Most Americans like Socialism

[francoHFW]

Socialism can be funded for awhile until the wealth accumulated by capitalism runs out then everybody is pretty much screwed. Just ask the people of Greece if you have trouble understanding that concept.

citizens have been funding our roads, police, schools and science institutions for hundreds of years. We have gained more wealth through doing so!!! There's a difference between good investments and just handing money out to a bum! Something you don't understand.

Who is this bum? I'll bet he's disabled or can't find a job...so many have a prison record in this crazy country or are too old or some gd thing. Hater dupes seem to want the unemployed to cry all the time and lose their dignity...

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism makes everything the same...mediocre. I want the best of the best for America. Get off of your lazy socialist asses and do great things and stop looking for a bail out from your neighbor.

QED- Thinks socialism is communism, that people on UE and welfare, SS are lazy. Hater dupe.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

the road, and the fire department are values to me.
can you explain to me the value in paying some welfare queen to sit on her backside all day eating taxpayer funded food while watching Springer on the welfare funded big screen while talking to her other welfare queen friends on the free obama phone?
I am curious how this helps me. Or if that's too tough,
tell me how it helps me to pay so much for my insurance now that I cant afford to go to a doctor, so that some unproductive individual can go for free at my expense.
Now, what happens when every one in the country decides to kick back, not work and just collect the free stuff,, who is going to pay for that?

AFDC no longer exists; TANF replaced it. Thus the Welfare Queens of yesteryear no longer exist.

Millions of people used the emergency room (ER) for routine health problems at an enormous cost to local taxpayers and a heavy burden for local governments. The PPACA, Medicare and Medicaid reforms, have ameliorated the burden on taxpayers and provided health care for many who didn't have it or could not purchase it because of on going health problems.

Why can't you afford health insurance? it could be you governor choose to opt out of the new health care law, or you simply didn't apply for the subsidy. In any event take the advice you would give to the apocryphal welfare queen and get off the internet and work harder to improve your life. It is all about you taking personal responsibility.

Actually, I still have insurance through my employer. However, should that be removed and force me to go to the inferior ACA, My coverage would be less, and instead of 360 a month right now (4320 a year premium) and my 10 dollar copay with nothing out of pocket before it kicks in, I would go to 10,800 a year in premiums with a 12,400 out of pocket, so I would basically spend 23,200 a year for my coverage, while some bottom feeder pays 60 a month for better coverage than I can get.
This is nothing more than another redistribution of wealth.
And in Maryland even the illegals are able to get medical care, they should not. or at the very least their home country should pay the bill for their upkeep.

That's funny cuz I live in a very backward red state and ours got cheaper and we got better benefits, cheaper scrips and last year, got two refunds.

perhaps you are one of those with a low enough income that you get the subsidies paid for by those that make more. I am not eligible for any subsidies or lower prices, have to pay full amount so that the lazy can have for free.
I guess the good side of it all is that most of the welfare class live in Baltimore and they are killing themselves at an alarming rate. Those drive by shootings over Heroin really star to add up.

I pay full price.

In point of fact, you already pay for the less fortunate as well as abortions and live births of illegals. You have been paying for some years now. Its called EMTALA, a socialist law put into effect by your hero, Ronnie Ray-Gun.

ObamaCare, OTOH, does not allow illegals to sign up for the cheaper insurance.

Open your mind and educate yourself.

Reagan was way to far to the left for me so Im not exactly sure where you get the idea he was my hero. Of course, he was better than the American hating muslim homosexual that is in office now.

 

[ScienceRocks]

AFDC no longer exists; TANF replaced it. Thus the Welfare Queens of yesteryear no longer exist.

Millions of people used the emergency room (ER) for routine health problems at an enormous cost to local taxpayers and a heavy burden for local governments. The PPACA, Medicare and Medicaid reforms, have ameliorated the burden on taxpayers and provided health care for many who didn't have it or could not purchase it because of on going health problems.

Why can't you afford health insurance? it could be you governor choose to opt out of the new health care law, or you simply didn't apply for the subsidy. In any event take the advice you would give to the apocryphal welfare queen and get off the internet and work harder to improve your life. It is all about you taking personal responsibility.

