MIDS harass Treasury Sec and chase him out of DC restaurant

[Marener]

Yes, indeed foreign manufacturers do absorb some of the tariffs. They didn't tell you that on MSNBC?

The effects became especially visible during the 2018 tariff war. At the product level, prior studies using aggregate data (such as the average price or worth of a unit, known as a unit value, across all imports) concluded that the costs of the tariff passed through to the importers—and their end consumers—by the exporters was nearly complete: tariffs raised import prices one-for-one. But when the authors zoomed in on repeated relationships between specific U.S. importers and foreign exporters, they found something different. Pass-through was only about 65–70 percent.

That gap matters. It means that rather than simply being passed along to U.S. consumers, a substantial portion of tariff costs were absorbed by foreign firms. But crucially, not all U.S. firms experienced this equally. Large buyers with significant bargaining power paid less. Smaller importers faced higher prices.

Market Power Shifts Tariff Costs to Suppliers - ProMarket

Sorry, but the line from the Trump administration was that other countries would be paying the tariffs.

Other countries may pay a narrow fraction of the tariff, but that’s not the claim Trump was making.

This is the kind of gaslighting that doesn’t work on people who aren’t ignorant and idealistic.

 

[Meister]

I hate to break it to you, but search warrants are in the constitution. The DoJ is not violating any civil rights by doing so.

You haven't been keeping up on the documents that have come to light. Educate yourself
and stop being such a tool. Like I stated earlier,, you just can't help yourself.

 

[Marener]

You haven't been keeping up on the documents that have come to light. Educate yourself
and stop being such a tool. Like I stated earlier,, you just can't help yourself.

I have, and they change nothing.

Did you fall for the blowhards who told you otherwise?

What’s funny? Even Aileen Cannon, who bent over backwards to help Trump, wasn’t swayed. She didn’t even grant a preliminary hearing to talk about it. She just told the defense that they’re full of shit.

Even Judge Cannon didn't buy Trump's narrative about the FBI's 'criminal raid' on Mar-a-Lago

Not even the Trump-appointed judge who ruled Jack Smith was unlawfully appointed said what Trump has regarding the Mar-a-Lago search.

lawandcrime.com

You just don’t know what you’re talking about. All you do is repeat the bullshit they feed you, regardless of how stupid it makes you look.

 

[Meister]

I have, and they change nothing.

Did you fall for the blowhards who told you otherwise?

What’s funny? Even Aileen Cannon, who bent over backwards to help Trump, wasn’t swayed. She didn’t even grant a preliminary hearing to talk about it. She just told the defense that they’re full of shit.

Even Judge Cannon didn't buy Trump's narrative about the FBI's 'criminal raid' on Mar-a-Lago

Not even the Trump-appointed judge who ruled Jack Smith was unlawfully appointed said what Trump has regarding the Mar-a-Lago search.

lawandcrime.com

You just don’t know what you’re talking about. All you do is repeat the bullshit they feed you, regardless of how stupid it makes you look.

The FBI said they shouldn't raid Mar a Lago. It's in the damn documents that you won't read.
You don't want the truth, This is what I've been saying about you.
With the republicans cell phones.......they had nothing but wanted to go fishing.
Damn you're stupid marener. I'm done with your stupidity, just keep lying, it's what you do.

 

[eagle1462010]

The Dems aren’t used to the other side giving them a taste of their own medicine.

I LOVE IT.

its about time.

 

[Marener]

The FBI said they shouldn't raid Mar a Lago. It's in the damn documents that you won't read.
You don't want the truth, This is what I've been saying about you.
With the republicans cell phones.......they had nothing but wanted to go fishing.
Damn you're stupid marener. I'm done with your stupidity, just keep lying, it's what you do.

I read them, and it’s not news. This was brought up in court filings back in 2024.

Here’s the thing. Someone in the FBI thought they didn’t have probable cause. They’re welcome to their opinion, but it was wrong. They did have probable cause. Not only that, the lawyers at the DoJ who make these decisions were spot on about the need for the warrant because Trump wasn’t going to turn them over himself.

You’re running away because you just aren’t smart enough to discuss the topic.

 

[BULLDOG]

Me too, unlike BULLDOG i would prefer rejecting actual people acting like Hitler’s. Brownshirts and attacking innocent people simply having dinner, then deflecting with claims of other people alleging Trump praised Hitler

Of course you would. That's what any trump cult member would do

 

[eagle1462010]

Of course you would. That's what any trump cult member would do

Awe that Cult Word again.

Im gonna cry that ****** leftist called us names.

 

[struth]

Of course you would. That's what any trump cult member would do

Yeah…any normal person

 

[BULLDOG]

Awe that Cult Word again.

Im gonna cry that ****** leftist called us names.

It does bother you, and it should.

 

[eagle1462010]

It does bother you, and it should.

