Musk says trump will crash the economy for our own good.

Do the math. Will you get enough from the rich and corporations to even close the deficit, much less pay off the debt? Go past the feelz.
Am I to take it from your disagreement, Hector12, that you don't like to do math and prefer feelz?
 
Supply side economics did not work. Let's try soaking the rich.
Do the math. How much do you think you're going to get from the rich and corporations after they move everything overseas so you can't get at it compared to how much you need just to close the deficit? Quit going by feelz!
 
So, we continue are decline. China has got the eye of the tiger now. If a TV is 100 dollars, spending 20 dollars more for it if it is that may get a manufacturer to build them here and employ people. We may even see American owners again at some point. Teh rise of nations is like what China is doing. The fall of nations is what we are doing. We started mighty high. Nations that fall usually do not go silently. We had two World Wars when England declined, and they were English speaking like us. China is a whole different culture.
It won't bring manufacturing back. A Chinese factory worker makes about six bucks an hour, and that's good compared to some other low wage places. Skilled labour as in American manufacturing today makes in the low twenties an hour. It's not profitable. And that's why it ain't gonna happen.
 
Trump and Musk aren’t going to give.

I don’t know if Trump is a dictator. I know he’s a garbage negotiator and fundamentally dishonest.
You dont know trump or musk

They will deal

Its your side we have to worry about
 
You dont know trump or musk

They will deal

Its your side we have to worry about
All we have to do is look at what happened last time.

Trump said his tax bill will be bad for him and increase his taxes. Then we saw the bill and it was the opposite.

We saw how Trump negotiated with Dems last time. He refused any compromise and bailed.
 
So you want to cut social security security and Medicare

What a surprise
I dont want to

But a small reduction over time can save the whole budget from implosion somewhere down the road
 
I heard him say if they win they will be looking into people drawing SSI and SSDI, reviewing their files and anyone they deem who could work either will work or lose the government bennies.
I did not hear those words from trump directly

But I bet there is a lot of waste, fraud and abuse that could go to people who should get it instead of welfare bums milking the system
 
I did not hear those words from trump directly

But I bet there is a lot of waste, fraud and abuse that could go to people who should get it instead of welfare bums milking the system
I’ve been hearing that same “waste fraud and abuse “ thing for decades

It’s bullshit
 
I’ve been hearing that same “waste fraud and abuse “ thing for decades

It’s bullshit
If you dont know government programs are wasteful you have led a sheltered life
 
He says High prices and economic collapse are the price of the trump agenda.

Are you guys really gonna vote for this just to "own the libs"?

It would be the biggest self-own in history to crash your own country's economy on purpose just to be able to say you won.


There is a Donald in your short term future.
 
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Do the math. How much do you think you're going to get from the rich and corporations after they move everything overseas so you can't get at it compared to how much you need just to close the deficit? Quit going by feelz!

European countries will tax them more heavily than American countries.
 
A 1% reduction is not burning Medicare down

Making hysterical rants is pointless
Tell you what. Take all you want out of YOUR Social Security and Medicare.

Leave mine the **** alone
 
He says High prices and economic collapse are the price of the trump agenda.

Are you guys really gonna vote for this just to "own the libs"?

It would be the biggest self-own in history to crash your own country's economy on purpose just to be able to say you won.

I'm fine with that.
 

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