More Strong Evidence for Evolution: Anatomical Vestiges

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Fort Fun Indiana

Calling my statement an authoritative declaration, is itself an authoritative declaration.

False, as anyone else can read the definition of the statement, which does not rely on who utters it.

Nice try.

not really

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Now please tell me, is "the square root of two is irrational" an "authoritative declaration"?

According to you, yes. That's the error you just made. I pointed it out. You're flailing.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Neither you nor anyone else can contradict the math.

This is you denying and ridiculing God's laws, while at the same time claiming to respect them.

This is you being intensely hypocritical.

You're blaming God for you own inability to understand the math.

Case closed. You lose.

The math says the odds of molecules forming cells are insurmountable. Same with mutated fish breathing and breeding underwater

 

[scruffy]

The math says the odds of molecules forming cells are insurmountable.

Bullshit.

Chem Engineer tried that crap on us, and I outed his stupidity, and now he's gone. Too ashamed to show his face anymore.

Same with mutated fish breathing and breeding underwater

You should learn some math before spouting off.

Frankly, creationists don't know the first damn thing about math, and they don't want to learn because it decimates their bullshit.

You can't assail the math. It's God's law, and it trumps your human arrogance every time.

Go do a little research on Google. Begin by verifying the numbers I gave you. Google "how many fish in the ocean" and "how many microbes on earth".

Then once you're satisfied I'm telling you the truth, we can review some basic probability theory.

Then you'll realize your claim of "insurmountable" is complete hogwash. Exactly the opposite is true. The probabilities approach 100%. With staggering levels of confidence.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Bullshit.

Chem Engineer tried that crap on us, and I outed his stupidity, and now he's gone. Too ashamed to show his face anymore.



You should learn some math before spouting off.

Frankly, creationists don't know the first damn thing about math, and they don't want to learn because it decimates their bullshit.

You can't assail the math. It's God's law, and it trumps your human arrogance every time.

Go do a little research on Google. Begin by verifying the numbers I gave you. Google "how many fish in the ocean" and "how many microbes on earth".

Then once you're satisfied I'm telling you the truth, we can review some basic probability theory.

Then you'll realize your claim of "insurmountable" is complete hogwash. Exactly the opposite is true. The probabilities approach 100%. With staggering levels of confidence.

Let's agree to disagree because you're wrong and out in a column with at least 8,000 zeros to it.

You cannot shuffle a deck of 52 cards the same way twice in all the time since the creation of the Universe, but there's a 100% certainty 2,000 proteins randomly assembled the first cell?

You could give a 5,000 gallon drum of amino acids a billion years to 'evolve' and you'd never once see a functioning cell.

Life is complex, because it is designed that way

I don't know why anyone would so adamantly defend randomness, mutations and entropy as the building blocks of the Life around us.

PoliticalChic has got a whole thread dedicated to trying to explain it.

I don't have the patience to penetrate an ego

 

[abu afak]

Let's agree to disagree because you're wrong and out in a column with at least 8,000 zeros to it.

You cannot shuffle a deck of 52 cards the same way twice in all the time since the creation of the Universe, but there's a 100% certainty 2,000 proteins randomly assembled the first cell?

You could give a 5,000 gallon drum of amino acids a billion years to 'evolve' and you'd never once see a functioning cell.

Life is complex, because it is designed that way

I don't know why anyone would so adamantly defend randomness, mutations and entropy as the building blocks of the Life around us.

PoliticalChic has got a whole thread dedicated to trying to explain it.

I don't have the patience to penetrate an ego

What are the Odds of this EXACT alignment when throwing pick Sticks? INFINITELY Remote
And yet someone did it!!!!

Of course Billions of people have thrown Unique arrays.

The shlt Has to land somewhere/in some arrangment.

And then you too can LOOKING BACK say "I did it." What are the odds!!!

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[scruffy]

Let's agree to disagree because you're wrong and out in a column with at least 8,000 zeros to it.

You cannot shuffle a deck of 52 cards the same way twice in all the time since the creation of the Universe, but there's a 100% certainty 2,000 proteins randomly assembled the first cell?

You could give a 5,000 gallon drum of amino acids a billion years to 'evolve' and you'd never once see a functioning cell.

Life is complex, because it is designed that way

I don't know why anyone would so adamantly defend randomness, mutations and entropy as the building blocks of the Life around us.

