Moving forward

[SYTFE]

Liberals really are to stupid to exist.

It's "too", not "to", you uneducated, illiterate fucking moron.

Give him a break, will ya? He's a slack jawed inbred redneck who just voted for Trump. They aren't exactly educated.

 

[Coyote]

I remember this line oh so well from 2008...I heard it almost nonstop..."elections have consequences"....now it's karma time

So we continue in this vein? Gottit.

Here's to a Democrat fillibuster then (to use your playbook).

 

[Tom Horn]

People are saying we should move on, give Mr. Trump a chance, etc. etc. And yes, we must move on. But my feeling is this - Trump supporters, who are telling me to do this - where were YOU when Obama won? Where was your "give the man a chance" when the Republicans stated out right, before he even entered office, that they would make him a one term president and proceeded to block every thing he attempted? Where were YOU when they insisted, that a man, voted into office by the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, who still had a year remaining in his presidency - was blocked from appointing a Supreme Court Justice as was his right? To then turn around and say we must be gracious and work with the new president is indeed a difficult pill to swallow. I will wait and see. I hope I will be mature enough to not applaud the opposition if they pull a page from the Republican's playbook in these matters...because these actions are truly not in the best interests of our country, but precedents have sadly been set. Trump has won, his supporters deserve what they get and I truly hope it's not as bad as I fear.

What I fear is this. Trump won't be able to unite us, because his character doesn't allow him to. He has stated multiple times, that he will go after those who criticized or opposed him (from individuals to the media), which makes me wonder if he will use the levers of the government he will soon control to do so. We have a justices system, and we should abide by it's decisions not succumb to pitchfork mobs claiming to be justice. It certainly should not be used to enact private revenge.

Can Trump unite us? Do his supporters even WANT that?

I will will wait until the 2014 midyear elections.

As I said in my "consequences" thread, I have no desire to "unite" with the leftists....none whatsoever. Your idea of compromise is getting your way and complimenting us on agreeing with you. When we've resisted we're called every name in the book. Now it's your turn on the outside...may it be long and painful.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

I don't give a fuck what his supporters want.

How's "tricks" this fine morning in a New America, you worthless piece of shit?

Taking consolation in the fact that more Americans voted for Clinton than they did Trump, you fucking maggot.

PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We did give him a chance, though unwillingly because he's a Socialist whackjob, but I must say that he exceeded our expectations... he has done significantly more damage to this nation, significantly faster than we expected.

Anyway, on the topic of Trump, are you blind enough to think Clinton can bring us together better than he can? I mean, if you think so, we could just have Trump lie even more often, sell policies and pardons, and start allowing people to die. Democrats seem to embrace that sort of thing, given the amount of votes Hillary got.

Also, hi Coyote~<3

I didn't say Clinton could have. In fact, had she won, I would be asking the same question of her - what will she and her supporters do to help heal this country? In fact, a while back I started a thread on that - for both candidates, but it got pretty much derailed with the usual partisan fighting.

When the left recognizes Obama was the most divisive POTUS ever and that caused a lot of the division we have now they will be better off

 

[Some Guy]

Obama came in with a super majority, told the republicans "i won" and proceeded to basically say "here's what we're doing, sign it or we'll put it through anyway." Then Ted Kennedy died and it threw a wrench into the machinery. I think that set the stage well for the divisiveness we've seen over the last 8 years cause it wasn't this intense when Bush left office. Meanwhile you have enhanced racial divides and an ever increasing wage gap. Hillary Clinton just ran her campaign based largely on demonizing her opponent and calling into question his fitness to even hold the position he was campaigning for. Our own president called Trump unfit to be president.

While everyone shares part of the blame, the democrats have themselves to blame first and foremost for all this divisiveness we have in the nation right now. I can't remember the last time i've really seen democrats refer to someone as a person. Rather, it's white person, African american person, female person, muslim person, etc. All Trump has been saying is that he wants to make America better for everyone and you guys have chosen to focus on some key, out-of-context soundbites that makes Trump out to be a monster when he's really not. Just like Obama isn't some non-citizen muslim agent bred to be the president so he can take down America from the inside, Trump isn't a racist bigot who doesn't care about anyone but himself and just wants to be president so he can make more money.

And even since the election was decided, we've seen more willingness from Trump to bring people together. He said in his speech that "to the people who have opposed me, and there were a lot, i ask you for your guidance and help." Hillary said we owe Trump a chance to lead (duh, he won the election) before talking about having to 'keep fighting."

 

[Pumpkin Row]

We did give him a chance, though unwillingly because he's a Socialist whackjob, but I must say that he exceeded our expectations... he has done significantly more damage to this nation, significantly faster than we expected.

