Massive Failure in Iran

March 6:

President Trump declared on Friday that he would settle for nothing short of “unconditional surrender” by Iran, the latest and broadest expansion of his goals for the conflict, and one that could portend a much longer war if he persists in that aim.

May 1 (less than 60 days later):

May 1: Mr. Trump rejected Iran’s latest proposal to end the war. “They want to make a deal, but I’m not satisfied with it,” he told reporters at the White House. On the same day, the president sent letters to Congress saying that hostilities with Iran “have terminated.”

We went from demanding an unconditional surrender of Iran to essentially surrendering ourselves.


Does anyone have any idea what we accomplished outside of Americans paying more for gas?
Unconditional surrender is what we need. Let the bombing resume.
 
Unconditional surrender is what we need. Let the bombing resume.
Mass murder and war crimes is not the best way to win this.

Tertia Optio was working but Trump needed another Epstein Distraction so he attacked Iran contrary to the advice of our intelligence and military leaders.
 
Yeah because you support murdering women and children.

The ugly dumb American imperialist rears his ugly head.
It all boils down to either they get us or we get them. It's not our fault they hide like cissies in schools and power plants, etc. Open up your eyes to the fact that they claim their nuclear programs are for peaceful purposes only and yet they won't even discuss these peaceful purposes in negotiations.
 
Mass murder and war crimes is not the best way to win this.

Tertia Optio was working but Trump needed another Epstein Distraction so he attacked Iran contrary to the advice of our intelligence and military leaders.
You guys don't even want to fight at all. You're perfectly fine with Iran getting nuclear bombs and the ballistic missiles to carry them to the US.
 
Mass murder and war crimes is not the best way to win this.
Tertia Optio was working but Trump needed another Epstein Distraction so he attacked Iran contrary to the advice of our intelligence and military leaders.
Link that our intel & military were against it? Epstein is still dead.
 
It all boils down to either they get us or we get them. It's not our fault they hide like cissies in schools and power plants, etc. Open up your eyes to the fact that they claim their nuclear programs are for peaceful purposes only and yet they won't even discuss these peaceful purposes in negotiations.
Translation: I don't care if innocent Iranian women and children are killed.

Got it.
You guys don't even want to fight at all. You're perfectly fine with Iran getting nuclear bombs and the ballistic missiles to carry them to the US.
Who are you guys? If you mean Libertarian, gun-owning retired military veterans like myself, you're wrong...again. A pattern I'm noticing about you.

Again, Tertia Optio was working. Why else would Iran murder 30,000 of their own citizens?
Intelligent, education and rational people understand that it's better to let a nation implode (with our assistance) than a conventional war in the heart of ME oil country. Moronic sheeple only do what they are told.

Example:
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Translation: I don't care if innocent Iranian women and children are killed.

Got it.

Who are you guys? If you mean Libertarian, gun-owning retired military veterans like myself, you're wrong...again. A pattern I'm noticing about you.

Again, Tertia Optio was working. Why else would Iran murder 30,000 of their own citizens?
Intelligent, education and rational people understand that it's better to let a nation implode (with our assistance) than a conventional war in the heart of ME oil country. Moronic sheeple only do what they are told.

Example:
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You don't seem to give a shit about all the women and children who would die when Iran launches a nuke at us. We at least try to not harm civilians if we can. Unfortunately in war, that isn't always possible. But, on the other side, they are perferctly fine with attacking civilians, including executing their very own peaceful protesters by the tens of thousands. Why don't you care about that?
 
You don't seem to give a shit about all the women and children who would die when Iran launches a nuke at us. We at least try to not harm civilians if we can. Unfortunately in war, that isn't always possible. But, on the other side, they are perferctly fine with attacking civilians, including executing their very own peaceful protesters by the tens of thousands. Why don't you care about that?
Your fantasies about nuclear Armageddon prove you didn't grow up in the Duck'n'Cover age.

Your lies about me are evidence you are low IQ and/or dishonest. The fact you don't understand how Tertia Optio works adds weight to this observation.
 
It all boils down to either they get us or we get them. It's not our fault they hide like cissies in schools and power plants, etc. Open up your eyes to the fact that they claim their nuclear programs are for peaceful purposes only and yet they won't even discuss these peaceful purposes in negotiations.
No it doesn’t. Iran was no threat.

Stop believing Zionist propaganda.
 
No it doesn’t. Iran was no threat.

Stop believing Zionist propaganda.
Iran says their nuclear program is peaceful and yet Iran refuses to even talk about their "peaceful" nuclear program in negotiations. They would rather be bombed than talk about their peaceful nuclear program. That's not Zionist propaganda. That's from Iran themselves.
 
No it doesn’t. Iran was no threat.

Stop believing Zionist propaganda.
Disagreed. Iran is most certainly a threat, but there are different ways of handling threats.

IMO, the main difference of opinion is not whether or not Iran is a threat, but how best to handle that threat.

As noted several times before, I favor collapsing them from the inside by fomenting dissent. It divides the Iranians, it avoids the complications of the Strait of Hormuz plus the damage done to Arab oil facilities and it's cheaper. The bad news is that it takes longer, but so what? It was working as Iran's mass murder of their own citizens proves.

FWIW, I don't buy the Zionist propaganda bullshit. More likely Bibi simply bribed Trump with lucrative deals on Gaza resorts and Saudi Arabia put millions, if not a billion, into Trump cybercoins.
 
Disagreed. Iran is most certainly a threat, but there are different ways of handling threats.

IMO, the main difference of opinion is not whether or not Iran is a threat, but how best to handle that threat.

As noted several times before, I favor collapsing them from the inside by fomenting dissent. It divides the Iranians, it avoids the complications of the Strait of Hormuz plus the damage done to Arab oil facilities and it's cheaper. The bad news is that it takes longer, but so what? It was working as Iran's mass murder of their own citizens proves.

FWIW, I don't buy the Zionist propaganda bullshit. More likely Bibi simply bribed Trump with lucrative deals on Gaza resorts and Saudi Arabia put millions, if not a billion, into Trump cybercoins.
No. None of our business meddling in Iran’s politics. Doing so is imperialistic.

They were no threat to the US, but they did threaten the Zio Nazi regime.

Americans have been told for many decades Iran is the world’s leading terrorist regime. Obviously this is bs. Just like Bibi lying for decades that they’d have nukes next week.
 
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