Michael. Remember That Name. Trump Employee 2 -- Molly Michael.

[Dante Reawakened]

Smith's indictment against Trump alleges that Trump asked one of his attorneys at the time, "Wouldn't it be better if we just told them we don't have anything here?"

Trump wrote to-do lists for assistant on White House documents marked classified: Sources

A long-time assistant to former President Trump told investigators that Trump wrote to-do lists for her on documents that were marked classified, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

Speaking to federal investigators, Michael recounted how, by late 2021, as many as 90 boxes of materials from Trump's time as president were moved into a basement storage room at Mar-a-Lago, and how -- as pressure from the National Archives mounted -- she and Trump aide Walt Nauta would bring boxes to Trump's residence for him to review.

...

The indictment also accuses Trump of trying "to obstruct the FBI and grand jury investigations" by, among other things, providing "just some of the documents called for by the grand jury subpoena, while claiming that he was cooperating fully."

In her statements to investigators, as described by sources to ABC News, Michael noted that when the FBI first contacted her for an interview as part of their investigation last year, she notified Trump about the request. In response, he told her, "You don't know anything about the boxes," she told investigators, according to the sources.

...

In addition, after the Justice Department weeks later issued a second subpoena for security camera footage from inside Mar-a-Lago, Trump tried to have some of that footage deleted "to conceal information from the FBI and grand jury," the indictment alleged.

Alongside Trump, the indictment also charged Nauta and the other Trump aide, Carlos de Oliveira, for their alleged roles in the conspiracy to hide classified documents from the FBI.


The above story shows us how it's not looking good for any defense by Trump's team. Not good. Not good at all. When trials starts, Hunter Biden's trouble might be brought up again and again by MAGA Republicans, but that will not be a legal argument.

This all reads like a really, really poorly written novel. The characters involved are weak, and the protagonist?

 

[lennypartiv]

Why are we wasting time talking about the documents Trump declassified?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Why are we wasting time talking about the documents Trump declassified?

RIght:

One of former President Donald Trump's long-time assistants told federal investigators that Trump repeatedly wrote to-do lists for her on documents from the White House that were marked classified, according to sources familiar with her statements.

As described to ABC News, the aide, Molly Michael, told investigators that -- more than once -- she received requests or taskings from Trump that were written on the back of notecards, and she later recognized those notecards as sensitive White House materials -- with visible classification markings -- used to brief Trump while he was still in office about phone calls with foreign leaders or other international-related matters.

The notecards with classification markings were at Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate when FBI agents searched the property on Aug. 8, 2022 -- but the materials were not taken by the FBI, according to sources familiar with what Michael told investigators.

Trump wrote to-do lists for assistant on White House documents marked classified: Sources

A long-time assistant to former President Trump told investigators that Trump wrote to-do lists for her on documents that were marked classified, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Esdraelon]

Why are we wasting time talking about the documents Trump declassified?

Because these shills see it as their last, best hope of stopping him from running. They simply will not admit he can't be stopped over any legal issues they bring up. They seem to think his support can be lessened due to some of his employees turning State's evidence against him. The idiots aren't smart enough to know that most of his supporters fully understand that put in a similar box, anyone who isn't a billionaire is FORCED to face prison or to say exactly what the corrupt prosecutors tell them to say.

It's one of the most egregious problems within our justice system today. NO citizen can stand up under an endless assault from a government that has no limit on its spending and who's willing to use it to crush anyone they want to crush.

There should be a law that any citizen who is unable to pay for their counsel when being prosecuted by DoJ, should have those expenses met for as long as it takes to get an equitable trial finished.

 

[Esdraelon]

There has never been a president prior to Trump that has been held to such a standard. SCOTUS will overturn any decision that effectively declares that a bureaucrat in DC has more power than a sitting POTUS. It has long been accepted that any sitting president has full authority to classify or declassify any information as and when he sees fit. Precedent will blow your partisan case out of the ballpark, low life.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Yeah, no other president has lied, cried, hid documents, moved documents, all to not give them back, Esdraelon,

 

[Dante Reawakened]

There has never been a president prior to Trump that has been held to such a standard. SCOTUS will overturn any decision that effectively declares that a bureaucrat in DC has more power than a sitting POTUS. It has long been accepted that any sitting president has full authority to classify or declassify any information as and when he sees fit. Precedent will blow your partisan case out of the ballpark, low life.

There's nothing in the indictment about Mr Trump's actions while he was in office. Read the indictment: "Trump ceased to be president."

please try to read and comprehend the indictment. It states simply that “As president, Trump had lawful access to the most sensitive classified documents and national defense information gathered and owned by the United States government,” a federal indictment unsealed Friday states in its opening sentences. “At 12:00 PM on January 20, 2021, Trump ceased to be president” and was no longer “authorized to possess or retain those classified documents.”

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Because these shills see it as their last, best hope of stopping him from running. They simply will not admit he can't be stopped over any legal issues they bring up. They seem to think his support can be lessened due to some of his employees turning State's evidence against him. The idiots aren't smart enough to know that most of his supporters fully understand that put in a similar box, anyone who isn't a billionaire is FORCED to face prison or to say exactly what the corrupt prosecutors tell them to say.

It's one of the most egregious problems within our justice system today. NO citizen can stand up under an endless assault from a government that has no limit on its spending and who's willing to use it to crush anyone they want to crush.

There should be a law that any citizen who is unable to pay for their counsel when being prosecuted by DoJ, should have those expenses met for as long as it takes to get an equitable trial finished.

Your hatred of America is duly noted.

