Maybe Democrats Should Surrender.

[Mac1958]

Why would he do that since this particular form of race baiting is the core Trump regieme talking point at the moment.

Never mind that it is false.

Trumpsters want to believe it, because it appeals to thier own bigotry, as Trump well knows.

Their top priority is "owning da libz". So any trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking he does makes them very happy. That's their "retribution", I guess.

Imagine that. An American President celebrated by his followers for constantly trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking other Americans. Multiple times, every single freaking day.

No other American President, no other American politician at any level, has ever behaved anything like this. Like spoiled, miserable, petulant child. Not even close. Ever.

But evidently, that's just who we are now.

 

[schmidlap]

I assume their internal polling tells them to keep hammering on immigration.

A consistent lie, even after its having been exposed, is deemed to be superior to a substitution for it, an implicit admission of its falsity

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[HikerGuy83]

Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year

Isn't if funny that we never hear about that 2,500 a year SAVINGS we were supposed to experience when OBAMACARE passed?

And now, we are openly discussing the fact that the ACA is only meaningful because of the wealth redistibution component known as "risk corridores" or SUBSIDIES.

You idiots are almost beyond comprehension.

 

[HikerGuy83]

But evidently, that's just who we are now.

Get used to it.

Now, have someone change your diaper since you appear to be wetting your pants again.

 

[schmidlap]

Their top priority is "owning da libz". So any trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking he does makes them very happy. That's their "retribution", I guess.

Imagine that. An American President celebrated by his followers for constantly trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking other Americans. Multiple times, every single freaking day.

No other American President, no other American politician at any level, has ever behaved anything like this. Like spoiled, miserable, petulant child. Not even close. Ever.

But evidently, that's just who we are now.

I like to think that most Americans have resuscitatable higher standards, as the blowhard's disapproval numbers continue to grow:

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"I AM A 'LIB'!"​

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[HikerGuy83]

I like to think that most Americans have resuscitatable higher standards, as the blowhard's disapproval numbers continue to grow:

 

[Mac1958]

I like to think that most Americans have resuscitatable higher standards, as the blowhard's disapproval numbers continue to grow:

President Donald Trump Job Approval Ratings and Polls | RealClearPolling

Track President Trump's job approval with RealClearPolling. Gain valuable insights and stay informed on the latest ratings and political developments for a comprehensive view of the political landscape.

www.realclearpolling.com

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President Trump Approval - Economy | RealClearPolling

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www.realclearpolling.com

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President Donald Trump Job Approval Ratings and Polls | RealClearPolling

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President Trump Job Approval - Inflation | RealClearPolling

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www.realclearpolling.com

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President Trump Approval on Handling of Russia/Ukraine | RealClearPolling

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www.realclearpolling.com

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President Trump Approval on Handling of Israeli-Palestinian Conflict | RealClearPolling

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President Trump Job Approval - Immigration | RealClearPolling

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While I remain hopeful that we're better than this, I'll need a couple of election cycles to believe it.

And perhaps even more concerning is the condition of our election system, from voting day to state certifications.

 

[leftwinger]

Do you really want some truth? I know that the democrat base wants their leaders to pushback and fight against Trump. However, your democrat leaders pick the DUMBEST arguments to fight Trump on. This shutdown is just another example of this. These things are what Schumer and the democrats in the Senate are fighting for:

Returning federal funding for NPR and PBS. Who out here are clamoring for NPR and PBS to keep getting federal funding? You want to keep running? Compete like all the other TV channels and radio stations.

Premium tax credits for the ACA that was created under the American Rescue Plan Act, a COVID pandemic policy that we no longer need because we're no longer in a pandemic. Perhaps you shouldn't have tied what you hoped was permanent tax credits to a temporary event.

Take back what was passed with Medicare in the BBB. Why would Republicans pass something just to renege on it months later?

Stop Trump from pulling back funding approved by Congress if he sees that it doesn't serve in the country's best interest. This is probably the best argument the democrats have. Trump should ask for line-item veto power as a compromise.

I think that Schumer has to fight this one because his base felt like he rolled over too easy the last time. Also, there are rumblings that AOC will challenge Schumer for his Senate seat.

Their top priority is "owning da libz". So any trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking he does makes them very happy. That's their "retribution", I guess.

Imagine that. An American President celebrated by his followers for constantly trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking other Americans. Multiple times, every single freaking day.

No other American President, no other American politician at any level, has ever behaved anything like this. Like spoiled, miserable, petulant child. Not even close. Ever.

But evidently, that's just who we are now.

Is this all you have Cheese headed loon? Are you a lady baby or what? Your poor hurt feelings are irrelevant to $38T stolen wasted zuSAID etc. Markets going up. Up your rear you queer.

 

[schmidlap]

Most Americans blame Trump and Republicans for Government shutdown, not Democrats​

Trump turns shutdown into weapon against blue America​

The county desperately needs a president for ALL the People.​

 

[Mac-7]

Lie.

There is so much fraud in the system that qualified Americans are getting less than they could

 

[HikerGuy83]

The county desperately needs a president for ALL the People.

Too bad you could not supply a candidate who came even remotely close.

Sucks to be you.

I am happy with the government being shutdown.

 

[schmidlap]

Too bad you could not supply a candidate who came even remotely close.

Sucks to be you.

I am happy with the government being shutdown.

The sad truth is that neither party managed to offer a viable candidate.

If you like to fantasize that it sucks to be among the majority of Americans who disapprove of the blowhard, I don't see why you can't.

More Americans blame Trump, GOP for shutdown than Democrats​

The sexual abuser's reliance on the poor has collapsed.

Trump is facing growing signs of political trouble, as his approval rating has dropped sharply among low-income Americans.
In August, Trump’s approval within this cohort stood at 55 percent approve / 41 percent disapprove, but by September, it had collapsed to 31 percent approve / 61 percent disapprove
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[HikerGuy83]

The sad truth is that neither party managed to offer a viable candidate.

If you like to fantasize that it sucks to be among the majority of Americans who disapprove of the blowhard, I don't see why you can't.

More Americans blame Trump, GOP for shutdown than Democrats​

The sexual abuser's reliance on the poor has collapsed.

Trump is facing growing signs of political trouble, as his approval rating has dropped sharply among low-income Americans.
In August, Trump’s approval within this cohort stood at 55 percent approve / 41 percent disapprove, but by September, it had collapsed to 31 percent approve / 61 percent disapprove
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And NOBODY CARES.

In 2021, Trump was at 34% and guess what happened......

This means nothing.

Other than you have some company in your "Whiny Little *****" club.

 

[justoffal]

Not everyone can handle the truth, but everyone should be given the opportunity.

Despite Trump's lies, the Democratic position does not include a demand for healthcare for immigrants without legal status.

... It does include a demand for Medicaid funding that was severely cut in Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” passed earlier this year, as well as continuing subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.

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Democratic leadership is seeking Republican compromise on healthcare policy in their spending bill, asking for increased spending to continue Obamacare subsidies and to reverse the deep Medicaid cuts implemented in the domestic tax cut bill.​

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Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for Obamacare benefits and Medicaid...​

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Allowing ACA subsidies to expire at the end of the year could have immense ramifications, kicking millions of people off of their healthcare, skyrocketing out-of-pocket insurance premiums, and premiums across the health insurance market are to increase drastically.​

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...nment-shut-down/ar-AA1NGPq5?ocid=BingNewsVerp​

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The Democratic position has enjoyed popular support in the face of Trump's slashing coverage:

Obamacare And Medicaid Popularity Hit All-Time High As GOP Preps Cuts
June 17, 2025​

The enhanced premium tax credits for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) are set to expire at the end of 2025. This expiration could lead to significant increases in ACA insurance premiums, with estimates suggesting a rise of up to 75% in 2026. The Congressional Budget Office has projected that about 22 million people with a health plan via the ACA marketplace would face a premium shock if these tax credits are not extended. ​

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https://www.usmessageboard.com/javascript:void(0)

It may well be in the electoral interests of Democrats to concede, and allow millions of Americans to be deprived of healthcare coverage by Trump and his Congressional toadies.

Medicare funding was not cut ..
Medicare FRAUD was cut.

Jo

 

[schmidlap]

Medicare funding was not cut ..
Medicare FRAUD was cut.

Jo

No mention was made of Medicare.

The Republican bill cuts nearly a trillion dollars in Medicaid funding.

1. Low-Income Individuals: The cuts are likely to disproportionately affect low-income individuals who rely on Medicaid for essential health services. Estimates suggest that up to 15 million Americans could lose coverage due to these changes.
   https://www.investopedia.com/medicaid-cuts-will-hurt-some-states-more-than-others-11813383
2. Elderly Population: Older adults, who often have higher healthcare needs, may face increased barriers to accessing care as funding for Medicaid is reduced. This could lead to a decline in services available to them.
   https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...rump-one-big-beautiful-bill-medicare-medicaid
3. Immigrants: Immigrants living in the country without legal status are also at risk, as proposed legislation includes provisions that would reduce federal funding for states that allow these individuals to enroll in Medicaid.

 

[justoffal]

No mention was made of Medicare.

The Republican bill cuts nearly a trillion dollars in Medicaid funding.

1. Low-Income Individuals: The cuts are likely to disproportionately affect low-income individuals who rely on Medicaid for essential health services. Estimates suggest that up to 15 million Americans could lose coverage due to these changes.
   Medicaid Cuts Will Hurt Some States More Than Others—See How Yours Compares
2. Elderly Population: Older adults, who often have higher healthcare needs, may face increased barriers to accessing care as funding for Medicaid is reduced. This could lead to a decline in services available to them.
   'One Big Beautiful Bill': How cuts will affect healthcare in 5 areas
3. Immigrants: Immigrants living in the country without legal status are also at risk, as proposed legislation includes provisions that would reduce federal funding for states that allow these individuals to enroll in Medicaid.

Ahhhh....
Medicaid....
The Champagne of fraudulent vintages..
For every person that legitimately needs help there are half a dozen fraudster that rip off the system.

The community action councils are at the center of this scandal.

 

[j-mac]

Their top priority is "owning da libz". So any trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking he does makes them very happy. That's their "retribution", I guess.

Imagine that. An American President celebrated by his followers for constantly trolling, insulting, threatening and mocking other Americans. Multiple times, every single freaking day.

No other American President, no other American politician at any level, has ever behaved anything like this. Like spoiled, miserable, petulant child. Not even close. Ever.

But evidently, that's just who we are now.

You must have been living under a rock for the past 20 years.

 

[schmidlap]

Ahhhh....
Medicaid....
The Champagne of fraudulent vintages..
For every person that legitimately needs help there are half a dozen fraudster that rip off the system.

The community action councils are at the center of this scandal.

Your undocumented cynicism is taken for what it's worth.

 

[justoffal]

Your undocumented cynicism is taken for what it's worth.

I have all the documentation I need ....
Having said that ....I don't deny that there will be some pain .....

Got a better plan?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Ocare always was a joke. 100 bucks a month but a 50k deductible, lol. Most insurance sucks anyway.