasional polemics.”

Still ignoring the evidence provided. You want others to read your “evidence” as “proof” while ignoring any evidence that counters your pet narrative. So typical of the left mentality.