 

[Esdraelon]

Yeah, no other president has lied, cried, hid documents, moved documents, all to not give them back, Esdraelon,

Bullshit. The only thing unique about the Bad Orange Man is that he wasn't pre-approved by the DC cabal. I'm going to enjoy watching you shills losing your minds after he skates past all of these traps put in his way. It's not that I think he'll ever sit in the office again. Your thugs in DC will do WHATEVER it takes to stop that but at least they won't stop him from running and brutalizing whoever your POS candidate turns out to be.

 

[Orangecat]

Smith's indictment against Trump alleges that Trump asked one of his attorneys at the time, "Wouldn't it be better if we just told them we don't have anything here?"

Trump wrote to-do lists for assistant on White House documents marked classified: Sources

A long-time assistant to former President Trump told investigators that Trump wrote to-do lists for her on documents that were marked classified, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

Speaking to federal investigators, Michael recounted how, by late 2021, as many as 90 boxes of materials from Trump's time as president were moved into a basement storage room at Mar-a-Lago, and how -- as pressure from the National Archives mounted -- she and Trump aide Walt Nauta would bring boxes to Trump's residence for him to review.

...

The indictment also accuses Trump of trying "to obstruct the FBI and grand jury investigations" by, among other things, providing "just some of the documents called for by the grand jury subpoena, while claiming that he was cooperating fully."

In her statements to investigators, as described by sources to ABC News, Michael noted that when the FBI first contacted her for an interview as part of their investigation last year, she notified Trump about the request. In response, he told her, "You don't know anything about the boxes," she told investigators, according to the sources.

...

In addition, after the Justice Department weeks later issued a second subpoena for security camera footage from inside Mar-a-Lago, Trump tried to have some of that footage deleted "to conceal information from the FBI and grand jury," the indictment alleged.

Alongside Trump, the indictment also charged Nauta and the other Trump aide, Carlos de Oliveira, for their alleged roles in the conspiracy to hide classified documents from the FBI.


The above story shows us how it's not looking good for any defense by Trump's team. Not good. Not good at all. When trials starts, Hunter Biden's trouble might be brought up again and again by MAGA Republicans, but that will not be a legal argument.

This all reads like a really, really poorly written novel. The characters involved are weak, and the protagonist?

Asking your lawyer a legal question is a crime now?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

"Yeah, no other president has lied, cried, hid documents, moved documents, all to not give them back," to repeat.

 

[Grumblenuts]

“At 12:00 PM on January 20, 2021, Trump ceased to be president”

That's no indictment. That's cause for celebration.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Why are we wasting time talking about the documents Trump declassified?

What documents indictment does classification level matter?

 

[Frankenstein]

Smith's indictment against Trump alleges that Trump asked one of his attorneys at the time, "Wouldn't it be better if we just told them we don't have anything here?"

Trump wrote to-do lists for assistant on White House documents marked classified: Sources

A long-time assistant to former President Trump told investigators that Trump wrote to-do lists for her on documents that were marked classified, sources say.

abcnews.go.com

Speaking to federal investigators, Michael recounted how, by late 2021, as many as 90 boxes of materials from Trump's time as president were moved into a basement storage room at Mar-a-Lago, and how -- as pressure from the National Archives mounted -- she and Trump aide Walt Nauta would bring boxes to Trump's residence for him to review.

...

The indictment also accuses Trump of trying "to obstruct the FBI and grand jury investigations" by, among other things, providing "just some of the documents called for by the grand jury subpoena, while claiming that he was cooperating fully."

In her statements to investigators, as described by sources to ABC News, Michael noted that when the FBI first contacted her for an interview as part of their investigation last year, she notified Trump about the request. In response, he told her, "You don't know anything about the boxes," she told investigators, according to the sources.

...

In addition, after the Justice Department weeks later issued a second subpoena for security camera footage from inside Mar-a-Lago, Trump tried to have some of that footage deleted "to conceal information from the FBI and grand jury," the indictment alleged.

Alongside Trump, the indictment also charged Nauta and the other Trump aide, Carlos de Oliveira, for their alleged roles in the conspiracy to hide classified documents from the FBI.


The above story shows us how it's not looking good for any defense by Trump's team. Not good. Not good at all. When trials starts, Hunter Biden's trouble might be brought up again and again by MAGA Republicans, but that will not be a legal argument.

This all reads like a really, really poorly written novel. The characters involved are weak, and the protagonist?

Why are we wasting time on someone who has been paid off to say exactly what she has been told to say?

 

[Marener]

Asking your lawyer a legal question is a crime now?

It indicates his state of mind. Trump had a desire to hide documents from the DoJ.

 

[Orangecat]

It indicates his state of mind. Trump had a desire to hide documents from the DoJ.

Ah, the old "thought crime" approach. Pathetic even for you, Moroner.

 

[Marener]

Ah, the old "thought crime" approach. Pathetic even for you, Moroner.

Uh, no. The crime is obstruction of Justice.

I don’t suppose you’ve ever heard the term: mens rea?

 

[Catsnmeters]

Why are we wasting time on someone who has been paid off to say exactly what she has been told to say?

He got paid to lie under oath?

You must have proof to make such a bold claim or you would look really stupid.

Can I see your link?

 

[Orangecat]

Uh, no. The crime is obstruction of Justice.

Asking your lawyer for legal advice isn't obstructing justice.
Think better if you're capable, Moroner.

 

[Marener]

Asking your lawyer for legal advice isn't obstructing justice.
Think better if you're capable, Moroner.

Hiding documents from a grand jury subpoena is obstruction.

This conversation with his lawyers indicates he wanted to hide the documents from them.

Mens rea. Look it up.