PoliticalChic has got a whole thread dedicated to trying to explain it.

I don't have the patience to penetrate an ego

You don't have the patience to do two simple Google searches?

You're not qualified to play this game.

You're blowing smoke. You don't know math and you refuse to learn.

PC ran from her own thread. She gave up. You should do the same.

 

[scruffy]

What are the Odds of this EXACT alignment when throwing pick Sticks? INFINITELY Remote
And yet someone did it!!!!
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Of course Millions/Billions of people have thrown Unique arrays.

The shit has to land somewhere/in some arrangment.

And then you too can say "I did it." What are the odds!!!

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I even gave him the calculators.

He won't use them. Doesn't know how.

Here's a clue:

What are the odds of getting exactly 500 heads by flipping a thousand coins?

Answer: 2.5%

What are the odds of getting at least 500 heads by flipping 1000 coins?

Answer: 50%

What are the odds of getting at least 500 heads by flipping a million coins?

Answer: 99.9999%

How many fish are in the ocean?

Answer: at least 2x10^12

How many microbes are on the earth?

Answer: 10^30 - as many water molecules as there are in 2 million liters of water.

What are the odds of two microbes having the exact same mutation at the exact same time?

Answer: 99.9999999999999999999999999999%

"Virtually certain". In every generation. With overwhelming confidence.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well that's 100% wrong.

Proof?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

False, as anyone else can read the definition of the statement, which does not rely on who utters it.

That's another authoritative statement.

Nice try.

not really

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

According to you, yes. That's the error you just made. I pointed it out. You're flailing.

A provably true statement is not well described as an "authoritative statement".

The square root of two being irrational can be proven to be true, but you don't know what proof means or irrational either even though your posts here prove that you are irrational.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Fort Fun Indiana

This is what I wrote that you take issue with:

Where did I "invent an answer"? I pointed out that one cannot use the laws of nature to explain why/how laws of nature exist and that - by definition - means one cannot ever construct a scientific explanation. That's not "inventing" an answer it's simply a deduction based on what constitutes a scientific explanation.

That's not an opinion, it's provably true because to deny it's truth leads to a paradox and paradox is always an error in reasoning or flawed premises.

Your faith that "one day we will explain it" is called the "scientism of the gaps" belief and many people suffer under this today.

Can you show me any examples from science where a phenomenon is explained in terms of the phenomenon? You cannot, go and look, try as hard as you want you will find no examples.

You don't know what proof means in logic, you don't even know what "explanation" means so no wonder you make absurd pronouncement here on a daily basis.

So back to your faith based reasoning, faith in scientism and stop pretending you understand any of this.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What are the Odds of this EXACT alignment when throwing pick Sticks? INFINITELY Remote
And yet someone did it!!!!

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Of course Billions of people have thrown Unique arrays.

The shlt Has to land somewhere/in some arrangment.

And then you too can LOOKING BACK say "I did it." What are the odds!!!

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OMG!!

You got it!!

That’s the whole reason why the Theory of Evolution” fails!!

Only one EXACT combination will create the conditions for a functioning cell

So you need the odds of throwing the pieces in ONE EXACT COMBINATION or you get a dead jumble, even at 99.99% accurate

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The math says the odds of molecules forming cells are insurmountable.

What math? Post it. You're just making stuff up.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A provably true statement is not well described as an "authoritative statement".

You cannot prove your statement. Not ever. You can only support it with ontological parlor tricks. That doesn't cut it.

And no, your little surveys of internet randos don't cut it, either.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Fort Fun Indiana

Merry Christmas to you:

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You cannot prove your statement. Not ever. You can only support it with ontological parlor tricks. That doesn't cut it.

And no, your little surveys of internet randos don't cut it, either.

Yet you still are unable to give an example of a scientific explanation that explains a thing in terms of itself, why is that?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Fort Fun Indiana

Merry Christmas to you:

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A nice description of what you religioners actually do, minis the scientific rigor and empirical observations and rigorous logic.

So what we have here is more amateur gaslighting.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yet you still are unable to give an example of a scientific explanation that explains a thing in terms of itself.

So what? Only someone completely bereft of any understanding of basic logic would think that supports the truth of a universal statement.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What math? Post it. You're just making stuff up.

Your math. The odds against 2,000 random proteins randomly assembling a functional cell