Mexican-American War

[Bush92]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

 

[georgephillip]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

Did we gain the Civil War from our invasion of Mexico?

 

[Bush92]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

Did we gain the Civil War from our invasion of Mexico?

No. But we did get the territory that would become California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona. Civil War could have been avoided.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Unjust? Yeah. Inevitable. Yeah.

 

[georgephillip]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

Did we gain the Civil War from our invasion of Mexico?

No. But we did get the territory that would become California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona. Civil War could have been avoided.

"The Wilmot Proviso, one of the major events leading to the American Civil War, would have banned slavery in any territory to be acquired fromMexico in the Mexican War or in the future, including the area later known as the Mexican Cession, but which some proponents construed to also include the disputed lands in south Texas and New Mexico east of the Rio Grande."

King Cotton had the same stranglehold on US economics and politics in 1848 as oil has on global affairs today. Wilmot's proposal split the Democrats of his day into northern and southern wings and paved the way to Civil War.

Wilmot Proviso - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[NYcarbineer]

Manifest Destiny was an unjust land grab.

 

[JakeStarkey]

. . . but inevitable land grab.

And, yes, the CW was a direct result of the MW.

 

[SixFoot]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

Does anyone ever wonder if we had just completely annexed Mexico last time we held their capital, that we wouldn't have nearly the amount of problems we currently face on our southern border?

Perhaps they'd even be a first world country like us by now. Not to mention how much more natural resources like silver and oil we'd have.


Oh, to dream....

 

[JakeStarkey]

They would hold not only their old NW but our old SW by now.

 

[Bush92]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

Does anyone ever wonder if we had just completely annexed Mexico last time we held their capital, that we wouldn't have nearly the amount of problems we currently face on our southern border?

Perhaps they'd even be a first world country like us by now. Not to mention how much more natural resources like silver and oil we'd have.


Oh, to dream....

True, but we had not even developed the western territories yet and an occupation of Mexico would have been difficult. Pershing found operating in hostile territory in 1914 when we went after Villa.

 

[Bush92]

Manifest Destiny was an unjust land grab.

Disagree. Manifest Destiny was both "manifest" and "destiny." If Anglo-Americans had not pushed westward it would have been gobbled up by Spanish (who treated natives terrible) or French. Russians would have eventually gotten California.

 

[JWBooth]

"I was bitterly opposed to the measure, and to this day, regard the war, which resulted, as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation." Grant, referring to the Mexican War

 

[Bush92]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

Did we gain the Civil War from our invasion of Mexico?

No. But we did get the territory that would become California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona. Civil War could have been avoided.

"The Wilmot Proviso, one of the major events leading to the American Civil War, would have banned slavery in any territory to be acquired fromMexico in the Mexican War or in the future, including the area later known as the Mexican Cession, but which some proponents construed to also include the disputed lands in south Texas and New Mexico east of the Rio Grande."

King Cotton had the same stranglehold on US economics and politics in 1848 as oil has on global affairs today. Wilmot's proposal split the Democrats of his day into northern and southern wings and paved the way to Civil War.

Wilmot Proviso - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

But the West was not suitable to grow Cotton. Popular sovereignty is in the Constitution in the Preamble, Article VII, and in fact was also in the Declaration of Independence. Cass came up with nothing new. At some point we were going westward. At some point the territorial issue had to be resolved. Lincoln had made his mind up for war back in 1858 when he ran and lost for US Senate in Illinois.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become alike lawful in all the states, old as well as new, North as well as South.

 

[Bush92]

"I was bitterly opposed to the measure, and to this day, regard the war, which resulted, as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation." Grant, referring to the Mexican War

But necessary none the less.

 

[MaryL]

Mexicans are doing a land grab of their own, and America is lost if we don't fight them. Of course none of you have the historical reference or the commitment or a backbone to fight these blighters.

 

[Bush92]

Mexicans are doing a land grab of their own, and America is lost if we don't fight them. Of course none of you have the historical reference or the commitment or a backbone to fight these blighters.

That's the "Reconquista" promoted by radical leftist Marxist group, LaRaza. Holder does not find LaRaza to be a problem.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I see the far right reactionaries are rewriting the cultural Marxism on the wiki site for La Raza. Leftist, yep; socialist, mostly; Marxist, nope.

Cultural Marxism is nothing more than a term meaning "I wanna go back to the 1950s."

 

[georgephillip]

Was the Mexican-American War an "unjust land grab" or "good foreign policy?" I think it was inevitable with Manifest Destiny and westward expansion. So I have always liked President Polk and we gained so much from Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo 1848.

Did we gain the Civil War from our invasion of Mexico?

No. But we did get the territory that would become California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona. Civil War could have been avoided.

"The Wilmot Proviso, one of the major events leading to the American Civil War, would have banned slavery in any territory to be acquired fromMexico in the Mexican War or in the future, including the area later known as the Mexican Cession, but which some proponents construed to also include the disputed lands in south Texas and New Mexico east of the Rio Grande."

King Cotton had the same stranglehold on US economics and politics in 1848 as oil has on global affairs today. Wilmot's proposal split the Democrats of his day into northern and southern wings and paved the way to Civil War.

Wilmot Proviso - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

But the West was not suitable to grow Cotton. Popular sovereignty is in the Constitution in the Preamble, Article VII, and in fact was also in the Declaration of Independence. Cass came up with nothing new. At some point we were going westward. At some point the territorial issue had to be resolved. Lincoln had made his mind up for war back in 1858 when he ran and lost for US Senate in Illinois.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become alike lawful in all the states, old as well as new, North as well as South.

"Texas produces more cotton than any other state in the US. With eight production regions around Texas, it is the state's leading cash crop. Texas produces approximately 25% of the country's cotton crop on more than 6,000,000 acres, the equivalent of over 9,000 square miles (23,000 km2) of cotton fields.[27] Texas Cotton Producers includes 9 certified cotton grower organizations; it address national and statewide cotton grower issues, such as the national farm bill and environmental legislation."

Cotton production in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia