"Mummy my tummy hurts" - How guns keep you safe.

[hadit]

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

The old false sense of security over freedom argument.

Its not an "argument". "Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk. You are slaves to your guns like scared old men.I breath free Welsh air every day. I go where I like free from fear and sleep soundly every night cuddled up to Mrs T. You sleep with your guns and cant go to worship without armed guards.

Ya gotta love it when people think they can read minds. Here's a clue for you. I don't have any guns, but I breath free air every day and can go buy and own one IF I WANT TO. I don't have or need armed guards to live my life, because I know that there are going to be armed citizens around me pretty much everywhere I go, and if an idiot starts shooting, he's likely to end up shot himself before he can do much damage. Guess where I will be in the most danger today? I'll tell you. It will be tonight when I'm in a school gymnasium, watching my grandson's basketball game. I'll leave it up to you to figure out why that's the most dangerous place to be.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Its not an "argument". "Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk.

Being a victim of a criminal isn't much use to live folks.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders.

In other countries, those victims just have to sit there and endure the rapes, robberies and murders.....

Then why does the US have more rapes, robberies and murders than other cou

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

The old false sense of security over freedom argument.

Its not an "argument". "Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk. You are slaves to your guns like scared old men.I breath free Welsh air every day. I go where I like free from fear and sleep soundly every night cuddled up to Mrs T. You sleep with your guns and cant go to worship without armed guards.

you have no real rights your government can take any perceived right you think you have away with a simple vote.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders.

In other countries, those victims just have to sit there and endure the rapes, robberies and murders.....

Then why does the US have more rapes, robberies and murders than other cou

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

The old false sense of security over freedom argument.

Its not an "argument". "Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk. You are slaves to your guns like scared old men.I breath free Welsh air every day. I go where I like free from fear and sleep soundly every night cuddled up to Mrs T. You sleep with your guns and cant go to worship without armed guards.

you have no real rights your government can take any perceived right you think you have away with a simple vote.

Mate you are so fucked up and you dont know it.

 

[progressive hunter]

1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders.

In other countries, those victims just have to sit there and endure the rapes, robberies and murders.....

Then why does the US have more rapes, robberies and murders than other cou

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

The old false sense of security over freedom argument.

Its not an "argument". "Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk. You are slaves to your guns like scared old men.I breath free Welsh air every day. I go where I like free from fear and sleep soundly every night cuddled up to Mrs T. You sleep with your guns and cant go to worship without armed guards.

you have no real rights your government can take any perceived right you think you have away with a simple vote.

Mate you are so fucked up and you dont know it.

what he said is true,, you just dont want to admit to yourself youre a subject not a human being,,

 

[Bob Blaylock]

"Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk.

It's apparently not much use to the British. That is why my ancestors fought so hard and sacrificed so much, twice, more than two centuries ago, to kick your ancestors' asses.

 

[2aguy]

The US was liberated by thr help of France. If they didn't enter world War 2 you would also be speaking German now.

The French were the difference between the Allies winning and losing?
The French entered WWII? On what date?

Dude I love this country and I would fight for it, but most Americans live worse than their counter parts in many industrial countries.

Cool story!
Can you show our median income vs. the median income of your "many industrial countries"?

Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.
We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.
We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.
We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

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Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.

Unless the government is somehow creating those things out of thin air, you're paying for them out of your income via taxes.

We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.

Homelessness......maybe. Ending institutionalization wasn't such a good idea.
Unemployment...... what are you talking about?

We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

What are we supposed to do with our criminals?
Letting them run free wouldn't help most Americans live better.

We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

Not like Cuba, eh?

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France. Very happy population hardly any homeless, healthy individuals, great infrastructure, 5 to 6 weeks vacation a year, easy and cheaper access to higher education, no one goes bankrupt if they have to go to the hospital,

Dude the minute you exit the airport you see the contrast.

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France.

So what are their median incomes?
Maybe their after-tax incomes?

Very happy population

Smaller homes, fewer, smaller cars, lower standards of living.

The US was liberated by thr help of France. If they didn't enter world War 2 you would also be speaking German now.

The French were the difference between the Allies winning and losing?
The French entered WWII? On what date?

Dude I love this country and I would fight for it, but most Americans live worse than their counter parts in many industrial countries.