Anyway, on the topic of Trump, are you blind enough to think Clinton can bring us together better than he can? I mean, if you think so, we could just have Trump lie even more often, sell policies and pardons, and start allowing people to die. Democrats seem to embrace that sort of thing, given the amount of votes Hillary got.

Also, hi Coyote~<3

I didn't say Clinton could have. In fact, had she won, I would be asking the same question of her - what will she and her supporters do to help heal this country? In fact, a while back I started a thread on that - for both candidates, but it got pretty much derailed with the usual partisan fighting.

Aww no "hi" for me? That makes me sad.

To be fair, you really don't have to ask what either one will do to help the Nation, as both just want to help themselves. Trump is there to keep Clinton out, no more, no less. He's just less evil.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

People are saying we should move on, give Mr. Trump a chance, etc. etc. And yes, we must move on. But my feeling is this - Trump supporters, who are telling me to do this - where were YOU when Obama won? Where was your "give the man a chance" when the Republicans stated out right, before he even entered office, that they would make him a one term president and proceeded to block every thing he attempted? Where were YOU when they insisted, that a man, voted into office by the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, who still had a year remaining in his presidency - was blocked from appointing a Supreme Court Justice as was his right? To then turn around and say we must be gracious and work with the new president is indeed a difficult pill to swallow. I will wait and see. I hope I will be mature enough to not applaud the opposition if they pull a page from the Republican's playbook in these matters...because these actions are truly not in the best interests of our country, but precedents have sadly been set. Trump has won, his supporters deserve what they get and I truly hope it's not as bad as I fear.

What I fear is this. Trump won't be able to unite us, because his character doesn't allow him to. He has stated multiple times, that he will go after those who criticized or opposed him (from individuals to the media), which makes me wonder if he will use the levers of the government he will soon control to do so. We have a justices system, and we should abide by it's decisions not succumb to pitchfork mobs claiming to be justice. It certainly should not be used to enact private revenge.

Can Trump unite us? Do his supporters even WANT that?

I will will wait until the 2014 midyear elections.

Your nation, the American nation was saved last night, you should rejoice, America would not have survived Hillary, last night the Movement that mobilised said no to Globalisation and no to allowing America to be turned into a Third World nation.

Americans said yes to America First, for the American people.

You're another worthless fucking idiot.

PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WelfareQueen]

People are saying we should move on, give Mr. Trump a chance, etc. etc. And yes, we must move on. But my feeling is this - Trump supporters, who are telling me to do this - where were YOU when Obama won? Where was your "give the man a chance" when the Republicans stated out right, before he even entered office, that they would make him a one term president and proceeded to block every thing he attempted? Where were YOU when they insisted, that a man, voted into office by the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, who still had a year remaining in his presidency - was blocked from appointing a Supreme Court Justice as was his right? To then turn around and say we must be gracious and work with the new president is indeed a difficult pill to swallow. I will wait and see. I hope I will be mature enough to not applaud the opposition if they pull a page from the Republican's playbook in these matters...because these actions are truly not in the best interests of our country, but precedents have sadly been set. Trump has won, his supporters deserve what they get and I truly hope it's not as bad as I fear.

What I fear is this. Trump won't be able to unite us, because his character doesn't allow him to. He has stated multiple times, that he will go after those who criticized or opposed him (from individuals to the media), which makes me wonder if he will use the levers of the government he will soon control to do so. We have a justices system, and we should abide by it's decisions not succumb to pitchfork mobs claiming to be justice. It certainly should not be used to enact private revenge.

Can Trump unite us? Do his supporters even WANT that?

I will will wait until the 2014 midyear elections.

I voted for Obama in 2008 in the hope he would unite us. He failed miserably. People like me did not abandon Obama......Obama abandoned us.

Understand?

You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. But I think it needs to be pointed out that that failure rests on Congress - you remember those guys who said, before he ever entered office that they would make him a one-term president and block every bit of legislation he proposed? They certainly tried.

No...those statements were not made before he assumed the office. But I do remember Obama in his first week dismissing Republicans and saying "elections have consequences and you lost."

It takes two to make any relationship. Obama failed....miserably. When was the last time he went to Capital Hill to talk with Congressmen.......Dem or GOP?

Obama made zero effort to get GOP input into Obamacare. He rammed it down their throats and the throats of the American people. How did that work out?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No, Trump cannot unite us any more than Obama.

Heck, our entire political system is built around the notion that there are two great tribes forever warring, and it is getting worse all the time.

What distresses me is how the left has become so beholden to identity politics that it divides according to race and ethnicity by very nature as politicians have to pander to many elements who simply hate white people, while the right has become the bastion for those intolerant individuals who refuse to give up antiquated ideas about how things should be.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I remember this line oh so well from 2008...I heard it almost nonstop..."elections have consequences"....now it's karma time

So we continue in this vein? Gottit.