Actually, I still have insurance through my employer. However, should that be removed and force me to go to the inferior ACA, My coverage would be less, and instead of 360 a month right now (4320 a year premium) and my 10 dollar copay with nothing out of pocket before it kicks in, I would go to 10,800 a year in premiums with a 12,400 out of pocket, so I would basically spend 23,200 a year for my coverage, while some bottom feeder pays 60 a month for better coverage than I can get.
This is nothing more than another redistribution of wealth.
And in Maryland even the illegals are able to get medical care, they should not. or at the very least their home country should pay the bill for their upkeep.

That's funny cuz I live in a very backward red state and ours got cheaper and we got better benefits, cheaper scrips and last year, got two refunds.

perhaps you are one of those with a low enough income that you get the subsidies paid for by those that make more. I am not eligible for any subsidies or lower prices, have to pay full amount so that the lazy can have for free.
I guess the good side of it all is that most of the welfare class live in Baltimore and they are killing themselves at an alarming rate. Those drive by shootings over Heroin really star to add up.

I pay full price.

In point of fact, you already pay for the less fortunate as well as abortions and live births of illegals. You have been paying for some years now. Its called EMTALA, a socialist law put into effect by your hero, Ronnie Ray-Gun.

ObamaCare, OTOH, does not allow illegals to sign up for the cheaper insurance.

Open your mind and educate yourself.

Reagan was way to far to the left for me so Im not exactly sure where you get the idea he was my hero. Of course, he was better than the American hating muslim homosexual that is in office now.

Anything that doesn't put the robber barons in control of every inch of our society = to far left. lol

Regulations with purpose makes good sense....I do think Obama at times takes it too far but people like you are also wrong.

 

[Flash]

Well, I like paved roads, police, fire fighters, schools, our science institutions. So yes, some socialism is a good thing.

We really do work together to make this society function!!!

Very few people would have trouble with fiscally responsible funding of necessary items like defense, police, courts etc.

Funding roads and other infrastructure on a user basis (i.e fuel tax) is acceptable.

A basic community education on a local basis would be acceptable by most people.

What is unacceptable is taking money from the people that earned it and giving it to the people that didn't earn it like in welfare, subsidies, bailouts and entitlements. That is where government goes amuck.

Before you complain about defense spending remember that being the world's policemen and foreign aid and interventionism when America's security is not really at stake is just another form of welfare.

 

[francoHFW]

Well, I like paved roads, police, fire fighters, schools, our science institutions. So yes, some socialism is a good thing.

We really do work together to make this society function!!!

Very few people would have trouble with fiscally responsible funding of necessary items like defense, police, courts etc.

Funding roads and other infrastructure on a user basis (i.e fuel tax) is acceptable.

A basic community education on a local basis would be acceptable by most people.

What is unacceptable is taking money from the people that earned it and giving it to the people that didn't earn it like in welfare, subsidies, bailouts and entitlements. That is where government goes amuck.

Before you complain about defense spending remember that being the world's policemen and foreign aid and interventionism when America's security is not really at stake is just another form of welfare.

Too bad for selfish, shortsighted hater dupes, who when misfortune hits THEM, whine the loudest. It's called intelligence and civilization- taking care of the unfortunate.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Socialism makes everything the same...mediocre. I want the best of the best for America. Get off of your lazy socialist asses and do great things and stop looking for a bail out from your neighbor.

Actually, its just the opposite.

Socialism does not "bail out your neighbor". Its simply a fact that one alone does not have the power or strength of many.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Well, I like paved roads, police, fire fighters, schools, our science institutions. So yes, some socialism is a good thing.

We really do work together to make this society function!!!

Very few people would have trouble with fiscally responsible funding of necessary items like defense, police, courts etc.

Funding roads and other infrastructure on a user basis (i.e fuel tax) is acceptable.

A basic community education on a local basis would be acceptable by most people.

What is unacceptable is taking money from the people that earned it and giving it to the people that didn't earn it like in welfare, subsidies, bailouts and entitlements. That is where government goes amuck.

Before you complain about defense spending remember that being the world's policemen and foreign aid and interventionism when America's security is not really at stake is just another form of welfare.

Too bad for selfish, shortsighted hater dupes, who when misfortune hits THEM, whine the loudest. It's called intelligence and civilization- taking care of the unfortunate.

Oh but they're right there to take advantage of the man benefits of joining forces and working together. Just don't ask them to carry their fair share.

 

[Wry Catcher]

AFDC no longer exists; TANF replaced it. Thus the Welfare Queens of yesteryear no longer exist.

