Map of Ottoman Empire @ 1900's clearly shows, land NOT OWNED BY ARABS:

[MartyNYC]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Land ownership under Ottoman rule evolved over time and place. In general there were five recognized legal forms of land ownership after 1858 reforms. In the Palestine area village lands and family/clan land were distinct before the British arrived. The main changes occurred not so much when the British arrived, but when large numbers of Jews arrived buying up land. The “Jewish Agency” oversaw the establishment of about 1,000 towns and villages. The new Jewish state later seized much valuable land, legally “re-categorized” traditional village land, and of course drove many Arabs out in 1948, never allowing them to return. Never allowing old land claims to be “registered” and many other legal tricks were used to extend Jewish ownership and restrict Arab rights.

On Ottoman land policies: Ottoman Land Code of 1858 - Wikipedia

 

[MartyNYC]

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No autonomous or distinct palestine

And, since we both can read Arabic, you can confirm that the title of the map says in Arabic "Lebanon Syria". No mention of Palestine.

Funny how even the Arabs didn't look at it as Palestine, yet we keep hearing about these Palestinians with "ancient roots" who's mythical land got stolen.

"Palestine" is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.

Nonsense.
Obviously the Ottoman empire would have an interest in suppressing any sort of local unity.

The name Palestine is a European name that was used by the Euopeans only. The Ottoman's called it "southern Syria". The name Palestinian was used only in reference to the Jews of the region only. Look it up.

Roudy; here is an informative breakdown of facts and figures concerning the topic:

Interesting how a claim to the land was never made so long as Jordan held control of it, as soon as Israel expelled the Jordanians who had illegally occupied the land, the Arabs living in the land then proceeded to quickly change their charter to now make claims to this land. The question has to be, how can a historic claim change like this? Or could this be a lie?

“There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity… yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel.” Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council

Can a people that never held the sovereignty of land have the sovereignty taken from them? Remember, in any court of law, if you claim something was stole you have show ownership before you can accuse. This then begs the question, “How can someone claim theft of land they never held any sovereignty over?”

Did Israel Steal The Ancestral Home of the Palestinians? Part 3

That is a stupid lie.
The British Mandate for Palestine was etablished in 1920 at the Treaty of Sevres, in order to reward the Palestinians for their help in WWI.
The Palestinians have always existed, even thought they actually are a region of smaller tribes like the Canaanites, Chaldeans, Urites, Amorites, Philistines, Phoenicians, Nabatians, etc.
There obvious are differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, but they deliberately joined into the federation of Palestine because of their similar past heritage and future goals.

Jordan NEVER laid any claim to any part of Palestine.
They simply helped administer and defend it after Israel tried to illegal invade it.
The current occupation of Jerusalem by Israel is also still totally illegal.

Palestinians always has the legal right to sovereignty due to the fact of the rights of the indigenous.
The fact they were illegally prevented sovereignty by the invading Ottoman Empire means nothing.
The British owed them sovereignty and promised it in return for help in WWI.

And Jews have no right to any sovereignty in Israel because they are not native, neither nor now 3000 years ago when they first tried to take over.

British Mandate was awarded to Britain by the League of Nations at the San Remo Convention in 1920. Britain submitted their terms for the Mandate, nicknamed “palestine,” in 1922, which went into effect in 1923.

 

[MartyNYC]

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No autonomous or distinct palestine

And, since we both can read Arabic, you can confirm that the title of the map says in Arabic "Lebanon Syria". No mention of Palestine.

Funny how even the Arabs didn't look at it as Palestine, yet we keep hearing about these Palestinians with "ancient roots" who's mythical land got stolen.

"Palestine" is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.

Nonsense.
Obviously the Ottoman empire would have an interest in suppressing any sort of local unity.

The name Palestine is a European name that was used by the Euopeans only. The Ottoman's called it "southern Syria". The name Palestinian was used only in reference to the Jews of the region only. Look it up.

That is a stupid lie.
The word Palestine refers to the coast of the Land of Canaan way back in ancient Greek and Egyptian references.
Clearly it is where the Philistines got their name, way before the Hebrew invasion around 1000 BC.
There were no Jews in Palestine before this, and the Jews almost never lived there, being kicked out by the Assyrian, Babylonians, Romans, and Crusaders.
Palestinian NEVER referred to Jews.