Cool story!
Can you show our median income vs. the median income of your "many industrial countries"?

Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.
We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.
We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.
We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

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Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.

Unless the government is somehow creating those things out of thin air, you're paying for them out of your income via taxes.

We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.

Homelessness......maybe. Ending institutionalization wasn't such a good idea.
Unemployment...... what are you talking about?

We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

What are we supposed to do with our criminals?
Letting them run free wouldn't help most Americans live better.

We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

Not like Cuba, eh?

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France. Very happy population hardly any homeless, healthy individuals, great infrastructure, 5 to 6 weeks vacation a year, easy and cheaper access to higher education, no one goes bankrupt if they have to go to the hospital,

Dude the minute you exit the airport you see the contrast.

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France.

So what are their median incomes?
Maybe their after-tax incomes?

Very happy population

Smaller homes, fewer, smaller cars, lower standards of living.

Norway 51k
Denmark 43k
Germany 48k

Again it doesn't tell the whole story, most Europeans have better quality life than Americans. Thry rank better than Americans in education, health, happiness, life expectancy, etc...

Dude apart from some nice areas in big cities most homes in the US are old and beat up. Houses in Tennessee and Ohio that go for 40 to 50k where most people live. As far as cars, you don't need it in Europe they have a good transportation systems.

Norway 51k

How much of their GDP is state owned oil?

Dude apart from some nice areas in big cities most homes in the US are old and beat up.

Lots of brand new homes in Norway, Denmark and Germany?

How does square footage compare?

As far as cars, you don't need it in Europe they have a good transportation systems.

Plus, gas is what, triple what we pay? More?

One of the biggest positives is that you can go to the shops without being shot and send your kids to school without them being slaughtered.

You focus on the material and that seems to be a conservative trait. Quality of life cannot be measured by just one metric.

Not in majority Muslim areas and remind us having your head hacked off is better then being shot.

Yes , the whole European experience can be summed up by one awful incident a decade ago. Can you dress yourself in the morning you fuckwit ?

one incident I guess all the attacks in France and Belgium and Germany never happened right? No no go zones in all European Countries right boob?

Name these no go zones ? I used to work in one that fox news described as such. The fact is that all of the countries you named are safer than the US. Stats dont lie but gun nuts do.

No, actually, they are not.......outside of democrat party controlled cities, the U.S. is as safe or safer than European countries, and the European countries are growing more and more dangerous each year.....as the 3rd world immigrants take control of organized crime.......

For England and Wales, we added together three crime categories: "violence against the person, with injury," "most serious sexual crime," and "robbery." This produced a rate of 775 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

For the United States, we used the FBI’s four standard categories for violent crime that Bier cited. We came up with a rate of 383 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

Social media post says U.K. has far higher violent crime rate than U.S. does

The debate over gun policy has inspired a blizzard of messages on social media, from both supporters and opponents of gu

www.politifact.com

And when you talk about gun violence, the majority of gun murder victims...over 70-80% of the victims, are not normal Americans.....they are criminals, murdered by other criminals in democrat party controlled cities.....and of the rest, the vast majority of gun murder victims are the friends and family...and sadly children, of career criminals and gang members murdered when they are caught in the murder attempt on the actual criminal....

As John Nolte puts it over at Breitbart....in MAGA country, we have guns, we just don't have gun crime....but in blue states and blue cities, they have almost all of the gun murder.....

You don't understand America Tommy, and you will understand gun violence, it is coming to Britain and the rest of Europe...

I'm so glad I didn't grow up as a kid in thr US, we had 0 fear of getting kidnapped, shot or molested unlike most American kids....you won't know what I'm talking about, you grew up in a very Hostile and tough environment, that you need a gun to feel safe.