Millions of people used the emergency room (ER) for routine health problems at an enormous cost to local taxpayers and a heavy burden for local governments. The PPACA, Medicare and Medicaid reforms, have ameliorated the burden on taxpayers and provided health care for many who didn't have it or could not purchase it because of on going health problems.

Why can't you afford health insurance? it could be you governor choose to opt out of the new health care law, or you simply didn't apply for the subsidy. In any event take the advice you would give to the apocryphal welfare queen and get off the internet and work harder to improve your life. It is all about you taking personal responsibility.

Actually, I still have insurance through my employer. However, should that be removed and force me to go to the inferior ACA, My coverage would be less, and instead of 360 a month right now (4320 a year premium) and my 10 dollar copay with nothing out of pocket before it kicks in, I would go to 10,800 a year in premiums with a 12,400 out of pocket, so I would basically spend 23,200 a year for my coverage, while some bottom feeder pays 60 a month for better coverage than I can get.
This is nothing more than another redistribution of wealth.
And in Maryland even the illegals are able to get medical care, they should not. or at the very least their home country should pay the bill for their upkeep.

That's funny cuz I live in a very backward red state and ours got cheaper and we got better benefits, cheaper scrips and last year, got two refunds.

perhaps you are one of those with a low enough income that you get the subsidies paid for by those that make more. I am not eligible for any subsidies or lower prices, have to pay full amount so that the lazy can have for free.
I guess the good side of it all is that most of the welfare class live in Baltimore and they are killing themselves at an alarming rate. Those drive by shootings over Heroin really star to add up.

I pay full price.

In point of fact, you already pay for the less fortunate as well as abortions and live births of illegals. You have been paying for some years now. Its called EMTALA, a socialist law put into effect by your hero, Ronnie Ray-Gun.

ObamaCare, OTOH, does not allow illegals to sign up for the cheaper insurance.

Open your mind and educate yourself.

Reagan was way to far to the left for me so Im not exactly sure where you get the idea he was my hero. Of course, he was better than the American hating muslim homosexual that is in office now.

LOL, where do you get your information? Do you have a source which provides probative evidence that President Obama hates Americans and is a homosexual? Please post the sources.

 

[Flash]

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Too bad for selfish, shortsighted hater dupes, who when misfortune hits THEM, whine the loudest. It's called intelligence and civilization- taking care of the unfortunate.

A bureaucrat, elected by special interest groups. doesn't take care of anybody. They buy votes from the welfare queens and the thugs (like Solyndra and Wall Street) that live off the thievery of taking money from those that earned it and giving it to those didn't earn it..

Charity should be administered from the heart, church and family and not by force from a bloated corrupt debt ridden bureaucracy that destroys personal responsibility and the economy.

 

[dblack]

Freedom sucks. Embrace authority. Learn to love your role.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Actually, I still have insurance through my employer. However, should that be removed and force me to go to the inferior ACA, My coverage would be less, and instead of 360 a month right now (4320 a year premium) and my 10 dollar copay with nothing out of pocket before it kicks in, I would go to 10,800 a year in premiums with a 12,400 out of pocket, so I would basically spend 23,200 a year for my coverage, while some bottom feeder pays 60 a month for better coverage than I can get.
This is nothing more than another redistribution of wealth.
And in Maryland even the illegals are able to get medical care, they should not. or at the very least their home country should pay the bill for their upkeep.

That's funny cuz I live in a very backward red state and ours got cheaper and we got better benefits, cheaper scrips and last year, got two refunds.

perhaps you are one of those with a low enough income that you get the subsidies paid for by those that make more. I am not eligible for any subsidies or lower prices, have to pay full amount so that the lazy can have for free.
I guess the good side of it all is that most of the welfare class live in Baltimore and they are killing themselves at an alarming rate. Those drive by shootings over Heroin really star to add up.

I pay full price.

In point of fact, you already pay for the less fortunate as well as abortions and live births of illegals. You have been paying for some years now. Its called EMTALA, a socialist law put into effect by your hero, Ronnie Ray-Gun.

ObamaCare, OTOH, does not allow illegals to sign up for the cheaper insurance.

Open your mind and educate yourself.

Reagan was way to far to the left for me so Im not exactly sure where you get the idea he was my hero. Of course, he was better than the American hating muslim homosexual that is in office now.

LOL, where do you get your information? Do you have a source which provides probative evidence that President Obama hates Americans and is a homosexual? Please post the sources.

Maryland Patriot can't address issues so he tells lies.

He's probably one of those who believes the pres is doing "20-30 men" every night in the WH and you can bet he gets his news from the Muslum who controls fox.

 

[francoHFW]

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Too bad for selfish, shortsighted hater dupes, who when misfortune hits THEM, whine the loudest. It's called intelligence and civilization- taking care of the unfortunate.

A bureaucrat, elected by special interest groups. doesn't take care of anybody. They buy votes from the welfare queens and the thugs (like Solyndra and Wall Street) that live off the thievery of taking money from those that earned it and giving it to those didn't earn it..

Charity should be administered from the heart, church and family and not by force from a bloated corrupt debt ridden bureaucracy that destroys personal responsibility and the economy.

Sure, that works great...back to work houses and potters fields.

 

[regent]

Americans have been taking care of the children, the sick. the disabled, the veterans and the poor since the nation was established. We gave railroad companies land and cash if they would build railroads, and on and on. we built canals, roadsgave

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Americans have been taking care of the children, the sick. the disabled, the veterans and the poor since the nation was established. We gave railroad companies land and cash if they would build railroads, and on and on. we built canals, roadsgave

Can't do that anymore though.

Other countries can but not us.

Other countries take care of their citizens on a lot smaller tax base than the US. We pay for such things as health care and infrastructure but we don't get it.

Far more inportant to make the rich richer. Can't have the Koch's going on welfare, right? And, the Big Oil companies need our taxes to the tune of $10million every minute of every day.

Pay up and don't expect affordable health care insurance cuz that's just not the American way.

 

[my2¢]

Socialism is best when it is voluntary. Many folks choose to live in HOA communities, but it shouldn't be forced upon anybody. Likewise with insurance where the resources of many care for the misfortune of a few. Next best is when control is local, as we have with local school boards and city governments. We have Republicans here controlling Arizona's government. Their continual passage of laws imposing state control over local matters really ticks me.

 

[bripat9643]

Well, they like socialist ideas, but have been made to think that socialism is evil by connecting it with USSR and nazi socialists.

Democratic Socialism is different and Bernie Sander's success points to this. Link below. Will he win? Probably not since the corporate controlled media only allows coverage for a corporate democrat or a corporate republican. Notice lately how much boner and mcconnel are in love with obama since he's pushing a TPP agenda that favors the ruling class?

According To Polls Most Americans Are Socialists Like Bernie Sanders

People are attracted to the moral high ground that socialusm offers but reject the negative consequences of such a sytem. It is just a matter of time before people quit this silly obsession with it.

What "moral high ground?" There's nothing moral about socialism. It's organized plunder and slavery. What's "moral" about that?

 

[bripat9643]

Socialism is best when it is voluntary. Many folks choose to live in HOA communities, but it shouldn't be forced upon anybody. Likewise with insurance where the resources of many care for the misfortune of a few. Next best is when control is local, as we have with local school boards and city governments. We have Republicans here controlling Arizona's government. Their continual passage of laws imposing state control over local matters really ticks me.

The term "voluntary socialism" is an oxymoron. It will never be voluntary for the productive members of society. They have no desire to become sustenance for blood sucking parasites.

 

[bripat9643]

Socialism has never worked....and never will

Still got that pesky extra "l" in you sig line...???

Still deflecting with childish BS? Name where socialism has ever worked. I won't wait....child

Childish replies are often a result of "playing to ones audience"....as is definitely the case here..
Why should I waste anything even remotely articulate on a fool like you...??....

Name where socialism has ever succeeded, I'm not interested in your other BS. If you can't then cease responding to me, loser. Tick tock tick tock....fool.

Name a country that doesn't have some elements of Socialism.

Name a dog that has never had fleas.

 

[bripat9643]

Still deflecting with childish BS? Name where socialism has ever worked. I won't wait....child

Childish replies are often a result of "playing to ones audience"....as is definitely the case here..
Why should I waste anything even remotely articulate on a fool like you...??....

Name where socialism has ever succeeded, I'm not interested in your other BS. If you can't then cease responding to me, loser. Tick tock tick tock....fool.

Name a country that doesn't have some elements of Socialism.

Any country has elements of it, no country that has adopted it wholesale has evew succeed under it

You're right.
Neither has any country that has adopted wholesale laissez-faire capitalism.
So why is it only socialist elements that are so strongly condemned?

Total bullshit. Laissez faire capitalism has succeeded spectacularly every time it has been tried.