Here's to a Democrat fillibuster then (to use your playbook).

I didn't see you whining about this "vein" the last eight years. Now the shoe is on the other foot and it's a little tight, eh? For eight years the left tried to run rough shod over people, forcing insanity like men in girls showers, etc. Enough...America said enough!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

People are saying we should move on, give Mr. Trump a chance, etc. etc. And yes, we must move on. But my feeling is this - Trump supporters, who are telling me to do this - where were YOU when Obama won? Where was your "give the man a chance" when the Republicans stated out right, before he even entered office, that they would make him a one term president and proceeded to block every thing he attempted? Where were YOU when they insisted, that a man, voted into office by the WILL OF THE PEOPLE, who still had a year remaining in his presidency - was blocked from appointing a Supreme Court Justice as was his right? To then turn around and say we must be gracious and work with the new president is indeed a difficult pill to swallow. I will wait and see. I hope I will be mature enough to not applaud the opposition if they pull a page from the Republican's playbook in these matters...because these actions are truly not in the best interests of our country, but precedents have sadly been set. Trump has won, his supporters deserve what they get and I truly hope it's not as bad as I fear.

What I fear is this. Trump won't be able to unite us, because his character doesn't allow him to. He has stated multiple times, that he will go after those who criticized or opposed him (from individuals to the media), which makes me wonder if he will use the levers of the government he will soon control to do so. We have a justices system, and we should abide by it's decisions not succumb to pitchfork mobs claiming to be justice. It certainly should not be used to enact private revenge.

Can Trump unite us? Do his supporters even WANT that?

I will will wait until the 2014 midyear elections.

Your nation, the American nation was saved last night, you should rejoice, America would not have survived Hillary, last night the Movement that mobilised said no to Globalisation and no to allowing America to be turned into a Third World nation.

Americans said yes to America First, for the American people.

No Lucy. No one won. We are more divided then ever.

How can you be more divided than Obama has divided you?

 

[ZZ PUPPS]

I remember this line oh so well from 2008...I heard it almost nonstop..."elections have consequences"....now it's karma time

So we continue in this vein? Gottit.

Here's to a Democrat fillibuster then (to use your playbook).

Here's to reconcillation used to pass Obamacare. Remember Harry Reid's nuclear option...tick tock biatches.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I will will wait until the 2014 midyear elections.

You dont have a very long time to wait for the 2014 mid terms.


They were two years ago.

 

[SwimExpert]

Obama made zero effort to get GOP input into Obamacare.

So that's why he duplicated a Republican plan.

 

[Grizz]

I don't give a fuck what his supporters want.

How's "tricks" this fine morning in a New America, you worthless piece of shit?

Taking consolation in the fact that more Americans voted for Clinton than they did Trump, you fucking maggot.

Possibly, most likely thanks to the whack jobs in Cali... lol

Not "possibly," it's a fact.

This is you.....

 

[JimBowie1958]

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I remember this line oh so well from 2008...I heard it almost nonstop..."elections have consequences"....now it's karma time

So we continue in this vein? Gottit.

Here's to a Democrat fillibuster then (to use your playbook).

Here's to reconcillation used to pass Obamacare. Remember Harry Reid's nuclear option...tick tock biatches.

Let's not forget EOs. Oh the karma

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I don't give a fuck what his supporters want.

Do you have a fuck to give and if you had one, would anybody actually want it?

 

[Coyote]

We did give him a chance, though unwillingly because he's a Socialist whackjob, but I must say that he exceeded our expectations... he has done significantly more damage to this nation, significantly faster than we expected.

Anyway, on the topic of Trump, are you blind enough to think Clinton can bring us together better than he can? I mean, if you think so, we could just have Trump lie even more often, sell policies and pardons, and start allowing people to die. Democrats seem to embrace that sort of thing, given the amount of votes Hillary got.

Also, hi Coyote~<3

I didn't say Clinton could have. In fact, had she won, I would be asking the same question of her - what will she and her supporters do to help heal this country? In fact, a while back I started a thread on that - for both candidates, but it got pretty much derailed with the usual partisan fighting.

Aww no "hi" for me? That makes me sad.

To be fair, you really don't have to ask what either one will do to help the Nation, as both just want to help themselves. Trump is there to keep Clinton out, no more, no less. He's just less evil.

Sorry sweetie - I'm being rude, hiya back at you

I don't think either one is evil - many Clinton voters voted to keep Trump out, many Trump voters voted to keep Clinton out.

Typically elections at the end of a two-term presidency favor the opposing party, in that this aspect, the results were totally predictable. What obscured many things were the dynamics of the individual characters.