You have a perfect record: 100% wrong! LOL

Palestine is a modern English word. There is no reference to any place “palestine” in Egyptian sources, and ancient Greeks called the country Judea, signifying land of the Jews. Romans did so, as well. Persians called the country Yehud, Aramaic for Judah.

 

[Indeependent]

Not only was there no such country as "Palestine", in 1946, there had never been a country called Palestine. Before the British conquered Jerusalem, Palestine was a sub-province of the Ottoman Empire. (And after the British left, of course, Jordan and Egypt moved in to occupy Gaza and the West Bank.)

There wasn‘t a political entity “palestine“ in the Ottoman Empire. The area was divided and subdivided over the years into different districts, such as Jerusalem, Nablus, Gaza, and Safed.

That is true, but there was a region known as Palestine from over 7000 years ago, and clearly WWI established Palestine as in independent country.

Too bad none of the Arab nations agree with you.

There is no Arab nation that disagrees the British Mandate for Palestine was not created legally at the Treaty of Sevres in 1920. All the local Arab nations were at the conference and agreed to the treaty.

Yawn...
1920...what a schmuck you are.

 

[Rigby5]

Not only was there no such country as "Palestine", in 1946, there had never been a country called Palestine. Before the British conquered Jerusalem, Palestine was a sub-province of the Ottoman Empire. (And after the British left, of course, Jordan and Egypt moved in to occupy Gaza and the West Bank.)

Totally wrong.
First of all there was ALWAYS a region known as Palestine, going back to around 5000 BC.
Second is that the British did not invade Palestine, but liberated it with the help of a local rebellion against the Ottoman Empire.
Third is that when the Palestinians helped the British they did so with the assurances of independence and sovereignty, which was formalized into law by the Treaty of Sevres in 1920.
So that is when the independent country of Palestine was legally recognized and can not be altered by invasion by Zionists.
Jordan and Egypt never took over but only acted as protectors and administrators.

The British were always Arabists.

Peter O‘Toole can attest to that.

You mean T.E. Lawrence I assume?

And there simply were almost no Jews in Palestine in 1916.

{...

	Census Group	Population​	Percentage​
	Muslim	403,795​	85.5​
	Christian	43,659​	9.2​
	Jewish	15,001​	3.2​

...}

Demographics of Historic Palestine prior to 1948

www.cjpme.org

​

I‘ve heard it all before.

So then you must know that Israel has no justification to exist, and was forcibly made by the US, against the rights of the inhabitants of the Mideast?

 

[Mindful]

Not only was there no such country as "Palestine", in 1946, there had never been a country called Palestine. Before the British conquered Jerusalem, Palestine was a sub-province of the Ottoman Empire. (And after the British left, of course, Jordan and Egypt moved in to occupy Gaza and the West Bank.)

There wasn‘t a political entity “palestine“ in the Ottoman Empire. The area was divided and subdivided over the years into different districts, such as Jerusalem, Nablus, Gaza, and Safed.

That is true, but there was a region known as Palestine from over 7000 years ago, and clearly WWI established Palestine as in independent country.

Too bad none of the Arab nations agree with you.

There is no Arab nation that disagrees the British Mandate for Palestine was not created legally at the Treaty of Sevres in 1920. All the local Arab nations were at the conference and agreed to the treaty.

Yawn...
1920...what a schmuck you are.

Tedious, isn’t it?

 

[Rigby5]

Not only was there no such country as "Palestine", in 1946, there had never been a country called Palestine. Before the British conquered Jerusalem, Palestine was a sub-province of the Ottoman Empire. (And after the British left, of course, Jordan and Egypt moved in to occupy Gaza and the West Bank.)

Totally wrong.
First of all there was ALWAYS a region known as Palestine, going back to around 5000 BC.
Second is that the British did not invade Palestine, but liberated it with the help of a local rebellion against the Ottoman Empire.
Third is that when the Palestinians helped the British they did so with the assurances of independence and sovereignty, which was formalized into law by the Treaty of Sevres in 1920.
So that is when the independent country of Palestine was legally recognized and can not be altered by invasion by Zionists.
Jordan and Egypt never took over but only acted as protectors and administrators.

The British were always Arabists.

Peter O‘Toole can attest to that.

