Mitt Romney has written an editorial. It should prompt a national discussion. It won't.

[RetiredGySgt]

Weren’t 300,000 votes in GA in the 2020 race just proven to be fraudulent?

yes

 

[80zephyr]

Is that not what the "Ninja's " did? They had access to every single vote. Or are you saying that those complaining are just too lazy to prove anything?




Well, no you can't.




I have a voter ID. It's called a voters registration card. I've used it since 1980. Now you want me to jump through additional hoops to exercise my constitutionally protected right.

Screw off.

California doesn't require any ID to vote. Is that OK?

 

[pknopp]

California doesn't require any ID to vote. Is that OK?

https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/pdfs/voter-id-and-reg-requirements.pdf

 

[80zephyr]

https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/pdfs/voter-id-and-reg-requirements.pdf

Your link says you don't have to show ID to vote.

 

[pknopp]

Your link says you don't have to show ID to vote.

You showed ID when you registered.

 

[leftwinger]

You showed ID when you registered.

//* stupid evil trolling blind OX. You can use phony address, claim homeless. Word of honor you are citizen. Do it from NGO office or library PC or home. Ghost voters created for mail in fraud. I know. I lived there. I walked thru it to the last steps. *//


Yes, you can register to vote in California online without providing a California driver's license or ID number.
The online voter registration system at RegisterToVote.ca.gov allows individuals to register without these identifiers, and the website will generate a pre-filled application for you to print, sign, and mail.
If you do not have a California driver's license or ID number, you can still register online, and your county elections office will assign a unique identifier to validate your registration.
While no ID is required to register online, you must provide your date of birth and U.S. state or foreign country of birth, and if you have a California driver's license or ID number or the last four digits of your Social Security number, you should include them.
However, even without these numbers, the registration process can be completed online, and the form will be sent to your county elections office for processing.

 

[pknopp]

//* stupid blind OX. You can use phony address, claim homeless. Word of honor you are citizen. Do it from NGO office or library PC or home. Ghost voters created for mail in fraud. *//


Yes, you can register to vote in California online without providing a California driver's license or ID number.
The online voter registration system at RegisterToVote.ca.gov allows individuals to register without these identifiers, and the website will generate a pre-filled application for you to print, sign, and mail.
If you do not have a California driver's license or ID number, you can still register online, and your county elections office will assign a unique identifier to validate your registration.
While no ID is required to register online, you must provide your date of birth and U.S. state or foreign country of birth, and if you have a California driver's license or ID number or the last four digits of your Social Security number, you should include them.
However, even without these numbers, the registration process can be completed online, and the form will be sent to your county elections office for processing.

Blah, blah, blah. Investigation after investigation. Audit after audit. Lawsuit after lawsuit.

Next to nothing.

 

[georgephillip]

Mitt Romney: Tax the Rich, Like Me​

In 2012, political ads suggested that some of my policy proposals, if enacted, would amount to pushing grandma off a cliff. Actually, my proposals were intended to prevent that very thing from happening.

Today, all of us, including our grandmas, truly are headed for a cliff: If, as projected, the Social Security Trust Fund runs out in the 2034 fiscal year, benefits will be cut by about 23 percent. The government will need trillions of dollars to make up the shortfall. When lenders refuse to loan the money unless they are paid much higher interest rates, economic calamity will almost certainly ensue. Alternatively, the government could print more money, inducing hyperinflation that devalues the national debt — along with your savings.

Typically, Democrats insist on higher taxes, and Republicans insist on lower spending. But given the magnitude of our national debt as well as the proximity of the cliff, both are necessary. DOGE took a slash-and-burn approach to budget cutting and failed spectacularly. Europe demonstrates that exorbitant taxes without spending restraint crushes economic vitality and thus speeds how fast the cliff arrives.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/opinion/romney-tax-the-rich.html

The title applies to his belief the $176K income cap for social security taxes should be done away with.

I long opposed increasing the income level on which FICA employment taxes are applied (this year, the cap is $176,100). No longer; the consequences of the cliff have changed my mind.

The largest source of additional tax revenues is also probably the most compelling for fairness and social stability. Some call it closing tax code loopholes, but the term “loopholes” grossly understates their scale. “Caverns” or “caves” would be more fitting.

He goes on to say the "step up in basis" capital gains tax treatment for wealthy estates should be amended. Meaning, if you inherit an asset for which the owner would have faced a capital gains tax upon its disposal if the owner did so while still alive, you shouldn't be able to inherit the asset tax free.

The thread is not intended to start a debate on the details of Romney's recommendations. Rather, it is to highlight the impending shortfall in the SS trust requires the nation to have a serious debate over what to do about it. And soon.

So too we need to have a discussion about the debt, during which both higher taxes and lower spending are on the table. There are still more.