2015, there were 13 723 nonfatal and 2762 fatal firearm injuries in children and adolescents <20 years of age in the United States.1 Deaths from firearms now rank among the top 3 causes of death in the pediatric population.1–3 In previous research, it has been identified that male sex, nonwhite race, low median income, and older adolescent age are risk factors for sustaining both fatal and nonfatal firearm injuries2,4–10; these data, however, are largely driven by firearm assaults in urban settings. In 2 previous studies, it has been demonstrated that fatality rates due to firearms for urban and rural counties are essentially equivalent both in the overall population and specifically in children and adolescents.11,12 Rural and urban differences have been noted regarding the cause of injury or death, with suicide and unintentional firearm deaths occurring at a higher rate in rural counties and deaths from firearm homicide occurring at a higher rate in urban counties.11,12

Rural Versus Urban Hospitalizations for Firearm Injuries in Children and Adolescents

In this study, we compare rates of hospitalizations for firearm injuries in children and adolescents between rural and urban areas of the United States.

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Yeah...you are an idiot...

In 2019, there were 37 accidental gun deaths for children under 11 years of age. Past research has shown that most of those involve shots from adult males, most in the mid to late 20s, who also have criminal records and are very likely to be drug addicts or alcoholics. So with 43.8 million children in that age range, the probability of a young child getting ahold of a gun and accidentally shooting another child is incredibly small. With half of the American homes owning guns, that implies a 0.00017 percent chance of a child dying from an accidental gunshot in those homes.

Entertainment TV Shows Keep Pushing Lies About Guns

The lessons from these entertainment shows are clear. Dont try to use a gun for protection, and its better not to even think of owning one.

townhall.com

Again....



578 children under the age of 11 died by accidental drowning...

9 people dead again. Never seing that happen in most of the world, this shit only happens in the US and some worn drug torncountries.
But according to idiots like you,, it is normal millions of crimes were stopped. Dumbest argument ever.

Honestly, some if those idiots use mass slaughter figures as a by product of maintaining their freedom and weapons. It's a type of collateral damage.
Every country in world can see what the problem is but America.

You mean like Europe...where they took guns away from their citizens, then allowed the German socialists to murder 12 million innocent....unarmed, men, women and children?

You mean like that?

 

[2aguy]

1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders.

In other countries, those victims just have to sit there and endure the rapes, robberies and murders.....

Then why does the US have more rapes, robberies and murders than other countries?

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The democrat party judges and prosecutors keep releasing the rapists....

Meanwhile, Americans use their legal guns to stop violent beatings, violent rapes, robberies and murders, on average, 1.1 million times a year according to the Centers for Disease Control.....and the Department of Justice puts that number at 1.5 million times a year....

 

[2aguy]

and the violent crime in the UK has skyrocketed,,,

Yeah, that's what you guys keep claiming, it's just not true.

If only we could adopt the American system where guns prevent murder and keep you safe ?

1.1 million times a year safe.....according to the Centers for Disease Control...

Don't worry tommy....London is already unsafe for women and girls and the 3rd world gangs are getting all the guns they want....

 

[2aguy]

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

And the other owners of 600 million privately owned guns, and the over 19.4 million Americans who can legally carry guns in public for self defense didn't accidentally leave their guns out....while the majority of these accidents happen because the ones leaving the guns out are actual criminals..who can't legally own, buy, or carry guns...

Don't worry tommy...your country is going to see this...just ask the blm racist in Britain who was shot in the head at a party in your country...

 

[2aguy]

If only we could adopt the American system where guns prevent murder and keep you safe ?

It's something we on the right have been telling you on the left for a long time. Guns don't jump out of gun safes or dresser drawers and kill people. People use guns to kill people. Taking firearms away from law abiding citizens won't help much. In fact that would make things worse because that would cause an increase in crime, and yes, even murders.

Your comparisons are faulty as well. We are much more diverse than anyplace in Europe. People of color are the largest group of violent offenders in the US. You can't compare a virtually all white country with ours because people are different.

In other words here in the US, you take two cities. One city is a nice quiet white suburb with very little violent crime. Now you make a law that every home must have a firearm in it. Their crime statistics won't change. Do the opposite in a very violent black city, create a law that bans all guns, their crime rate won't change either. It will still be a violent and unsafe environment. Why is that? Because it's the people who commit the crimes, not the guns.

More recently you look at Commiefornia. They have the most strictest gun laws in the country. They just had a mass shooting that left 9 people dead. Wait a minute, how could that happen with such stringent gun laws? Plus the fact California has been host to other mass shootings in the past.

Black males are 7% of the U.S. population, but young black males commit over 50% of all murder...primarily in democrat party controlled states and cities...

