Mitt Romney has written an editorial. It should prompt a national discussion. It won't.

[pknopp]

Right, I meant to say they can't audit 150 million votes.



Neat, but it isn't required. It should be.

it is required. Then I have to sign off and they check that with my signature on record.

 

[SweetTea]

it is required. Then I have to sign off and they check that with my signature on record.

It certainly isn't required in every state.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No they can't.




I show my ID.

most states it isnt required.

 

[pknopp]

It certainly isn't required in every state.

But you still want me to jump through additional hoops.

 

[SweetTea]

I'm not going to ask about your household income, but a 1%er family making half a million a year can probably afford to pay another $10-15k in taxes without that much trouble.

Actually, it would be about $1700/mth MORE for this family. Sorry, that is very punitive. It is not a reasonable solution. It is reasonable to some because they don't pay it. Everyone should have some additional skin the the game to fix the problem. SS is already rigged to some extent against those who pay the most into it. I can only imagine that the "pay their fair share" crowd would still be in full force even if this cap was removed.

 

[SweetTea]

But you still want me to jump through additional hoops.

No additional hoops. Provide a state issued photo ID so they can verify who you are before voting. You know, like you have to do to buy alcohol or a myriad of other things.

 

[pknopp]

No additional hoops. Provide a state issued photo ID so they can verify who you are before voting. You know, like you have to do to buy alcohol or a myriad of other things.

I've used my voters registration card since 1980. Your double speak is noted.

 

[SweetTea]

I've used my voters registration card since 1980. Your double speak is noted.

That isn't enough. Photo ID should be required. I told you why above, but you are evidently one of those that doesn't really want a secure election. A secure election would eliminate much of the shenanigans the Democrats have been pulling for years.

 

[pknopp]

That isn't enough. Photo ID should be required. I told you why above, but you are evidently one of those that doesn't really want a secure election. A secure election would eliminate much of the shenanigans the Democrats have been pulling for years.

You told me your mistaken ideas.

 

[justoffal]

Mitt Romney: Tax the Rich, Like Me​

In 2012, political ads suggested that some of my policy proposals, if enacted, would amount to pushing grandma off a cliff. Actually, my proposals were intended to prevent that very thing from happening.

Today, all of us, including our grandmas, truly are headed for a cliff: If, as projected, the Social Security Trust Fund runs out in the 2034 fiscal year, benefits will be cut by about 23 percent. The government will need trillions of dollars to make up the shortfall. When lenders refuse to loan the money unless they are paid much higher interest rates, economic calamity will almost certainly ensue. Alternatively, the government could print more money, inducing hyperinflation that devalues the national debt — along with your savings.

Typically, Democrats insist on higher taxes, and Republicans insist on lower spending. But given the magnitude of our national debt as well as the proximity of the cliff, both are necessary. DOGE took a slash-and-burn approach to budget cutting and failed spectacularly. Europe demonstrates that exorbitant taxes without spending restraint crushes economic vitality and thus speeds how fast the cliff arrives.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/opinion/romney-tax-the-rich.html

The title applies to his belief the $176K income cap for social security taxes should be done away with.

I long opposed increasing the income level on which FICA employment taxes are applied (this year, the cap is $176,100). No longer; the consequences of the cliff have changed my mind.

The largest source of additional tax revenues is also probably the most compelling for fairness and social stability. Some call it closing tax code loopholes, but the term “loopholes” grossly understates their scale. “Caverns” or “caves” would be more fitting.

He goes on to say the "step up in basis" capital gains tax treatment for wealthy estates should be amended. Meaning, if you inherit an asset for which the owner would have faced a capital gains tax upon its disposal if the owner did so while still alive, you shouldn't be able to inherit the asset tax free.

The thread is not intended to start a debate on the details of Romney's recommendations. Rather, it is to highlight the impending shortfall in the SS trust requires the nation to have a serious debate over what to do about it. And soon.

So too we need to have a discussion about the debt, during which both higher taxes and lower spending are on the table. There are still more.

Many have said our elected representatives have failed us with the rise of partisanship leading to paralyzing gridlock. The result being critical issues are not being effectively addressed. I say we have failed ourselves by not electing serious and informed officials to represent us. A reflection of "we the people," who spend too much time entertaining ourselves and not enough learning about fact based solutions to problems that will bring this republic down if they are not resolved in an intelligent, thoughtful, forward looking way.

Absolutely nobody gives a shit what mitt Romney has to say. That Romney is an opportunistic political chameleon.

 

[berg80]

it is required. Then I have to sign off and they check that with my signature on record.

In CO signatures are verified by two workers of different parties at the county facility where votes are counted. They do so by looking at a computer screen comparing the signature on record with the ballot signature. If they can't agree on the signature's authenticity a notice is sent to the voter telling him/her their signature needs to be verified by them.

 

[pknopp]

In CO signatures are verified by two workers of different parties at the county facility where votes are counted. They do so by looking at a computer screen comparing the signature on record with the ballot signature. If they can't agree on the signature's authenticity a notice is sent to the voter telling him/her their signature needs to be verified by them.

I think some (many)? Complaining have never actually voted.

 

[SweetTea]

You told me your mistaken ideas.

So, no photo ID because that is just too much trouble. Gotcha.

 

[pknopp]

So, no photo ID because that is just too much trouble. Gotcha.

Because screw your conspiracy theories.

 

[Marener]

Actually, it would be about $1700/mth MORE for this family. Sorry, that is very punitive. It is not a reasonable solution. It is reasonable to some because they don't pay it. Everyone should have some additional skin the the game to fix the problem. SS is already rigged to some extent against those who pay the most into it. I can only imagine that the "pay their fair share" crowd would still be in full force even if this cap was removed.

This means your family is making at minimum half a million income every year.

I'm sorry, but it really isn't that big of a hardship. Not the kind of apocalyptic damage you're trying to make it out to be.

 

[berg80]

I think some (many)? Complaining have never actually voted.

I'm not familiar with that right wing fantasy. CO is a national leader in mail-in voting with a stellar track record of accuracy and integrity.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Correct.

The Myth of Voter Fraud​

The Myth of Voter Fraud

Extensive research reveals that fraud is very rare. Yet repeated, false allegations of fraud can make it harder for millions of eligible Americans to participate in elections.

www.brennancenter.org

Weren’t 300,000 votes in GA in the 2020 race just proven to be fraudulent?

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

This means your family is making at minimum half a million income every year.

I'm sorry, but it really isn't that big of a hardship. Not the kind of apocalyptic damage you're trying to make it out to be.

Once again, trying to steal from others.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

I'm not familiar with that right wing fantasy. CO is a national leader in mail-in voting with a stellar track record of accuracy and integrity.

And fraud. But it’s ok we will end it federal. I mean after all it’s not Dem voters are so stupid or lazy they can’t make their way to the polling station.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Oh, you want to convince me your worried about the effects it'll have on your kids?

******* hell man, have you considered what's going to happen to your kids if we don't figure this out?

I'm not going to ask about your household income, but a 1%er family making half a million a year can probably afford to pay another $10-15k in taxes without that much trouble.

“ you have more money, give it to what I think it should be used on”-You


I have an idea how buddy he keeps his money and you **** all the way off?