You mean T.E. Lawrence I assume?

And there simply were almost no Jews in Palestine in 1916.

{...

	Census Group	Population​	Percentage​
	Muslim	403,795​	85.5​
	Christian	43,659​	9.2​
	Jewish	15,001​	3.2​

...}

Demographics of Historic Palestine prior to 1948

www.cjpme.org

There was no palestine in 1916. Only historically correct name is Israel.

Britain named the British Mandate “palestine” which went into effect in 1923.

​

That is a total lie.
There was no Israel at all in 1916, Palestine was always the accepted name for the region, and the Treaty of San Remo and the Treaty of Sevres established Palestine as the only legal entity in the region.
There is no legal Israel, and likely never was one.
The ancient Israel of biblical times was a short lived invasion that was quickly defeated and disappeared.
It left no trace.

 

[Mindful]

Not only was there no such country as "Palestine", in 1946, there had never been a country called Palestine. Before the British conquered Jerusalem, Palestine was a sub-province of the Ottoman Empire. (And after the British left, of course, Jordan and Egypt moved in to occupy Gaza and the West Bank.)

Totally wrong.
First of all there was ALWAYS a region known as Palestine, going back to around 5000 BC.
Second is that the British did not invade Palestine, but liberated it with the help of a local rebellion against the Ottoman Empire.
Third is that when the Palestinians helped the British they did so with the assurances of independence and sovereignty, which was formalized into law by the Treaty of Sevres in 1920.
So that is when the independent country of Palestine was legally recognized and can not be altered by invasion by Zionists.
Jordan and Egypt never took over but only acted as protectors and administrators.

The British were always Arabists.

Peter O‘Toole can attest to that.

You mean T.E. Lawrence I assume?

And there simply were almost no Jews in Palestine in 1916.

{...

	Census Group	Population​	Percentage​
	Muslim	403,795​	85.5​
	Christian	43,659​	9.2​
	Jewish	15,001​	3.2​

...}

Demographics of Historic Palestine prior to 1948

www.cjpme.org

There was no palestine in 1916. Only historically correct name is Israel.

Britain named the British Mandate “palestine” which went into effect in 1923.

​

That is a total lie.
There was no Israel at all in 1916, Palestine was always the accepted name for the region, and the Treaty of San Remo and the Treaty of Sevres established Palestine as the only legal entity in the region.
There is no legal Israel, and likely never was one.
The ancient Israel of biblical times was a short lived invasion that was quickly defeated and disappeared.
It left no trace.

We’ve heard it all before.

 

[Rigby5]

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No autonomous or distinct palestine

And, since we both can read Arabic, you can confirm that the title of the map says in Arabic "Lebanon Syria". No mention of Palestine.

Funny how even the Arabs didn't look at it as Palestine, yet we keep hearing about these Palestinians with "ancient roots" who's mythical land got stolen.

"Palestine" is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.

Nonsense.
Obviously the Ottoman empire would have an interest in suppressing any sort of local unity.

The name Palestine is a European name that was used by the Euopeans only. The Ottoman's called it "southern Syria". The name Palestinian was used only in reference to the Jews of the region only. Look it up.

That is a stupid lie.
The word Palestine refers to the coast of the Land of Canaan way back in ancient Greek and Egyptian references.
Clearly it is where the Philistines got their name, way before the Hebrew invasion around 1000 BC.
There were no Jews in Palestine before this, and the Jews almost never lived there, being kicked out by the Assyrian, Babylonians, Romans, and Crusaders.
Palestinian NEVER referred to Jews.

You have a perfect record: 100% wrong! LOL

Palestine is a modern English word. There is no reference to any place “palestine” in Egyptian sources, and ancient Greeks called the country Judea, signifying land of the Jews. Romans did so, as well. Persians called the country Yehud, Aramaic for Judah.

Liar.
Everyone has always acknowledged and recorded that the word Palestine is an ancient reference often used by everyone.

Timeline of the name Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

{...
This article presents a list of notable historical references to the name Palestine as a place name in the Middle East throughout the history of the region, including its cognates such as "Filastin" and "Palaestina."

