Most Conservatives Still Believe The Civil War Wasn't Over Slavery

[kaz]

The war wasn't about slavery. It was about secession.

Slavery was a part of the war, but not the bottom line.

Slavery was the ONLY issue. Period.

You all have been parroting a host of bullshit memes. I have provided solid evidence destroying those memes.

These are the memes of sore losers whose pride can't accept the facts, and who harbor secret desires to return to those days. "Make America Great Again".

Thats bullshit. For the south it was about economics. No one sat there and said they wanted slaves. They wanted agriculture. Slaves were a tool not an end for them.

And slavery had nothing to do with the north going to war at all

LoL, yea, it was strictly about slavery, more clearly, negro chattel slavery. Which is why so many historical documents from the confederacy mentioned negro slavery, their opposition to freeing them and giving them equal rights, and their willingness to fight the union over it.

History will not be changed because your ideology is found to be ******* racist.

So you think some dumb negro can't make it on their own without a lower bar and a handout and I don't. The racist is clear, Grand Dragon. Darkies are to remain on the Democrat plantation or you'll hung them down and destroy them

If that dumb negro was compared to you, then sure I’d agree he would be a much higher intelligent being.

Yes, I'm so dumb I don't want government handouts. You didn't think that insult through, did you?

You offer blacks a lower bar and more handouts. And if they don't take it, you go after them like you did Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condie Rice and any other black that dares leave your racist Democrat plantation. You're not bribing blacks to vote for Democrats as if they have a choice

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Let’s see, the reasons for the war....everything

You obviously failed to read this thread.

So, explain what Lincoln meant when he said this in his inaugural address:

"Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that--

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
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[ATL]

Slavery was at the forefront when southern states used it as a justification for secession

No argument there.

Preserving the Union was at the forefront when Lincoln went to war.

If you could put your emotions aside, you would be able to both be glad that the war ended slavery and also acknowledge that the Union was loaded with indifferent racist motherfuckers motivated by power and commerce, rather than benevolence and equality.

Those "indifferent racist motherfuckers" dont hold a candle to the southern conservative racist motherfuckers that tried, and continue to try to keep the mantra that "white is right". So save the whataboutism for those that are ignorant of history, or in other words....Trump supporters.

Kill...kill....kill....SCREAMS the ignorant Statist.

Do you change your bib as the spittle flies from anger, or do you just let it soak it up as much as possible?

 

[ATL]

Slavery was the ONLY issue. Period.

You all have been parroting a host of bullshit memes. I have provided solid evidence destroying those memes.

These are the memes of sore losers whose pride can't accept the facts, and who harbor secret desires to return to those days. "Make America Great Again".

Thats bullshit. For the south it was about economics. No one sat there and said they wanted slaves. They wanted agriculture. Slaves were a tool not an end for them.

And slavery had nothing to do with the north going to war at all

LoL, yea, it was strictly about slavery, more clearly, negro chattel slavery. Which is why so many historical documents from the confederacy mentioned negro slavery, their opposition to freeing them and giving them equal rights, and their willingness to fight the union over it.

History will not be changed because your ideology is found to be ******* racist.

So you think some dumb negro can't make it on their own without a lower bar and a handout and I don't. The racist is clear, Grand Dragon. Darkies are to remain on the Democrat plantation or you'll hung them down and destroy them

If that dumb negro was compared to you, then sure I’d agree he would be a much higher intelligent being.

Yes, I'm so dumb I don't want government handouts. You didn't think that insult through, did you?

You offer blacks a lower bar and more handouts. And if they don't take it, you go after them like you did Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condie Rice and any other black that dares leave your racist Democrat plantation. You're not bribing blacks to vote for Democrats as if they have a choice

I also offer the same lower bar to the white deadbeats living in Kentucky, why don’t you care about them as much as you seem to do about blacks...rhetorical question.

Also...Colin Powell? The same Colin that you and your ilk denigrated when he supported Obama? So much for your bullshit.

 

[gipper]

Take a look at the full title of this document which created the United States.


Note the words "PERPETUAL UNION" to which all parties consented.

Which was logically extended by a "more perfect Union"; never abrogated, never renounced, never contradicted. Voluntarily joined.
The Union and its preservation was not based on Lincoln and has nothing to do with any veneration of him, though his efforts to preserve the Union are appreciated by Americans.

Lincoln had one tough row to how trying to keep the Union together.

He wasn't perfect by any means but I think he was the best President this country has ever had.

He was a tyrant that killed raped and pillaged. He shit all over the constitution. Shut down over 300 media outlets. Jailed thousands of journalists.
The best?

No. He was a POTUS trying to hold the union together. It was one thankless job.

He was no more a tyrant than you are. Journalists of today should be jailed for their fake news.

IMO he was the best POTUS this country has ever had.

I find your opinion appalling. War is never the answer and never worth the cost....NEVER. However the ruling class does handsomely during war, which is why we have war and why Lincoln went to war. He saved the Union by murdering half of it, so his donors could get rich. Good job.

The murdering of 850k Americans and destruction of half the nation, was hardly worth saving the Union. We have now a tyrannical central government in part, due to Dishonest Abe's treasonous actions.

 

[ATL]

Let’s see, the reasons for the war....everything

You obviously failed to read this thread.

So, explain what Lincoln meant when he said this in his inaugural address:

"Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that--

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
​

He did the same thing you swear Trump is awesome at, talking bullshit while implementing policies. Lincoln freed the slaves. Need a safe space where you can sit to comprehend that?

 

[ATL]

Take a look at the full title of this document which created the United States.


Note the words "PERPETUAL UNION" to which all parties consented.

Which was logically extended by a "more perfect Union"; never abrogated, never renounced, never contradicted. Voluntarily joined.
The Union and its preservation was not based on Lincoln and has nothing to do with any veneration of him, though his efforts to preserve the Union are appreciated by Americans.

Lincoln had one tough row to how trying to keep the Union together.

He wasn't perfect by any means but I think he was the best President this country has ever had.

He was a tyrant that killed raped and pillaged. He shit all over the constitution. Shut down over 300 media outlets. Jailed thousands of journalists.
The best?

No. He was a POTUS trying to hold the union together. It was one thankless job.

He was no more a tyrant than you are. Journalists of today should be jailed for their fake news.

IMO he was the best POTUS this country has ever had.

I find your opinion appalling. War is never the answer and never worth the cost....NEVER. However the ruling class does handsomely during war, which is why we have war and why Lincoln went to war. He saved the Union by murdering half of it, so his donors could get rich. Good job.

The murdering of 850k Americans and destruction of half the nation, was hardly worth saving the Union. We have now a tyrannical central government in part, due to Dishonest Abe's treasonous actions.

I agree, it sucks that 400k good men had to die in order to get racist dumbfucks to stop their racist policies. As for the loss the confederacy faced....may God judge their actions.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

He did the same thing you swear Trump is awesome at, talking bullshit while implementing policies. Lincoln freed the slaves. Need a safe space where you can sit to comprehend that?

But, slavery was not the cause of war. It was secession, was it not?

Lincoln said he did not intend to end slavery. Nobody had ended slavery. Yet, war broke out anyway.

How do you explain that?

 

[gipper]

Let’s see, the reasons for the war....everything

You obviously failed to read this thread.

So, explain what Lincoln meant when he said this in his inaugural address:

"Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that--

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
​

He did the same thing you swear Trump is awesome at, talking bullshit while implementing policies. Lincoln freed the slaves. Need a safe space where you can sit to comprehend that?

Lincoln was a radical white supremacist, even in his time. He cared not one wit about the slaves. He intended to deport all blacks after the war, but thankfully John Wilkes Booth sent him to his just rewards....straight to Hell.

 

[ATL]

He did the same thing you swear Trump is awesome at, talking bullshit while implementing policies. Lincoln freed the slaves. Need a safe space where you can sit to comprehend that?

