Many in Russia's elite no longer believe Putin can win the Ukraine war, report says: 'The best they hope for is that Russia will lose without humiliat

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Many in Russia's elite no longer believe Putin can win the Ukraine war, report says: 'The best they hope for is that Russia will lose without humiliation'​

Story by [email protected] (Tom Porter) • 3h ago

Russian President Vladimir Putin chairs a meeting with members of the Russian government via teleconference in Moscow on March 10, 2022. MIKHAIL KLIMENTYEV/SPUTNIK/AFP via Getty Images© MIKHAIL KLIMENTYEV/SPUTNIK/AFP via Getty Images

• Members of the Russian elite are turning against the Ukraine war, Bloomberg reported.
• They best they can hope for is losing without humiliation, the report said.
• However Putin shows no sign of wanting to end the conflict, it said.

Many members of Russia's elite are growing doubtful about the ability of their president, Vladimir Putin, to win the war in Ukraine, Bloomberg reported.
The best they can hope for is a "frozen" conflict or a loss in which Russia isn't humilated, the report said.
Despite this deepening gloom, Putin shows no sign of wishing to end the war, according to Bloomberg.
The outlet cited seven people with knowledge of the situation who asked not to be identified given the seriousness of the issues.
It said that many in the upper echelons of Russian politics and business are tired of the war and want it to end.

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A few days ago, Prigozhin predicted ultranationalists would rise up against Putin because of his poor management of the war within a few months, and now this seems to confirm it. Will Putin mysteriously tumble out of a window to his death or "accidentally" take too much blood thinner and stroke out?

 

[Donald H]

This is simply not true, or at least isn't true for any appreciable number of Russians.

In fact, Putin has been unleashed by the Russian people who trust and accept his steady hand on the war against America.

 

[toomuchtime_]

This is simply not true, or at least isn't true for any appreciable number of Russians.

In fact, Putin has been unleashed by the Russian people who trust and accept his steady hand on the war against America.

Perhaps so, but they seem to be losing confidence in his handling of Russia's war against Ukraine.

 

[odanny]

This is simply not true, or at least isn't true for any appreciable number of Russians.

In fact, Putin has been unleashed by the Russian people who trust and accept his steady hand on the war against America.

You are no longer disguising it.

 

[Donald H]

You are no longer disguising it.

I gotta go with the story that's coming from all the very informed American sources.
Start the debate with something of substance that refutes it, but don't depend on me to take the other side.

What does Tucker say?

 

[toomuchtime_]

I gotta go with the story that's coming from all the very informed American sources.
Start the debate with something of substance that refutes it, but don't depend on me to take the other side.

What does Tucker say?

"Bhah! I got fired! Bhah!"

 

[luiza]

Interesting assessment from OP .
Seems the Moscow team are winning by four rounds to one so far and looking stronger as the fight progresses.

But hey ho . Why follow facts when you need to preserve ones embarrassment from the truth being told ?

 

[Litwin]

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Russian President Vladimir Putin chairs a meeting with members of the Russian government via teleconference in Moscow on March 10, 2022. MIKHAIL KLIMENTYEV/SPUTNIK/AFP via Getty Images© MIKHAIL KLIMENTYEV/SPUTNIK/AFP via Getty Images

• Members of the Russian elite are turning against the Ukraine war, Bloomberg reported.
• They best they can hope for is losing without humiliation, the report said.
• However Putin shows no sign of wanting to end the conflict, it said.

Many members of Russia's elite are growing doubtful about the ability of their president, Vladimir Putin, to win the war in Ukraine, Bloomberg reported.
The best they can hope for is a "frozen" conflict or a loss in which Russia isn't humilated, the report said.
Despite this deepening gloom, Putin shows no sign of wishing to end the war, according to Bloomberg.
The outlet cited seven people with knowledge of the situation who asked not to be identified given the seriousness of the issues.
It said that many in the upper echelons of Russian politics and business are tired of the war and want it to end.

MSN

www.msn.com

A few days ago, Prigozhin predicted ultranationalists would rise up against Putin because of his poor management of the war within a few months, and now this seems to confirm it. Will Putin mysteriously tumble out of a window to his death or "accidentally" take too much blood thinner and stroke out?

how many of them fight this war ? even illegitimate sons of Moscow elite can avoid putin´s war

Reality of putin´s empire : The illegitimate son of Shoigu fled from mobilization in Turkey, His mother Elena, the mistress of the Minister of Defense

putin´s gang sand to the death only sons of ordinary ivan and natasha The illegitimate son of Shoigu fled from mobilization in Turkey, - Navalny's team. 22-year-old Danila Shebunov is trying to break into show business for his father's millions under the pseudonym Sheba. The guy already owns...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Litwin]

Russians

any comment on this ?

Reality of putin´s empire : The illegitimate son of Shoigu fled from mobilization in Turkey, His mother Elena, the mistress of the Minister of Defense

putin´s gang sand to the death only sons of ordinary ivan and natasha The illegitimate son of Shoigu fled from mobilization in Turkey, - Navalny's team. 22-year-old Danila Shebunov is trying to break into show business for his father's millions under the pseudonym Sheba. The guy already owns...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[Silver Cat]

any comment on this ?

Reality of putin´s empire : The illegitimate son of Shoigu fled from mobilization in Turkey, His mother Elena, the mistress of the Minister of Defense

putin´s gang sand to the death only sons of ordinary ivan and natasha The illegitimate son of Shoigu fled from mobilization in Turkey, - Navalny's team. 22-year-old Danila Shebunov is trying to break into show business for his father's millions under the pseudonym Sheba. The guy already owns...

www.usmessageboard.com

And who said, that he doesn't make some confidential work with his father's collègues in Turkey? There is no total mobilisation in Russia, yet.

 

[Litwin]

And who said, that he doesn't make some confidential work with his father's collègues in Turkey? There is no total mobilisation in Russia, yet.

i see, what shapiro - solovev´s son do in London ? why he isn´t on front-line ?

 

[Donald H]

Do you really think that somebody's son being a male model/whatever is important?

All that is important now is America finding a path to peace before Russia takes the entire Ukraine.

Or we all see a nuclear war?

Stop your ridiculous childish jabbing and address the real issues.

Advances by the Ukraine passed on by you may at least raise interesting questions.

It's for your own good Litwin, if you don't want to continue being ignored.

 

[Ringo]

The only thing the psychopaths running US worries about in Ukraine, is that they'll run out of people there to die for them, before they can do any real damage to Russia.

Defense Contractor Funded Think Tanks Dominate Ukraine Debate - Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft

The vast majority of media mentions of think tanks in articles about U.S. arms and the Ukraine war have been from think tanks whose funders profit from U.S. military spending, arms sales and, in many cases, directly from U.S. involvement in the Ukraine war.

quincyinst.org

 

[Donald H]

The only thing the psychopaths running US worries about in Ukraine, is that they'll run out of people there to die for them, before they can do any real damage to Russia.

America still has plans on how to continue without enough Ukrainians to man the battle stations.

But some of the plans contain escalations that will call for massively bigger escalations by Russia. Or, escalations that Russia simply won't accept.

Think ahead 6 months or so and imagine a formidable size strike on Moscow or even Russia's Crimea naval base, with American weapons only claimed to be launched by Ukrainian hands.

Then try to imagine that Putin/Russia won't strike back at the very heart of the real enemy!

 

[Litwin]

Russia

ivan, any comment on this ? looks like your commanders are the pederasts

 

[Ringo]

Ok
We were told Putin blew up his own bridge to Crimea, shelled the nuclear power plant he controlled, blew up his own pipeline, and bombed the dam the same nuclear power plant depended on for cooling and Crimea depended on for water
They think we are dumb, and they're right

 

[Litwin]

we all see a nuclear war?

in your tsar´s pans only

for you :

 

[Litwin]

Ok
We were told Putin blew up his own bridge to Crimea, shelled the nuclear power plant he controlled, blew up his own pipeline, and bombed the dam the same nuclear power plant depended on for cooling and Crimea depended on for water
...

yes, your horde SUCKS BIG TIME AND YOU SUCK

 

[Donald H]

Yes! That's what is expected of you.

If Russia is having nightmares then the entire world should be having nightmares!

 

[para bellum]

Lol. Prigozhin is accusing Shoigu of planning a nuclear strike on Belgorod.

This guy isn't long for this world, I think...