The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from circa 1150 BC during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,[2][3] and the last known is 300 years later on Padiiset's Statue. The Assyrians called the same region "Palashtu/Palastu" or "Pilistu," beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c. 800 BC through to an Esarhaddon treaty more than a century later.[4][5] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.[6]

The first appearance of the term "Palestine" was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories.[7][8][9] Herodotus applied the term to both the coastal and the inland regions such as the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[10][11][12][13] Later Greek writers such as Aristotle, Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[14] The word is not found on any Hellenistic coin or inscription, and is first known in official use in the early second century AD.[15] It has been contended that in the first century authors still associated the term with the southern coastal region.[16][17]
...}

The proper word for Jews is Hebrew, as they were not called Jews until after invading and living in the long pre-existing Canaanite city Jerusalem.
Not only did no one consider that area Jewish, but it is still usually called the Land of Canaan, the Levant, or Palestine. Judea is just a small city, just as Samaria and Israel were.
The Romans did prop up a Jewish fantasy for a while, but not very long, and everyone knows it was fake.
Even Herod was actually a Roman convert, and not really Jewish.

 

[Rigby5]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

 

[MartyNYC]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

 

[Rigby5]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

View attachment 339616

Yes, the map is labeled "Palestine". but you have cut off the label at the top.
Here is what a typical Ottoman Empire map of Palestine looks like.
Note the label "Palestine" at the top.

 

[MartyNYC]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

View attachment 339616

Yes, the map is labeled "Palestine". but you have cut off the label at the top.
Here is what a typical Ottoman Empire map of Palestine looks like.
Note the label "Palestine" at the top.

You’re not very good at this: Nowhere in the map is there an administrative unit named “palestine.” No such place existed.

 

[MartyNYC]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

View attachment 339616

Yes, the map is labeled "Palestine". but you have cut off the label at the top.
Here is what a typical Ottoman Empire map of Palestine looks like.
Note the label "Palestine" at the top.

Um, Syria also did not exist in 1915–Syria was created by France after World War 1, which ended in 1918. D’oh!

 

[Indeependent]

Not only was there no such country as "Palestine", in 1946, there had never been a country called Palestine. Before the British conquered Jerusalem, Palestine was a sub-province of the Ottoman Empire. (And after the British left, of course, Jordan and Egypt moved in to occupy Gaza and the West Bank.)

Totally wrong.
First of all there was ALWAYS a region known as Palestine, going back to around 5000 BC.
Second is that the British did not invade Palestine, but liberated it with the help of a local rebellion against the Ottoman Empire.
Third is that when the Palestinians helped the British they did so with the assurances of independence and sovereignty, which was formalized into law by the Treaty of Sevres in 1920.
So that is when the independent country of Palestine was legally recognized and can not be altered by invasion by Zionists.
Jordan and Egypt never took over but only acted as protectors and administrators.

The British were always Arabists.

Peter O‘Toole can attest to that.

You mean T.E. Lawrence I assume?

And there simply were almost no Jews in Palestine in 1916.

{...

	Census Group	Population​	Percentage​
	Muslim	403,795​	85.5​
	Christian	43,659​	9.2​
	Jewish	15,001​	3.2​

...}

Demographics of Historic Palestine prior to 1948

www.cjpme.org

​

I‘ve heard it all before.

So then you must know that Israel has no justification to exist, and was forcibly made by the US, against the rights of the inhabitants of the Mideast?

I suggest you study inter-Arab wars if the use of force upsets you.

 

[Rigby5]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

View attachment 339616

Yes, the map is labeled "Palestine". but you have cut off the label at the top.
Here is what a typical Ottoman Empire map of Palestine looks like.
Note the label "Palestine" at the top.

You’re not very good at this: Nowhere in the map is there an administrative unit named “palestine.” No such place existed.

That is the whole point.
It is the REGION that was always called Palestine, and it was not until 1920 that it was made into an independent country, as a federation of the little tribal areas inside of it.
That is the way countries are always formed.
German was 16 separate states until confederation.
{... Prussia and the other states in Northern and Central Germany united as a federal state, the North German Federation, on July 1, 1867 ...}
There was no Germany before that, just the name of the region.

 

[Rigby5]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

View attachment 339616

Yes, the map is labeled "Palestine". but you have cut off the label at the top.
Here is what a typical Ottoman Empire map of Palestine looks like.
Note the label "Palestine" at the top.

Um, Syria also did not exist in 1915–Syria was created by France after World War 1, which ended in 1918. D’oh!