Many have said our elected representatives have failed us with the rise of partisanship leading to paralyzing gridlock. The result being critical issues are not being effectively addressed. I say we have failed ourselves by not electing serious and informed officials to represent us. A reflection of "we the people," who spend too much time entertaining ourselves and not enough learning about fact based solutions to problems that will bring this republic down if they are not resolved in an intelligent, thoughtful, forward looking way.

As part of that serious discussion concerning the security of Social Security, privatization schemes should be included:

AARP Statement on “Backdoor to Privatizing” Social Security

"WASHINGTON — Today, AARP Senior Vice President of Campaigns John Hishta issued the following statement on Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s comments on a 'backdoor to privatizing' Social Security:

"AARP condemns Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's endorsement of a 'backdoor' to Social Security privatization.

"We have fought any and all efforts to privatize Social Security, and we will continue to.

"President Trump has emphasized many times that Social Security 'won't be touched,' and that he is 'not going to touch Social Security.'

"This must include any and all forms of 'privatization.'

"More than 69 million Americans rely on Social Security. Social Security is the bedrock of American retirement, lifting tens of millions of seniors out of poverty and providing an inflation-proof retirement for all.

"President Trump has said that Social Security should be protected and strengthened, and his Administration needs to be clear: any form of Social Security privatization is unacceptable."

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/pdfs/voter-id-and-reg-requirements.pdf

Cut the crap, we both know they don’t enforce it.

 

[pknopp]

Cut the crap, we both know they don’t enforce it.

And yet we don't.

Lawsuit after lawsuit. Audit after audit. Investigation after investigation.

Next to nothing.

 

[berg80]

yes

Link, please.

 

[berg80]

As part of that serious discussion concerning the security of Social Security, privatization schemes should be included:

AARP Statement on “Backdoor to Privatizing” Social Security

"WASHINGTON — Today, AARP Senior Vice President of Campaigns John Hishta issued the following statement on Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s comments on a 'backdoor to privatizing' Social Security:

"AARP condemns Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's endorsement of a 'backdoor' to Social Security privatization.

"We have fought any and all efforts to privatize Social Security, and we will continue to.

"President Trump has emphasized many times that Social Security 'won't be touched,' and that he is 'not going to touch Social Security.'

"This must include any and all forms of 'privatization.'

"More than 69 million Americans rely on Social Security. Social Security is the bedrock of American retirement, lifting tens of millions of seniors out of poverty and providing an inflation-proof retirement for all.

"President Trump has said that Social Security should be protected and strengthened, and his Administration needs to be clear: any form of Social Security privatization is unacceptable."

Shrub tried to do the same thing when he thought he had political "capital" to spend after the 2004 election. His idea got slammed by the public.

 

[toobfreak]

I've been hearing the same shit from conservatives for four decades now.

40 years? So, you've been listening to political dialog since you were age ten?

Damn--- most people would know what they're talking about after all of that time.

 

[leftwinger]

And yet we don't.

Lawsuit after lawsuit. Audit after audit. Investigation after investigation.

Next to nothing.

Not in CA you lying Stain. Deep State courts stalled or dismissed it all in other states.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

40 years? So, you've been listening to political dialog since you were age ten?

Damn--- most people would know what they're talking about after all of that time.

Thought one of your areas of "expertise" was numbers?
If so, your math....sucks....
Something I know you probably hear a lot.

And yes slugger, I've been listening to Republican BS since 1982.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Link, please.

it was linked I am sorry you are not UpToDate on this thread.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You showed ID when you registered.

I thought minorities couldn't get ID?

 

[pknopp]

I thought minorities couldn't get ID?

I can't get too concerned over what you thought.

 

[Marener]

//* stupid evil trolling blind OX. You can use phony address, claim homeless. Word of honor you are citizen. Do it from NGO office or library PC or home. Ghost voters created for mail in fraud. I know. I lived there. I walked thru it to the last steps. *//


Yes, you can register to vote in California online without providing a California driver's license or ID number.
The online voter registration system at RegisterToVote.ca.gov allows individuals to register without these identifiers, and the website will generate a pre-filled application for you to print, sign, and mail.
If you do not have a California driver's license or ID number, you can still register online, and your county elections office will assign a unique identifier to validate your registration.
While no ID is required to register online, you must provide your date of birth and U.S. state or foreign country of birth, and if you have a California driver's license or ID number or the last four digits of your Social Security number, you should include them.
However, even without these numbers, the registration process can be completed online, and the form will be sent to your county elections office for processing.

And anyone that does this should definitely go to jail for voter fraud, right?

 

[BluesLegend]

Mitt Romney: Tax the Rich, Like Me​

Mitt Romney, RINO and turncoat traitor of the first order.