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The democrat party judges and prosecutors keep releasing the rapists....

And Incel Joe consistently expresses agreement with allowing dangerous criminals to go free.

But then, you can expect a subhuman criminal piece of shit to side with his own kind.

 

[2aguy]

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

The old false sense of security over freedom argument.

Its not an "argument". "Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk. You are slaves to your guns like scared old men.I breath free Welsh air every day. I go where I like free from fear and sleep soundly every night cuddled up to Mrs T. You sleep with your guns and cant go to worship without armed guards.

In the U.S. we had 10,234 gun murders in 2019.

Of those over 70-80% of the victims were criminals murdered by other criminals......of the rest of the victims, they were associates, friends and family of criminals, and almost all of these murders occurred in democrat party controlled cities...where they release violent, repeat gun offenders over and over again..

so if you aren't a criminal, aren't an associate, friend or family member of a criminal and don't live in a democrat party controlled state or city....your chances of getting murdered with a gun are just about zero, and lower than in Europe..

In MAGA country in the U.S. we have lots and lots of guns...we just don't use them to shoot other people or to commit crimes.....

Meanwhile, iin Europe.....you took guns away from your people to make them safer....then you handed those people over to the German socialists who murdered 12 million innocent..... not criminals, but innocent....men, women and children...

This number is higher than all of our murders in the U.S. combined.....

You just want your governments to murder innocent people rather than having criminals murder other criminals...

 

[2aguy]

1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders.

In other countries, those victims just have to sit there and endure the rapes, robberies and murders.....

Then why does the US have more rapes, robberies and murders than other cou

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

The old false sense of security over freedom argument.

Its not an "argument". "Freedom" isnt much use to dead folk. You are slaves to your guns like scared old men.I breath free Welsh air every day. I go where I like free from fear and sleep soundly every night cuddled up to Mrs T. You sleep with your guns and cant go to worship without armed guards.

you have no real rights your government can take any perceived right you think you have away with a simple vote.

Mate you are so fucked up and you dont know it.

As you sit there while your 3rd world gangs....who do not value western culture or values and who definitely do not fear British police.......flood your country with illegal guns to defend their drug turf....

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

1.1 million times a year safe.....according to the Centers for Disease Control...

Don't worry tommy....London is already unsafe for women and girls and the 3rd world gangs are getting all the guns they want....

A few years ago London had a higher murder rate than NYC. They did so with knives. Knives are illegal to carry in London, but as expected, that didn't bother the criminals. What they ended up with was an armed criminal element, and a disarmed society. Now they think that's a great idea for us to do here, only with guns.

 

[2aguy]

1.1 million times a year safe.....according to the Centers for Disease Control...

Don't worry tommy....London is already unsafe for women and girls and the 3rd world gangs are getting all the guns they want....

A few years ago London had a higher murder rate than NYC. They did so with knives. Knives are illegal to carry in London, but as expected, that didn't bother the criminals. What they ended up with was an armed criminal element, and a disarmed society. Now they think that's a great idea for us to do here, only with guns.

In the 1960s our criminals transitioned from knives to guns.......Britain, now has the same issue...their criminals are transitioning from knives and swords to guns...as their new, 3rd world drug gangs ramp up the violence...

 

[Tommy Tainant]

1.1 million times a year safe.....according to the Centers for Disease Control...

Don't worry tommy....London is already unsafe for women and girls and the 3rd world gangs are getting all the guns they want....

A few years ago London had a higher murder rate than NYC. They did so with knives. Knives are illegal to carry in London, but as expected, that didn't bother the criminals. What they ended up with was an armed criminal element, and a disarmed society. Now they think that's a great idea for us to do here, only with guns.

In the 1960s our criminals transitioned from knives to guns.......Britain, now has the same issue...their criminals are transitioning from knives and swords to guns...as their new, 3rd world drug gangs ramp up the violence...

You have been spouting the same shit in the 5 years I have been on this board. Its always tomorrow isnt it ? When can I expect our murder rates to match those ? When can I expect them to be half of yours ? When will all of Europe reach parity with the US ? When will Australia and New Zealand get as bad as the US ?

You have a weak case but you persist with it regardless . You are a ******* clown.

 

[Colin norris]

The US was liberated by thr help of France. If they didn't enter world War 2 you would also be speaking German now.

The French were the difference between the Allies winning and losing?
The French entered WWII? On what date?

Dude I love this country and I would fight for it, but most Americans live worse than their counter parts in many industrial countries.

Cool story!
Can you show our median income vs. the median income of your "many industrial countries"?

Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.
We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.
We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.
We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

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Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.

Unless the government is somehow creating those things out of thin air, you're paying for them out of your income via taxes.

We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.

Homelessness......maybe. Ending institutionalization wasn't such a good idea.
Unemployment...... what are you talking about?

We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

What are we supposed to do with our criminals?
Letting them run free wouldn't help most Americans live better.

We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

Not like Cuba, eh?

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France. Very happy population hardly any homeless, healthy individuals, great infrastructure, 5 to 6 weeks vacation a year, easy and cheaper access to higher education, no one goes bankrupt if they have to go to the hospital,

Dude the minute you exit the airport you see the contrast.

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France.

So what are their median incomes?
Maybe their after-tax incomes?

Very happy population

Smaller homes, fewer, smaller cars, lower standards of living.

The US was liberated by thr help of France. If they didn't enter world War 2 you would also be speaking German now.

The French were the difference between the Allies winning and losing?
The French entered WWII? On what date?

Dude I love this country and I would fight for it, but most Americans live worse than their counter parts in many industrial countries.

Cool story!
Can you show our median income vs. the median income of your "many industrial countries"?

Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.
We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.
We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.
We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

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Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.

Unless the government is somehow creating those things out of thin air, you're paying for them out of your income via taxes.

We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.

Homelessness......maybe. Ending institutionalization wasn't such a good idea.
Unemployment...... what are you talking about?

We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

What are we supposed to do with our criminals?
Letting them run free wouldn't help most Americans live better.

We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

Not like Cuba, eh?

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France. Very happy population hardly any homeless, healthy individuals, great infrastructure, 5 to 6 weeks vacation a year, easy and cheaper access to higher education, no one goes bankrupt if they have to go to the hospital,

Dude the minute you exit the airport you see the contrast.

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France.

So what are their median incomes?
Maybe their after-tax incomes?

Very happy population

Smaller homes, fewer, smaller cars, lower standards of living.

Norway 51k
Denmark 43k
Germany 48k

Again it doesn't tell the whole story, most Europeans have better quality life than Americans. Thry rank better than Americans in education, health, happiness, life expectancy, etc...

Dude apart from some nice areas in big cities most homes in the US are old and beat up. Houses in Tennessee and Ohio that go for 40 to 50k where most people live. As far as cars, you don't need it in Europe they have a good transportation systems.

Norway 51k

How much of their GDP is state owned oil?

Dude apart from some nice areas in big cities most homes in the US are old and beat up.

Lots of brand new homes in Norway, Denmark and Germany?

How does square footage compare?

As far as cars, you don't need it in Europe they have a good transportation systems.

Plus, gas is what, triple what we pay? More?

One of the biggest positives is that you can go to the shops without being shot and send your kids to school without them being slaughtered.

You focus on the material and that seems to be a conservative trait. Quality of life cannot be measured by just one metric.

Not in majority Muslim areas and remind us having your head hacked off is better then being shot.

Yes , the whole European experience can be summed up by one awful incident a decade ago. Can you dress yourself in the morning you fuckwit ?

one incident I guess all the attacks in France and Belgium and Germany never happened right? No no go zones in all European Countries right boob?

Name these no go zones ? I used to work in one that fox news described as such. The fact is that all of the countries you named are safer than the US. Stats dont lie but gun nuts do.

No, actually, they are not.......outside of democrat party controlled cities, the U.S. is as safe or safer than European countries, and the European countries are growing more and more dangerous each year.....as the 3rd world immigrants take control of organized crime.......

For England and Wales, we added together three crime categories: "violence against the person, with injury," "most serious sexual crime," and "robbery." This produced a rate of 775 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

For the United States, we used the FBI’s four standard categories for violent crime that Bier cited. We came up with a rate of 383 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

Social media post says U.K. has far higher violent crime rate than U.S. does

The debate over gun policy has inspired a blizzard of messages on social media, from both supporters and opponents of gu

www.politifact.com

And when you talk about gun violence, the majority of gun murder victims...over 70-80% of the victims, are not normal Americans.....they are criminals, murdered by other criminals in democrat party controlled cities.....and of the rest, the vast majority of gun murder victims are the friends and family...and sadly children, of career criminals and gang members murdered when they are caught in the murder attempt on the actual criminal....

As John Nolte puts it over at Breitbart....in MAGA country, we have guns, we just don't have gun crime....but in blue states and blue cities, they have almost all of the gun murder.....

You don't understand America Tommy, and you will understand gun violence, it is coming to Britain and the rest of Europe...

I'm so glad I didn't grow up as a kid in thr US, we had 0 fear of getting kidnapped, shot or molested unlike most American kids....you won't know what I'm talking about, you grew up in a very Hostile and tough environment, that you need a gun to feel safe.

2015, there were 13 723 nonfatal and 2762 fatal firearm injuries in children and adolescents <20 years of age in the United States.1 Deaths from firearms now rank among the top 3 causes of death in the pediatric population.1–3 In previous research, it has been identified that male sex, nonwhite race, low median income, and older adolescent age are risk factors for sustaining both fatal and nonfatal firearm injuries2,4–10; these data, however, are largely driven by firearm assaults in urban settings. In 2 previous studies, it has been demonstrated that fatality rates due to firearms for urban and rural counties are essentially equivalent both in the overall population and specifically in children and adolescents.11,12 Rural and urban differences have been noted regarding the cause of injury or death, with suicide and unintentional firearm deaths occurring at a higher rate in rural counties and deaths from firearm homicide occurring at a higher rate in urban counties.11,12

Rural Versus Urban Hospitalizations for Firearm Injuries in Children and Adolescents

In this study, we compare rates of hospitalizations for firearm injuries in children and adolescents between rural and urban areas of the United States.

pediatrics.aappublications.org

Yeah...you are an idiot...

In 2019, there were 37 accidental gun deaths for children under 11 years of age. Past research has shown that most of those involve shots from adult males, most in the mid to late 20s, who also have criminal records and are very likely to be drug addicts or alcoholics. So with 43.8 million children in that age range, the probability of a young child getting ahold of a gun and accidentally shooting another child is incredibly small. With half of the American homes owning guns, that implies a 0.00017 percent chance of a child dying from an accidental gunshot in those homes.

Entertainment TV Shows Keep Pushing Lies About Guns

The lessons from these entertainment shows are clear. Dont try to use a gun for protection, and its better not to even think of owning one.

townhall.com

Again....



578 children under the age of 11 died by accidental drowning...

9 people dead again. Never seing that happen in most of the world, this shit only happens in the US and some worn drug torncountries.
But according to idiots like you,, it is normal millions of crimes were stopped. Dumbest argument ever.

Honestly, some if those idiots use mass slaughter figures as a by product of maintaining their freedom and weapons. It's a type of collateral damage.
Every country in world can see what the problem is but America.

You mean like Europe...where they took guns away from their citizens, then allowed the German socialists to murder 12 million innocent....unarmed, men, women and children?

You mean like that?

No. There was no gun eradication programme. They had none from the beginning.

You live in a dream if you think civilians will be called to eradicate communist takeovers. What a joke. What a pathetic justification to cover for mass slaughter every week and 1 kid killed by guns every day.
Don't blurt your rubbish to me.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The US was liberated by thr help of France. If they didn't enter world War 2 you would also be speaking German now.

The French were the difference between the Allies winning and losing?
The French entered WWII? On what date?

Dude I love this country and I would fight for it, but most Americans live worse than their counter parts in many industrial countries.

Cool story!
Can you show our median income vs. the median income of your "many industrial countries"?

Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.
We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.
We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.
We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

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Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.

Unless the government is somehow creating those things out of thin air, you're paying for them out of your income via taxes.

We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.

Homelessness......maybe. Ending institutionalization wasn't such a good idea.
Unemployment...... what are you talking about?

We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

What are we supposed to do with our criminals?
Letting them run free wouldn't help most Americans live better.

We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

Not like Cuba, eh?

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France. Very happy population hardly any homeless, healthy individuals, great infrastructure, 5 to 6 weeks vacation a year, easy and cheaper access to higher education, no one goes bankrupt if they have to go to the hospital,

Dude the minute you exit the airport you see the contrast.

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France.

So what are their median incomes?
Maybe their after-tax incomes?

Very happy population

Smaller homes, fewer, smaller cars, lower standards of living.

The US was liberated by thr help of France. If they didn't enter world War 2 you would also be speaking German now.

The French were the difference between the Allies winning and losing?
The French entered WWII? On what date?

Dude I love this country and I would fight for it, but most Americans live worse than their counter parts in many industrial countries.

Cool story!
Can you show our median income vs. the median income of your "many industrial countries"?

Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.
We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.
We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.
We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

video newsroom what is so good about america - Search Videos

Watch videos instantly on Bing—enjoy direct playback, discover related clips, and dive into trending content all in one place.

www.bing.com

Not entirely fair since income does not matter that much if you have things like free public heath care, reasonable housing, subsidized food, etc.

Unless the government is somehow creating those things out of thin air, you're paying for them out of your income via taxes.

We likely have more homelessness, unemployment, etc., than most countries.

Homelessness......maybe. Ending institutionalization wasn't such a good idea.
Unemployment...... what are you talking about?

We for sure have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

What are we supposed to do with our criminals?
Letting them run free wouldn't help most Americans live better.

We are not even very good at literacy, infant mortality, or life span.

Not like Cuba, eh?

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France. Very happy population hardly any homeless, healthy individuals, great infrastructure, 5 to 6 weeks vacation a year, easy and cheaper access to higher education, no one goes bankrupt if they have to go to the hospital,

Dude the minute you exit the airport you see the contrast.

You probably haven't visited thr likes of Norway, Denmark, Germany, Japan and even France.

So what are their median incomes?
Maybe their after-tax incomes?

Very happy population

Smaller homes, fewer, smaller cars, lower standards of living.

Norway 51k
Denmark 43k
Germany 48k

Again it doesn't tell the whole story, most Europeans have better quality life than Americans. Thry rank better than Americans in education, health, happiness, life expectancy, etc...

Dude apart from some nice areas in big cities most homes in the US are old and beat up. Houses in Tennessee and Ohio that go for 40 to 50k where most people live. As far as cars, you don't need it in Europe they have a good transportation systems.

Norway 51k

How much of their GDP is state owned oil?

Dude apart from some nice areas in big cities most homes in the US are old and beat up.

Lots of brand new homes in Norway, Denmark and Germany?

How does square footage compare?

As far as cars, you don't need it in Europe they have a good transportation systems.

Plus, gas is what, triple what we pay? More?

One of the biggest positives is that you can go to the shops without being shot and send your kids to school without them being slaughtered.

You focus on the material and that seems to be a conservative trait. Quality of life cannot be measured by just one metric.

Not in majority Muslim areas and remind us having your head hacked off is better then being shot.

Yes , the whole European experience can be summed up by one awful incident a decade ago. Can you dress yourself in the morning you fuckwit ?

one incident I guess all the attacks in France and Belgium and Germany never happened right? No no go zones in all European Countries right boob?

Name these no go zones ? I used to work in one that fox news described as such. The fact is that all of the countries you named are safer than the US. Stats dont lie but gun nuts do.

No, actually, they are not.......outside of democrat party controlled cities, the U.S. is as safe or safer than European countries, and the European countries are growing more and more dangerous each year.....as the 3rd world immigrants take control of organized crime.......

For England and Wales, we added together three crime categories: "violence against the person, with injury," "most serious sexual crime," and "robbery." This produced a rate of 775 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

For the United States, we used the FBI’s four standard categories for violent crime that Bier cited. We came up with a rate of 383 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

Social media post says U.K. has far higher violent crime rate than U.S. does

The debate over gun policy has inspired a blizzard of messages on social media, from both supporters and opponents of gu

www.politifact.com

And when you talk about gun violence, the majority of gun murder victims...over 70-80% of the victims, are not normal Americans.....they are criminals, murdered by other criminals in democrat party controlled cities.....and of the rest, the vast majority of gun murder victims are the friends and family...and sadly children, of career criminals and gang members murdered when they are caught in the murder attempt on the actual criminal....