That is silly because Syria is ancient.
{...
The modern name of Syria is claimed by some scholars to have derived from Herodotus’ habit of referring to the whole of Mesopotamia as 'Assyria' and, after the Assyrian Empire fell in 612 BCE, the western part continued to be called 'Assyria' until after the Seleucid Empire when it became known as 'Syria'. This theory has been contested by the claim that the name comes from Hebrew, and the people of the land were referred to as 'Siryons' by the Hebrews because of their soldiers' metal armor ('siryon' meaning armor, specifically chain mail, in Hebrew). There is also the theory that 'Syria' derives from the Siddonian name for Mount Hermon - 'Siryon' – which separated the regions of northern Eber Nari and southern Phoenicia (modern Lebanon, which Sidon was a part of), and it has also been suggested that the name comes from the Sumerian, 'Saria' which was their name for Mount Hermon. As the designations 'Siryon' and 'Saria' would not have been known to Herodotus, and as his Histories had such an enormous impact on later writers in antiquity, it is most likely that the modern name 'Syria' derives from 'Assyria' (which comes from the Akkadian 'Ashur' and designated the Assyrian’s chief deity) and not from the Hebrew, Siddonian, or Sumerian words.
...}

Just look at the title on the map.
It obviously is real, untouched up, and validates the common names used for the regions.
The fact the Ottoman empire held both regions does not make these regions irrelevant.

 

[Indeependent]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

View attachment 339616

Yes, the map is labeled "Palestine". but you have cut off the label at the top.
Here is what a typical Ottoman Empire map of Palestine looks like.
Note the label "Palestine" at the top.

You’re not very good at this: Nowhere in the map is there an administrative unit named “palestine.” No such place existed.

That is the whole point.
It is the REGION that was always called Palestine, and it was not until 1920 that it was made into an independent country, as a federation of the little tribal areas inside of it.
That is the way countries are always formed.
German was 16 separate states until confederation.
{... Prussia and the other states in Northern and Central Germany united as a federal state, the North German Federation, on July 1, 1867 ...}
There was no Germany before that, just the name of the region.

The Romans called Israel “Palestine” after they conquered it.
If you don’t know this from a simple Google search then you are an idiot.

 

[MartyNYC]

Can one of you bullshit propagandists show us a country or nation of "Arab Palestine" that existed in the last 700 years?

Who were its rulers, it's capital, currency, distinct language, etc. ?

Palestine is an invention circa 1967 after the Arabs got their asses kicked and decided to hijack an identity they never had.

Arab commentator acknowledges: “When the State of Israel was established in 1948, there was no state called ‘palestine’”

Kuwaiti Writer Abdullah Al-Hadlaq: Israel Is a Legitimate State, Not an Occupier; There Was No Palestine; I Support Israel-Gulf-U.S. Alliance to Annihilate Hizbullah

False.
Palestine was officially created and recognized by the Treaties of San Remo and Sevres, in 1920.
That can never change and is recorded history.
What would a Kuwaiti know about Palestine, nor would anyone believe a Kuwaite writer when the emir had all the good journalist killed.

Do you see “palestine” on this map of the Ottoman Empire, year 1900?

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Yes, the map is labeled "Palestine". but you have cut off the label at the top.
Here is what a typical Ottoman Empire map of Palestine looks like.
Note the label "Palestine" at the top.

You’re not very good at this: Nowhere in the map is there an administrative unit named “palestine.” No such place existed.

That is the whole point.
It is the REGION that was always called Palestine, and it was not until 1920 that it was made into an independent country, as a federation of the little tribal areas inside of it.
That is the way countries are always formed.
German was 16 separate states until confederation.
{... Prussia and the other states in Northern and Central Germany united as a federal state, the North German Federation, on July 1, 1867 ...}
There was no Germany before that, just the name of the region.

Palestine is a European name, like Terra Sancta. It wasn‘t a Middle Eastern name. It’s an English word, anglicized from the Roman name “palaestina” imposed on Jews, referring to Jews’ Philistine foes from the Greek world.

Neither the map I posted nor the map you posted has a political entity named “palestine.” It didn’t exist in the Middle East until Britain nicknamed the Mandate “palestine“ which ceased to exist with Israeli statehood.

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