Money In Politics

[georgephillip]

More irrelevant quotes, memes and links. I never read this shit. You could save a lot of copying and pasting.

 

[Gaeandilth]

Sure, because government is mostly run by corporatists. They want to privatize the things that should remain solely the responsibility of government (like prisons), and socialize things they have no business encroaching on - like health care.

Because lowering the cost of living and doing business is a bad thing? How can anyone as economically ignorant as you waste bandwidth on a daily basis?

22 studies agree: 'Medicare for All' saves money

Get 100 studies and maybe one will be true. They make the math work with The green new deal too and have tons of demboys to back it up too does not make it true.

 

[Flash]

The filthy ass Federal government is almost a $5 trillion a year enterprise and everybody and their little brown dog wants to suck off that teat.

They will pay in either special interest votes or actual money to get to suck at one of the teats.

 

[CowboyTed]

For my entire life liberals have been whining about the amount of money in politics.

At the same time, for my entire life liberals have been whining for bigger and bigger government.

Liberals cannot see that the more control government has over our lives, the more money will be spent trying to gain that control.

If you want less money in politics, then you clearly and plainly need less government.

Think about this, too: No amount of legislation and no amount of Supreme Court rulings have stopped money pouring into politics. Money always finds a way.

As government has grown, so has the amount of money spent on lobbying and campaign donations. Figure it out, people!

So why aren't every EU country rife with Corruption with there bigger Government...

EU look at us loobying as just basically bribing...

So US has legally paid off politicians but the 1st Amendment is safe..

 

[Billiejeens]

We need a poor person running for president. They would get my vote without hesitation over any wealthy individual.

Because they have shown great decision making ability?

 

[gipper]

For my entire life liberals have been whining about the amount of money in politics.

At the same time, for my entire life liberals have been whining for bigger and bigger government.

Liberals cannot see that the more control government has over our lives, the more money will be spent trying to gain that control.

If you want less money in politics, then you clearly and plainly need less government.

Think about this, too: No amount of legislation and no amount of Supreme Court rulings have stopped money pouring into politics. Money always finds a way.

As government has grown, so has the amount of money spent on lobbying and campaign donations. Figure it out, people!

So why aren't every EU country rife with Corruption with there bigger Government...

EU look at us loobying as just basically bribing...

So US has legally paid off politicians but the 1st Amendment is safe..

Agreed, but the First Amendment is hardly safe. It’s under attack as the big social media platforms collude with big government to silence voices they find unacceptable.

 

[Billiejeens]

There is no popular vote to win or lose.
Why are you so dumb?

Is this your idea of democracy?

"As shown on the map... (above), the 2020 major-party nominees for President and Vice President are campaigning in only a small number of states.

"Of the 76 general-election campaign events by the candidates during the first 6 weeks of the 2020 campaign, almost three-quarters (55 of 76) have been in just 6 closely divided battleground states -- Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Florida, Michigan, and Minnesota."

Map of General-Election Campaign Events by 2020 Presidential Candidates

We are INTENTIONALLY not a Democracy
We are a Representative Republic.
Majority makes the rules while protecting minority rights.
That is the anthesis of Majority Mob Rule.
Again, this is not this hard.

 

[georgephillip]

You're an idiot

You're a slave

Capitalism & Classism: The Cause and Effect - CLASSISM

 

[Billiejeens]

You're an idiot

You're a slave

Capitalism & Classism: The Cause and Effect - CLASSISM

Poor Georgie

 

[georgephillip]

That and you are anti-american.

 

[Billiejeens]

That and you are anti-american.

Factually False.

 

[dblack]

We are INTENTIONALLY not a Democracy
We are a Representative Republic.
Majority makes the rules while protecting minority rights.
That is the anthesis of Majority Mob Rule.
Again, this is not this hard.

They understand. It's exactly what they're trying to change.

 

[22lcidw]

You're an idiot

You're a slave

Capitalism & Classism: The Cause and Effect - CLASSISM

There are a lot of players in your beliefs. The Fiat Currency plays it role. To offset a lot of what you say, using the principles of debt would have alleviated many problems. However, our federal government would have been much smaller and leaner. As consumers we all have to have things now. So we go into debt for it. Or we do not plane to pay down the interest as quick as we can. There are people who have done nothing but collect the interest and have gotten rich beyond any dream.

