More Than 40,000 Govt Workers Take Buyout as Deadline Looms

[NetJedi]

Actually, Government has to work with the private sector.

So what?

Most of what is bought comes from the private sector.

Right because government CONSUMES value it doesn't PRODUCE it, if it produced any value it wouldn't have to force people to pay for it.

Government needs subject matter experts on par with the private sector experts they are dealing with

That's what contractors are for; you hire them when you need them and fire them when their services are no longer required.

 

[Billiejeens]

sorry billie lots of them work there for the benefits.....

Don't be sorry, I don't disagree with that.

 

[Ava]

in the post office employees have been treated like shit for quite a while.....i cant see how it can get any worse....

My mail carrier is a conservative and is willing to work hard for the money while enjoying a 6 week vacation each year. He's always in a good and friendly mood and loves the perks of his job, while not expecting it to be perfect ( easy ).

 

[rightwinger]

Right because government CONSUMES value it doesn't PRODUCE it, if it produced any value it wouldn't have to force people to pay for it.

Government used to produce things. The private sector complained to Congress that the Government was competing with them unfairly and those functions were taken away and given to the private sector

 

[Lisa558]

I can


I’ve had the displeasure of doing several contracts with the government of the years. You people are idiots.

I had the displeasure of working for the Governmwnt for one year - after which I went screaming for the exit. The staff was twice the number it needed to be, they wasted money and laughed about it, everyone took two or three hours for lunch, and there was red tape galore.

Here was a typical day:

1) Work started at 8:30. People were still trickling in at 9:30.

2) A couple of hours of work.

3) Around 11:30, people started calling their friends to figure out where to go to lunch.

4) Leave for lunch about 11:45. (I left at noon, and returned at 1.)

5) People start coming back from lunch around 2, and some as late as 2:30.

6) A couple more hours of work, and then start chit-chatting around 4:30 because it “didn’t make sense to start on anything new so close to the end of the day.”

7) In winter, begin the process of getting on coat and hat at 4:45. Chit-chat a bit more until the clock reached 4:55, and then boom…..out like a flash.

This was 40 years ago, before telework.

 

[NetJedi]

Government used to produce things.

For the most part the Federal Government doesn't produce anything that anybody would willingly pay for at the price that's being demanded, that's the problem with having no competition and the ability to lock people up for not paying for what you have on offer.

The private sector complained to Congress that the Government was competing with them unfairly and those functions were taken away and given to the private sector

LOL

 

[WelfareQueen]

I had the displeasure of working for the Governmwnt for one year - after which I went screaming for the exit. The staff was twice the number it needed to be, they wasted money and laughed about it, everyone took two or three hours for lunch, and there was red tape galore.

Here was a typical day:

1) Work started at 8:30. People were still trickling in at 9:30.

2) A couple of hours of work.

3) Around 11:30, people started calling their friends to figure out where to go to lunch.

4) Leave for lunch about 11:45. (I left at noon, and returned at 1.)

5) People start coming back from lunch around 2, and some as late as 2:30.

6) A couple more hours of work, and then start chit-chatting around 4:30 because it “didn’t make sense to start on anything new so close to the end of the day.”

7) In winter, begin the process of getting on coat and hat at 4:45. Chit-chat a bit more until the clock reached 4:55, and then boom…..out like a flash.

This was 40 years ago, before telework.

I had a neighbor who worked for years for HUD. Said if he had two hours of work a day it was a lot. Bored out of his mind but the money and the benefits were too good.

We're paying for that.

 

[Lisa558]

I had a neighbor who worked for years for HUD. Said if he had two hours of work a day it was a lot. Bored out of his mind but the money and the benefits were too good.

We're paying for that.

Oh gosh…..I know a HUD employee too. She told me the same thing - she had two hours of work a day. She’s a GS 14, S10, which in Washington is $180,000 a year.

HUD might be especially bad. I know they spend a lot of money helping deadbeats who aren’t paying their rent fight the landlord.

 

[NetJedi]

Oh gosh…..I know a HUD employee too. She told me the same thing - she had two hours of work a day. She’s a GS 14, S10, which in Washington is $180,000 a year.

HUD might be especially bad. I know they spend a lot of money helping deadbeats who aren’t paying their rent fight the landlord.

Don't knock HUD, we're #1 for having the most expensive ghettos on planet Earth thanks to our boys & girls at HUD.

 

[Harry Dresden]

My mail carrier is a conservative and is willing to work hard for the money while enjoying a 6 week vacation each year. He's always in a good and friendly mood and loves the perks of his job, while not expecting it to be perfect ( easy ).

most regulars who have their own routes are like that....

 

[imawhosure]

How much is it going to cost the American taxpayer to install Trump loyalists with no experience in those positions?

Buyouts ain’t free ya know

Duh LESHenfuher, they aren't going to be replaced. This is about shrinkage, not about replacement.

 

[imawhosure]

Right let me get this... This deal was to stay at home for 6 months and then leave the service.

2.3 million people work in Federal Government...
40,000 are taking the offer

So that is 1.74%...

The average civilian federal employee who retired in FY2022 was 62.3 years old and had completed 25.1 years of federal service.

How many people work for the federal government? | USAFacts

The federal government employs around 3 million people, making it the nation's 15th largest workforce.

usafacts.org

So the turnover of staff is 4% per year...

So 2% are retiring in the 6 months...

So 1 in every 8 retiring in the next 6 months decicded not to take this offer of free money for doing nothing.

Yeppers Cowboy phony, but you didn't mention that IF not enough people take the buyout, layoffs are coming. It is called.......cough/cough, leverage------------>you either take the buyout, OR you may be one of the people cut, getting nothing but an unemployment check.

 

[M14 Shooter]

How much is it going to cost the American taxpayer to install Trump loyalists with no experience in those positions?

Who said these people will be replaced?
Remember COVID? When only essential government employees had to go in to work?
if you aren't essential you do not need replaced.

 

[Lesh]

Who said these people will be replaced?
Remember COVID? When only essential government employees had to go in to work?
if you aren't essential you do not need replaced.

A. Buyouts cost money

B. We are already noting that vital agencies like the FAA are short staffed

So are we better off with short staffing at crucial agencies like the FBI and CIA?

Nope

 

[M14 Shooter]

A. Buyouts cost money

Buyouts for people not replaced are already budgeted for - you pay them 7 months of their budgeted salary and keep the rest.

B. We are already noting that vital agencies like the FAA are short staffed

What does this have to do with not replacing non-essential personnel?

Oh wait - nothing.

Tell me:
Why does the federal government have non-essential employees?

 

[22lcidw]

How much is it going to cost the American taxpayer to install Trump loyalists with no experience in those positions?

Buyouts ain’t free ya know

Teh cost it took to keep adding federal employees from Progs year after year when empowered and the millions of illegals costs a lot. If we were a little nasty, we would dump all the illegals on the other side of the wall and use weapons to keep them there. And just tell the federal workers to take a hike. You guys caused all of this. You played politics over country and use the word Democracy to push Progressive Socialist Communist agendas. Lighten up somewhat. You are not evolutionary anymore; you are very much revolutionary.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Lighten up somewhat. You are not evolutionary anymore; you are very much revolutionary.

There really isn't anything revolutionary about progressives any more - they simply exist to destroy as much capitalism as they can.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Oh gosh…..I know a HUD employee too. She told me the same thing - she had two hours of work a day. She’s a GS 14, S10, which in Washington is $180,000 a year.

HUD might be especially bad. I know they spend a lot of money helping deadbeats who aren’t paying their rent fight the landlord.

HUD is a DEI riddled cesspool of waste and corruption. It should be cancelled or at least cut to the bone.

 

[Lisa558]

HUD is a DEI riddled cesspool of waste and corruption. It should be cancelled or at least cut to the bone.

You wouldn’t believe what goes on there! They (WE) provide money to deadbeats who won’t pay their rent by covering the lawyer’s cost to fight the landlord.

IOW, we taxpayers are fighting landlords who want to evict deadbeats for non-payment, and a lot of the deadbeats don’t even speak English.

 

[DGS49]

After eight years with DoD (3 Army):

• The best people don't go to work for the government. If they have any ambition they go into the private sector, either in a corporation or an entrepreneur. You are talking about the figurative "bottom of the class." They have the degrees, but barely.
• There are some good, productive people working for the Feds, but they are side by side with mediocre people, and they don't want to topple the apple cart by being too good or productive.
• The workday that I saw was a joke. Extended breaks morning and afternoon, an a lunch break that is expanded dramatically. I worked in responsible positions for about a dozen companies over 35 years in the private sector, and I NEVER saw anything comparable to government work.
• People in small 'p' "professional" positions in the private sector work far more than forty hours per week. I never saw anyone work a minute of uncompensated overtime with DoD. My boss with DoD often spoke of the time when he worked a Saturday (for pay), and he was so disappointed with the small increase that made in his paycheck that he vowed never to do it again. And this was a GS13 executive speaking to his subordinates. Never in the private sector.
• Every large organization I ever worked for could lose ten percent of its headcount without impacting function. In the DoD offices where I worked, it could have been 25%, but that doesn't tell the whole story. If extraneous, unnecessary, and counterproductive work were eliminated, it could be 75% as long as the right people were retained.
• I agree with the poster above who opined that most of the ones who are taking the buyout are people who would be retiring in the next 18 months anyway. One hopes that they are not replaced with new hires.
• The "union" that represents Federal GS workers (they do not have true collective bargaining and cannot strike) is a cancer that can never be cured, and it is killing the taxpayers. They collude with every Democrat Administration to keep feathering their nest with pay raises, bonuses (virtually guaranteed), benefit enhancements, and protections for lazy, unproductive, incompetent, and even subversive employees.
• I wish DOGE the best, but their task is virtually impossible and would take at least three Trumpian Administrations to remove the removable fat. I should live so long.