Not at all. You are full of BS

 

[Correll]

Oh, he’s definitely a disgusting human being. Just look at his behavior with Epstein. He deserves no respect whatsoever. But you will ignore it.

Compared to the behavior of your sainted elites, yelling at someone in a restaurant is the least of societies worries.

You cite allegations as though they are fact.

The reality of this thread is that I want people to live in peace despite having political differences,

and you want to bully those that disagree with you.


YOU are the bad person.

 

[Marener]

You cite allegations as though they are fact.

The reality of this thread is that I want people to live in peace despite having political differences,

and you want to bully those that disagree with you.


YOU are the bad person.

You no longer know what facts are. You only believe what MAGA and Trump tell you to believe.

 

[Correll]

You no longer know what facts are. You only believe what MAGA and Trump tell you to believe.

I see you making your arguments supporting the bullying right in this thread. That is not maga telling me of it, that is YOU showing me what you want.

I am here, arguing for the right of people to live in peace. YOU are arguing in favor of bullying them.


That is the reality of our conflict. That is not something other people are telling us, that is us manifesting the differences in our beliefs.


You are the bad guy. YOu are being the bad guy, right here, demonstrating how you are the bad guy.

Your attempt to hide this with shit talk is... just a tactic designed by bad people to trick people into not realizing how bad they are, so that they are fought the way they need to be.


Good people, or even neutral or bad people that want to live in a civilized society, need to fight people like you, who want to live in a totalitarian hell.

 

[Marener]

I see you making your arguments supporting the bullying right in this thread. That is not maga telling me of it, that is YOU showing me what you want.

I am here, arguing for the right of people to live in peace. YOU are arguing in favor of bullying them.


That is the reality of our conflict. That is not something other people are telling us, that is us manifesting the differences in our beliefs.


You are the bad guy. YOu are being the bad guy, right here, demonstrating how you are the bad guy.

Your attempt to hide this with shit talk is... just a tactic designed by bad people to trick people into not realizing how bad they are, so that they are fought the way they need to be.


Good people, or even neutral or bad people that want to live in a civilized society, need to fight people like you, who want to live in a totalitarian hell.

Bessent gets to live in peace because the law protects him.

But as a proto wanna be fascist, the law doesn’t protect people you disagree with.

 

[Correll]

Bessent gets to live in peace because the law protects him.

But as a proto wanna be fascist, the law doesn’t protect people you disagree with.

No, he doesn't. THe law did NOT protect him. He was bullied and driven from the restaurant.

You support that.


YOu call him a "facist" to justify your bullying.


That is not maga telling me that. That is you doing it, right here in this thread.


The fact that you feel a need to lie about what you are doing, RIGHT NOW, is a massive red flag, that on some level, your brain realizes that you are in the wrong.


The correct answer is to CHANGE YOUR POSITION.


The liberal answer is to double down.

 

[Marener]

No, he doesn't. THe law did NOT protect him. He was bullied and driven from the restaurant.

You support that.


YOu call him a "facist" to justify your bullying.


That is not maga telling me that. That is you doing it, right here in this thread.


The fact that you feel a need to lie about what you are doing, RIGHT NOW, is a massive red flag, that on some level, your brain realizes that you are in the wrong.


The correct answer is to CHANGE YOUR POSITION.


The liberal answer is to double down.

Being bullied isn’t against the law.

Just ask anyone who tries to walk into an abortion clinic.

 

[SweetTea]

Sorry, but the line from the Trump administration was that other countries would be paying the tariffs.

Other countries may pay a narrow fraction of the tariff, but that’s not the claim Trump was making.

This is the kind of gaslighting that doesn’t work on people who aren’t ignorant and idealistic.

Are you nitpicking about “paying” tariffs vs “absorbing“ tariffs?

If foreign exporters lower their prices in response to a tariff, they bear part of the economic burden of the tariff. Agreed? That burden effectively finances part of the tariff revenue collected by the U.S., even though the legal tax payment is made by U.S. importers. Get it yet?

 

[pknopp]

The FBI said they shouldn't raid Mar a Lago. It's in the damn documents that you won't read.
You don't want the truth, This is what I've been saying about you.
With the republicans cell phones.......they had nothing but wanted to go fishing.
Damn you're stupid marener. I'm done with your stupidity, just keep lying, it's what you do.

The FBI is corrupt. Mar a Lago certainly should have been raided. So should have Biden's garage and if the FBI actually did it's job likely many other places.

 

[Marener]

Are you nitpicking about “paying” tariffs vs “absorbing“ tariffs?

If foreign exporters lower their prices in response to a tariff, they bear part of the economic burden of the tariff. Agreed? That burden effectively finances part of the tariff revenue collected by the U.S., even though the legal tax payment is made by U.S. importers. Get it yet?

So when Trump and his administration was saying that other countries will pay the tariffs, they really meant that other countries would pay maybe 20%?

I don’t buy that, because that’s a stupid thing to suggest.