 

[Billiejeens]

We are INTENTIONALLY not a Democracy
We are a Representative Republic.
Majority makes the rules while protecting minority rights.
That is the anthesis of Majority Mob Rule.
Again, this is not this hard.

They understand. It's exactly what they're trying to change.

Where do you stand on that?

 

[dblack]

We are INTENTIONALLY not a Democracy
We are a Representative Republic.
Majority makes the rules while protecting minority rights.
That is the anthesis of Majority Mob Rule.
Again, this is not this hard.

They understand. It's exactly what they're trying to change.

Where do you stand on that?

I'm pretty fed up with democracy. Or at least the modern liberal conception of democracy.

Democracy is a fine way to make a decision when conformity is required, when it's essential that we're all on the same page. That's very rarely necessary, but statists have latched on to democracy as an all-purpose justification for bullying others. And they despise the fact that the Constitution was written largely as a bulwark against rampant majority rule.

 

[Billiejeens]

We are INTENTIONALLY not a Democracy
We are a Representative Republic.
Majority makes the rules while protecting minority rights.
That is the anthesis of Majority Mob Rule.
Again, this is not this hard.

They understand. It's exactly what they're trying to change.

Where do you stand on that?

I'm pretty fed up with democracy. Or at least the modern liberal conception of democracy.

Democracy is a fine way to make a decision when conformity is required, when it's essential that we're all on the same page. That's very rarely necessary, but statists have latched on to democracy as an all-purpose justification for bullying others. And they despise the fact that the Constitution was written largely as a bulwark against rampant majority rule.

Ok - thanks

 

[georgephillip]

So instead you would rather California. NY. Chicago decide it? I mean they run those cities so well I am sure we all want the rest of america to look just like those places.

What makes you think voters in a handful of "swing" states should decide who become POTUS?

Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote

"The shortcomings of the current system of electing the President stem from 'winner-take-all' laws that have been enacted by state legislatures in 48 states.

"These laws award all of a state’s electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most popular votes in each state.

"Because of these state winner-take-all statutes, presidential candidates have no reason to pay attention to the issues of concern to voters in states where the statewide outcome is a foregone conclusion.

"In 2012, as shown on the map, all of the 253 general-election campaign events were in just 12 states, and two-thirds were in just 4 states (Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and Iowa). Thirty-eight states were completely ignored.

 

[georgephillip]

Dems do the census in california we have millions of illegal aliens already giving them free seats in the house and pretty much giving them a HUGE head start in the electoral college. How dare Trump ask such a racist question as "are you an american citizen" on the AMERICAN census.

Census counts are based on the number of persons dwelling in the US. Bigots (like you) naturally want to limit this number to white male landowners, but you were born to late. Maybe you and your butt-bud would be happier living elsewhere?

 

[georgephillip]

Get 100 studies and maybe one will be true. They make the math work with The green new deal too and have tons of demboys to back it up too does not make it true.

Capitalism has never worked for a majority of human beings, and now it's failing in the US. The Green New Deal has the potential to put millions of Americans to work in living wage jobs, something the for-profit sector has given up on.

 

[georgephillip]

We are INTENTIONALLY not a Democracy
We are a Representative Republic.
Majority makes the rules while protecting minority rights.
That is the anthesis of Majority Mob Rule.
Again, this is not this hard.

Neither is this:

"The National Popular Vote bill has been enacted by 16 jurisdictions possessing 196 electoral votes, including 4 small states (DE, HI, RI, VT), 8 medium-sized states (CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA), 3 big states (CA, IL, NY), and the District of Columbia.

"The bill will take effect when enacted by states with 74 more electoral votes.

"The bill has passed at least one chamber in 9 additional states with 88 more electoral votes (AR, AZ, ME, MI, MN, NC, NV, OK, VA). A total of 3,408 state legislators from all 50 states have endorsed it."

Allowing the POTUS to be elected by voters in a handful of swing states doesn't represent a republic or democracy; if you're afraid of popular sovereignty, move to Russia or China.

Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote