More record temps

[daveman]

Maybe if you stamp your feet and threaten to hold your breath until you turn blue, people will buy your nonsense. Because you don't have science on your side. All you have is emotionalism and unearned arrogance.

Oh, DaveDumb, you wouldn't know actual 'science' if it bit you. All you have is ignorant stupidity and arrogant cluelessness.

I've seen what you cultists are calling science. It's crap.

True story.

 

[Chris]

Maybe if you stamp your feet and threaten to hold your breath until you turn blue, people will buy your nonsense. Because you don't have science on your side. All you have is emotionalism and unearned arrogance.

Oh, DaveDumb, you wouldn't know actual 'science' if it bit you. All you have is ignorant stupidity and arrogant cluelessness.

I've seen what you cultists are calling science. It's crap.

True story.

HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We have melted 40% of the North polar ice cap in the last 50 years.

CO2 levels are the highest ever recorded, the the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 3 trillion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

Ocean temperatures are the highest ever recorded.

And the feedback effects of less ice and melting arctic methane will make it even worse.

We are warming the earth, my friends.

We don't care that you are a fruit cake.

And nobody minds that you are an clueless retard.

But none of that affects the fact that everything that Chris just said is provably true, you poor brainwashed fool.

Maybe if you stamp your feet and threaten to hold your breath until you turn blue, people will buy your nonsense. Because you don't have science on your side. All you have is emotionalism and unearned arrogance.

Oh, DaveDumb, you wouldn't know actual 'science' if it bit you. All you have is ignorant stupidity and arrogant cluelessness.

Yell like the melting arctic ice is making a cold snowy winter. You idiots need to get your peer review together before you make yourself look like even bigger idiots.

 

[daveman]

Oh, DaveDumb, you wouldn't know actual 'science' if it bit you. All you have is ignorant stupidity and arrogant cluelessness.

I've seen what you cultists are calling science. It's crap.

True story.

HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View

That's weather. And weather is not climate.

Continued massive thread fail.

 

[RollingThunder]

La Nina year, the second in a row. Should not be as warm as it has been through the winter, let alone having this kind of heat in March.

The ENSO has been in either a La Nina or a neutral phase for a long time, keeping parts of the Pacific ocean surface cooler and suppressing hurricane formation, but NASA says the current lingering La Niña conditions are expected to dissipate by the end of April this year and most of the climate models are predicting a transition to neutral ENSO state by the end of April and then a strong inclination towards a weak to moderate El Niño by July of 2012. If that happens, the second half of the year may wind up being much warmer than the first half of the year and the hurricane season may be very energetic in comparison to the last few years. Also the sun is coming out of an somewhat extended minimum period and is approaching a new solar maximum that is predicted to peak around May of 2013. This just-ending extra-long solar minimum combined with the long lingering La Nina conditions combined to slightly suppress the instrumental evidence of the ongoing warming trend induced by the rising levels of greenhouse gases, although that increase in thermal energy is still evident in other ways. But as these two natural cyclic factors switch polarities, so to speak, they will be amplifying the warming effects instead of masking them, which means we will probably see a number of new high world average temperature records set in the next few years. Perhaps not this year as a whole because of the lingering La Nina/neutral conditions through the summer, but almost certainly the latter part of this year and 2013 will set some new records, both for temperatures and for loss of Arctic ice mass and other climate change indicators.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I've seen what you cultists are calling science. It's crap.

True story.

HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View

That's weather. And weather is not climate.

Continued massive thread fail.

I bet chris would have been in real panic mode during hot temperature of the 1300's

 

[daveman]

HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View

That's weather. And weather is not climate.

Continued massive thread fail.

I bet chris would have been in real panic mode during hot temperature of the 1300's

American SUV and coal CO2 is SOOOOOO evil, it goes back in time and warms the earth!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We have melted 40% of the North polar ice cap in the last 50 years.

CO2 levels are the highest ever recorded, the the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 3 trillion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

Ocean temperatures are the highest ever recorded.

And the feedback effects of less ice and melting arctic methane will make it even worse.

We are warming the earth, my friends.

3 trillion tons?

Wow

That's almost a rounding error compared to the weight of the atmosphere

 

[daveman]

We have melted 40% of the North polar ice cap in the last 50 years.

CO2 levels are the highest ever recorded, the the Antarctic ice core record goes back 600,000 years.

We will add another 3 trillion tons of CO2 to the atmosphere in the next 100 years.

Ocean temperatures are the highest ever recorded.

And the feedback effects of less ice and melting arctic methane will make it even worse.

We are warming the earth, my friends.

3 trillion tons?

Wow

That's almost a rounding error compared to the weight of the atmosphere

The average mass of the atmosphere is about 5 quadrillion (5×1015) tonnes...​

...or 5.51155655 × 10 to the 15th power short tons, or 5,511,556,550,000,000 tons.

3 trillion is 0.0544 percent.

Yup. Rounding error. Lost in the background noise.

Got any more big scary numbers to frighten us with, Chris?

 

[FactFinder]

Weather events should not be confused with climate.

 

[westwall]

Weather events should not be confused with climate.

Ohhh, don't start using science and logic on them. It makes their heads hurt.

 

[saveliberty]

I see the Faithers are trying to scare us with drowning this week. We all have to do the backstroke by 2050. Poor bastards.

 

[RollingThunder]

Weather events should not be confused with climate.

Perhaps you're unclear about the actual difference between 'weather' and 'climate'.

Climate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Climate encompasses the statistics of temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological elemental measurements in a given region over long periods. Climate can be contrasted to weather, which is the present condition of these elements and their variations over shorter periods.

'Climate' is just the statistical average of all of the "weather events" that occurred over a long period. 'Weather' is the day to day actual conditions - temperature, rain, wind, etc..

Looking at statistical trends over time in something like record hot vs record cold temperatures is a study of climate trends and these trends are scientifically significant.

Preliminary Data Lift March Heat Records to Nearly 19 Times Cold Records
March 16, 2012
(excerpts)
The surge of early spring heat records reached over 400 yesterday alone in preliminary reports from the National Climatic Data Center. This includes 68 official National Weather Service locations out of 290 possible records. In other words, over 23% of all official reporting locations in the entire U.S. set new daily records for March 15. This brings the total number of new heat records for the month so far to 1757, which is 18.7 times the number of cold records. Including the number of ties, the total number of record high temperatures for March to date is nearly 2300. For the year to date, the ratio of heat records to cold records is over 14 to 1.

Monthly ratio of daily high temperature to low temperature records set in the U.S. for January 2011 through March 15, 2012, seasonal ratio for summer and fall 2011, winter 2011-2012, and annual ratio for 2012 and 2011

 

[daveman]

14 months of weather is not climate.

 

[bripat9643]

14 months of weather is not climate.

the number of "records" doesn't mean squat. One reason, they didn't have such good records in the past. Two, meteorologists can invent new criteria for records that were never used in the past.

They can't win on the global average temperature issue any longer, because that is obviously declining, so they invent some new statistic that they can easily maniuplate.

 

[daveman]

14 months of weather is not climate.

the number of "records" doesn't mean squat. One reason, they didn't have such good records in the past. Two, meteorologists can invent new criteria for records that were never used in the past.

They can't win on the global average temperature issue any longer, because that is obviously declining, so they invent some new statistic that they can easily maniuplate.

Of course. The science simply doesn't back up their claims.

 

[westwall]

Weather events should not be confused with climate.

Perhaps you're unclear about the actual difference between 'weather' and 'climate'.

Climate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Climate encompasses the statistics of temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological elemental measurements in a given region over long periods. Climate can be contrasted to weather, which is the present condition of these elements and their variations over shorter periods.

'Climate' is just the statistical average of all of the "weather events" that occurred over a long period. 'Weather' is the day to day actual conditions - temperature, rain, wind, etc..

Looking at statistical trends over time in something like record hot vs record cold temperatures is a study of climate trends and these trends are scientifically significant.

Preliminary Data Lift March Heat Records to Nearly 19 Times Cold Records
March 16, 2012
(excerpts)
The surge of early spring heat records reached over 400 yesterday alone in preliminary reports from the National Climatic Data Center. This includes 68 official National Weather Service locations out of 290 possible records. In other words, over 23% of all official reporting locations in the entire U.S. set new daily records for March 15. This brings the total number of new heat records for the month so far to 1757, which is 18.7 times the number of cold records. Including the number of ties, the total number of record high temperatures for March to date is nearly 2300. For the year to date, the ratio of heat records to cold records is over 14 to 1.

Monthly ratio of daily high temperature to low temperature records set in the U.S. for January 2011 through March 15, 2012, seasonal ratio for summer and fall 2011, winter 2011-2012, and annual ratio for 2012 and 2011

No, no, I think it has been shown quite clearly that you and your fellow religious fanatics have no clue how the world operates. Cause and Effect went out the window when the warming stopped and the temps leveled off.

Then, to further your religious asperations, your high priests have had to resort to all manner of fraud to try and prop up the tenets of AGW.

Nice try but like all frauds and religious cults you are doomed to fail....."IT'S YOUR DESTINY!"

 

[westwall]

14 months of weather is not climate.

According to them one DAY is "climate"!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Weather events should not be confused with climate.

Perhaps you're unclear about the actual difference between 'weather' and 'climate'.

Climate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Climate encompasses the statistics of temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological elemental measurements in a given region over long periods. Climate can be contrasted to weather, which is the present condition of these elements and their variations over shorter periods.

'Climate' is just the statistical average of all of the "weather events" that occurred over a long period. 'Weather' is the day to day actual conditions - temperature, rain, wind, etc..

Looking at statistical trends over time in something like record hot vs record cold temperatures is a study of climate trends and these trends are scientifically significant.

Preliminary Data Lift March Heat Records to Nearly 19 Times Cold Records
March 16, 2012
(excerpts)
The surge of early spring heat records reached over 400 yesterday alone in preliminary reports from the National Climatic Data Center. This includes 68 official National Weather Service locations out of 290 possible records. In other words, over 23% of all official reporting locations in the entire U.S. set new daily records for March 15. This brings the total number of new heat records for the month so far to 1757, which is 18.7 times the number of cold records. Including the number of ties, the total number of record high temperatures for March to date is nearly 2300. For the year to date, the ratio of heat records to cold records is over 14 to 1.

Monthly ratio of daily high temperature to low temperature records set in the U.S. for January 2011 through March 15, 2012, seasonal ratio for summer and fall 2011, winter 2011-2012, and annual ratio for 2012 and 2011

do you have the data that was discarded before peer review could take place?

 

[westwall]

14 months of weather is not climate.

the number of "records" doesn't mean squat. One reason, they didn't have such good records in the past. Two, meteorologists can invent new criteria for records that were never used in the past.

They can't win on the global average temperature issue any longer, because that is obviously declining, so they invent some new statistic that they can easily maniuplate.

Yep it's easy to set temp records when you only use weather stations surrounded by acres of tarmac like those at airports. How about using the weather stations out in the boondocks where there is no blacktop? OOOOOPPPs! Might not get the results they want now would they.


What a bunch of tools they are.