As John Nolte puts it over at Breitbart....in MAGA country, we have guns, we just don't have gun crime....but in blue states and blue cities, they have almost all of the gun murder.....

You don't understand America Tommy, and you will understand gun violence, it is coming to Britain and the rest of Europe...

I'm so glad I didn't grow up as a kid in thr US, we had 0 fear of getting kidnapped, shot or molested unlike most American kids....you won't know what I'm talking about, you grew up in a very Hostile and tough environment, that you need a gun to feel safe.

2015, there were 13 723 nonfatal and 2762 fatal firearm injuries in children and adolescents <20 years of age in the United States.1 Deaths from firearms now rank among the top 3 causes of death in the pediatric population.1–3 In previous research, it has been identified that male sex, nonwhite race, low median income, and older adolescent age are risk factors for sustaining both fatal and nonfatal firearm injuries2,4–10; these data, however, are largely driven by firearm assaults in urban settings. In 2 previous studies, it has been demonstrated that fatality rates due to firearms for urban and rural counties are essentially equivalent both in the overall population and specifically in children and adolescents.11,12 Rural and urban differences have been noted regarding the cause of injury or death, with suicide and unintentional firearm deaths occurring at a higher rate in rural counties and deaths from firearm homicide occurring at a higher rate in urban counties.11,12

Rural Versus Urban Hospitalizations for Firearm Injuries in Children and Adolescents

In this study, we compare rates of hospitalizations for firearm injuries in children and adolescents between rural and urban areas of the United States.

pediatrics.aappublications.org

Yeah...you are an idiot...

In 2019, there were 37 accidental gun deaths for children under 11 years of age. Past research has shown that most of those involve shots from adult males, most in the mid to late 20s, who also have criminal records and are very likely to be drug addicts or alcoholics. So with 43.8 million children in that age range, the probability of a young child getting ahold of a gun and accidentally shooting another child is incredibly small. With half of the American homes owning guns, that implies a 0.00017 percent chance of a child dying from an accidental gunshot in those homes.

Entertainment TV Shows Keep Pushing Lies About Guns

The lessons from these entertainment shows are clear. Dont try to use a gun for protection, and its better not to even think of owning one.

townhall.com

Again....



578 children under the age of 11 died by accidental drowning...

9 people dead again. Never seing that happen in most of the world, this shit only happens in the US and some worn drug torncountries.
But according to idiots like you,, it is normal millions of crimes were stopped. Dumbest argument ever.

Honestly, some if those idiots use mass slaughter figures as a by product of maintaining their freedom and weapons. It's a type of collateral damage.
Every country in world can see what the problem is but America.

You mean like Europe...where they took guns away from their citizens, then allowed the German socialists to murder 12 million innocent....unarmed, men, women and children?

You mean like that?

No. There was no gun eradication programme. They had none from the beginning.

You live in a dream if you think civilians will be called to eradicate communist takeovers. What a joke. What a pathetic justification to cover for mass slaughter every week and 1 kid killed by guns every day.
Don't blurt your rubbish to me.

Gun nuts argument debunked by adults.

Disarmament of the German Jews - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Exploiting the Holocaust in order to keep your guns is pretty shabby.

 

[donttread]

Boy, 6, shot and killed after mum gave another driver the finger on school-run

Aiden Leos was sitting in the back of his family car when he was shot and killed as a result of what is believed to be a road rage attack

www.mirror.co.uk

Its almost impossible to process this incident. What is wrong with you people ?

A citizen from a country that still practices a medieval form of government complains about the freedoms of another. Hows the Queen doing.

I guess we are just jealous that we cant enjoy the freedoms that this 6 year old would have enjoyed. If he had managed to stay alive long enough obviously.

The old false sense of security over freedom argument.

And that's what they will never understand. Freedom is dangerous and scary. It's chaotic, and sometimes people can do things you you think they shouldn't. It's still preferable to the alternative.

A bird in a cage is safe from predators. It doesn't have to build a nest to hide in or for protection from the elements. It doesn't have to scrounge for food. It doesn't have to fly thousands of miles south every winter and back north every summer. It also is in a cage.

In general big city dwellers are more willing to trade liberty for security than other citizens. this is at the crux of the divide.