But, slavery was not the cause of war. It was secession, was it not?

Lincoln said he did not intend to end slavery. Nobody had ended slavery. Yet, war broke out anyway.

How do you explain that?

I explain it by telling you to read the emancipation proclamation.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I agree, it sucks that 400k good men had to die in order to get racist dumbfucks to stop their racist policies. As for the loss the confederacy faced....may God judge their actions.

True or false.

Lincoln was a white supremacist.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I explain it by telling you to read the emancipation proclamation.

That was written and issued WAY after the war had already started.

So, do you have something more substantive?

 

[ATL]

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Let’s see, the reasons for the war....everything

You obviously failed to read this thread.

So, explain what Lincoln meant when he said this in his inaugural address:

"Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that--

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
​

He did the same thing you swear Trump is awesome at, talking bullshit while implementing policies. Lincoln freed the slaves. Need a safe space where you can sit to comprehend that?

Lincoln was a radical white supremacy, even in his time. He cared not one wit about the slaves. He intended to deport all blacks after the war, but thankfully John Wilkes Booth sent him to his just rewards....straight to Hell.

I don’t care if he was a Martian, he kicked the south’s ass and now you are regulated to reenactments and talking bad on the internet.

 

[ATL]

I agree, it sucks that 400k good men had to die in order to get racist dumbfucks to stop their racist policies. As for the loss the confederacy faced....may God judge their actions.

True or false.

Lincoln was a white supremacist.

No idea, can you read people’s mind now, or is that just in cases where you want to defend their racist actions?

 

[ATL]

I explain it by telling you to read the emancipation proclamation.

That was written and issued WAY after the war had already started.

So, do you have something more substantive?

Sure, the south got their ass kicked, and Dixie is on life support.

 

[gipper]

P

Let’s see, the reasons for the war....everything

You obviously failed to read this thread.

So, explain what Lincoln meant when he said this in his inaugural address:

"Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that--

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
​

He did the same thing you swear Trump is awesome at, talking bullshit while implementing policies. Lincoln freed the slaves. Need a safe space where you can sit to comprehend that?

Lincoln was a radical white supremacy, even in his time. He cared not one wit about the slaves. He intended to deport all blacks after the war, but thankfully John Wilkes Booth sent him to his just rewards....straight to Hell.

I don’t care if he was a Martian, he kicked the south’s ass and now you are regulated to reenactments and talking bad on the internet.

So in your small demented mind, you admire him only because he won the war.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I don’t care if he was a Martian, he kicked the south’s ass and now you are regulated to reenactments and talking bad on the internet.

But, slavery was not the cause of the war.

C'mon. You can admit it.

White people, North and South, didn't give a rat **** about black people and believed themselves to be superior. ALL OF THEM DID!!!

So, keep up your hatred and bigotry toward Southerners. You are doing great things.




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Dumbass.

 

[Crixus]

Well, let's be precise, when you say "Civil War" are you referring to the war itself or to southern secession? The two are linked, obviously, but they each have different causes.

The southern states tried to leave the union to be able to continue to own human beings as slaves.

The southern states went to war to be able to leave the union to continue to own human beings as slaves.

The southern states were traitors to our nation at the time.

Anyone who complains about other nation flags being flown or football players taking a knee but also flies a confederate flag is nothing but a hypocrite. They are flying a flag of traitors to the United States of America. They killed hundreds of thousands of Americans just for the reason that they wanted to own human beings as slaves.

There is no other reason for the actions of the southern states and the civil war.

On top of that they lost and some conservative people today are still fighting that war.

Bull shit.

 

[gipper]

I explain it by telling you to read the emancipation proclamation.

That was written and issued WAY after the war had already started.

So, do you have something more substantive?

Sure, the south got their ass kicked, and Dixie is on life support.

...and you love it that so many Americans from the South were killed. You love killing apparently.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Sure, the south got their ass kicked, and Dixie is on life support.

And, I am still right, that the war was cause by secession and nobody gave a shit about black people. Right?