Musk says trump will crash the economy for our own good.

[Harpy Eagle]

Your neighbors

My neighbor are kicking ass. I live on a street with about 23 homes on it that we moved to in 2022. Between my wife and I we will come close to making 300k this year....and we are pretty much the poorest people on the street.

I can promise you none of them are worried bout buying food or gas.

Sorry your life is sucking, but for most of us it is not

 

[Marener]

You don't get workers by opening the border and allowing 20 million people to walk in who we do not know....

People walking across the border definitely do want and get jobs.

You clearly believe a lot of lies about immigration. 20 million people haven’t come into the country. It’s a fraction of that number.

 

[Mac-7]

How many more people will be on social security next year? Don’t forget you’re supposed to get a COLA each year too, but not anymore!

Now copound that by 10 years and next thing you know, you’re benefits are a third of what they would have been.

Since you failed to answer my questions in post #130 I am not going to answer yours now

 

[Rambunctious]

This will blow your tiny little cult member mind...but people struggled under Trump as well.

People did struggle despite the good economy of Trump's term... but more are hurting now due to high prices for everything... not just food and gas but utilities and clothing homes... rent and purchase price... I could go on and on...
I belong to an internet neighborhood and read over and over about people losing their rentals and begging for help to find a new place they can afford in our town...
Single mothers in tears older people price hunting at the meat counter young school age kids putting 20 bucks in their tank to get to school for two days... and the empty stores of Obama's economy are back... restaurant closures almost daily... so get out and look around for a change...

 

[Rambunctious]

People walking across the border definitely do want and get jobs.

You clearly believe a lot of lies about immigration. 20 million people haven’t come into the country. It’s a fraction of that number.

I don't care what they want... there is a right way and a wrong way to everything... why do you want to undermine wages here is my question...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

People did struggle despite the good economy of Trump's term...

just as they are now struggle despite the good economy of Biden's term

As I said above, with the sole exception of inflation, there is no economic measure under Trump that was better than they are now under Biden.

Those are just the facts

 

[Rambunctious]

just as they are now struggle despite the good economy of Biden's term

As I said above, with the sole exception of inflation, there is no economic measure under Trump that was better than they are now under Biden.

Those are just the facts

Okay sloppy Seagal... whatever you say...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Okay sloppy Seagal... whatever you say...

Show me one that is not....just one.

 

[Marener]

What kind of tax increases, on who and how much?

Just missed it.

I don’t have an exact plan and it’s silly to demand one given you don’t demand any such thing of people actually running for office.

If I could, I’d end corporate tax. Tax all income as regular income. End the income cap on social security tax. Increase number of tax brackets.

 

[Marener]

I don't care what they want... there is a right way and a wrong way to everything... why do you want to undermine wages here is my question...

Wages for these difficult jobs are already pretty good. There’s already a labor shortage in these industries.

That’s one reason why inflation is so high.

But I guess you want more inflation?

 

[Marener]

Since you failed to answer my questions in post #130 I am not going to answer yours now

I didn’t really ask you a question. It was rhetorical. You don’t really understand how the budget works if you think you can just freeze it and it’ll be fine.

 

[Mac-7]

Just missed it.

I don’t have an exact plan and it’s silly to demand one given you don’t demand any such thing of people actually running for office.

If I could, I’d end corporate tax. Tax all income as regular income. End the income cap on social security tax. Increase number of tax brackets.

You mean no one except Musk and Trump

You have detailed objections to their plan before the details are even known yet

Beginning with the belief that it will never happen anyway

But fiscal responsibility such as living within our means rather then deficit spending is a worthy goal worth striving for

How about one dollar of tac increase for every dollar of spending cuts?

 

[Marener]

You mean no one except Musk and Trump

You have detailed objections to their plan before the details are even known yet

Beginning with the belief that it will never happen anyway

But fiscal responsibility such as living within our means rather then deficit spending is a worthy goal worth striving for

How about one dollar of tac increase for every dollar of spending cuts?

Ha! Since when have you demanded any details from these guys? Musk won’t say anything about what is going to be cut, just that it’s so easy. Trump has policies so vague they’re not even policies. Just concepts.

In a sane country, we would run deficits when the economy is bad and not when the economy is good.

Yet every time we get close to closing the budget deficit, Republicans think we need to lower taxes. Bush did it. Trump did it. They all do it.

 

[Mac-7]

Ha! Since when have you demanded any details from these guys? Musk won’t say anything about what is going to be cut, just that it’s so easy. Trump has policies so vague they’re not even policies. Just concepts.

In a sane country, we would run deficits when the economy is bad and not when the economy is good.

Yet every time we get close to closing the budget deficit, Republicans think we need to lower taxes. Bush did it. Trump did it. They all do it.

Everything has to be worked out

A little give, a little take

You think trump is a dictator but we know better

 

[Rambunctious]

Wages for these difficult jobs are already pretty good. There’s already a labor shortage in these industries.

That’s one reason why inflation is so high.

But I guess you want more inflation?

An entire meat packing plant laid off hundreds of people during covid and two months later they hired Hattians at half the cost... is this what you want?...

 

[toomuchtime_]

Do you doubt that Trump will impose tariffs on all imported goods?
Do you doubt that Trump will implement his mass deportation plan?
Do you doubt that Trump will extend his tax cut and cut the corporate tax some more?
Do you doubt that Trump will cut SS and Medicare benefits?

Trump will impose tariffs on some imported goods to make US manufactured goods more price competitive and thus create more good paying US Jobs.

Trump will implement a deportation plan, but practical realities will make the hysterical nonsense Harris is trying to sell impossible.

The only tax cuts I have seen Trump announce are no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, No tax on SS.

Trump has been clear that he will not cut SS or Medicare.

 

[Marener]

Everything has to be worked out

A little give, a little take

You think trump is a dictator but we know better

Trump and Musk aren’t going to give.

I don’t know if Trump is a dictator. I know he’s a garbage negotiator and fundamentally dishonest.

 

[Marener]

An entire meat packing plant laid off hundreds of people during covid and two months later they hired Hattians at half the cost... is this what you want?...

Ha! The people they laid off probably were illegal immigrants.

What’s your source?

 

[Arlette]

Trump will impose tariffs on some imported goods to make US manufactured goods more price competitive and thus create more good paying US Jobs.

Trump will implement a deportation plan, but practical realities will make the hysterical nonsense Harris is trying to sell impossible.

The only tax cuts I have seen Trump announce are no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, No tax on SS.

Trump has been clear that he will not cut SS or Medicare.

Nah. All imported goods. Coffee ain't gonna get more competitive, just more expensive.

Practical realities like Mexico not paying for his wall like the last time Trumpy made big promises on immigration. And then he couldn't even get the Turtle to give him the money. That's why he hates the Turtle and his wife.

Trump will cut the corporate tax rate down to 18 %. He's gonna ask for 15% and congress will give him 18.

 

[Rambunctious]

Nah. All imported goods. Coffee ain't gonna get more competitive, just more expensive.

Practical realities like Mexico not paying for his wall like the last time Trumpy made big promises on immigration. And then he couldn't even get the Turtle to give him the money. That's why he hates the Turtle and his wife.

Trump will cut the corporate tax rate down to 18 %. He's gonna ask for 15% and congress will give him 18.

Trump will do what he did in 2016... make us great again....