Manmade climate change predictions are a bust

[badbob85037]

Al Gore claimed that the polar ice would melt by 2013.
Al Gore’s science advisor (Michael Oppenheimer) said in 1990 that by 1996 the Platte River of Nebraska would be dry and the Mexican police will round up illegal American migrants surging into Mexico seeking work.
Obama’s science advisor (John Holdren) said that CO2 induced famines could kill as many as a billion people before 2020.
The father of global warming (James Hansen) said in 1986 that temperatures could rise by 7 degrees Fahrenheit by 2020 (but it only rose by 1 degree Fahrenheit)
Prince Charles said in 2009 that we have 50 days to save the planet from catastrophe.
The UN climate official (Noel Brown) said in 1989 that entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000.

Man-made climate change scam

Villager John Shewchuk, writing in an Opinion piece, contends climate change is not man-made – it's completely natural.

www.villages-news.com

50 Years of Failed Doomsday, Eco-pocalyptic Predictions; the So-called 'experts' Are 0-50

This week Myron Ebell (director of the Center for Energy and Environment at the Competitive Enterprise Institute) and Steven J. Milloy published a post on the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) blog titled “Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions:” Modern doomsayers have...

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The manmade climate change predictions have all been a total bust.
But, that has not stopped the Climate Change Crackpots from imposing harmful regulations.
The Democrats want to ban the manufacturing of gas powered cars in 8 years.
Our power grid can't handle the electrical load of charging 290 million cars every day.
Electric cars are not emissions free, they only displace CO2 to the power plants.
Lithium strip mining is not environmentally friendly.
Poor people will not be able to afford EVs.
The Europeans have learned the hard way that alternative energy is not enough to power a growing economy.
Our greedy corrupt Democrat Party is using climate change FEAR to plunder the Taxpayers with $Trillion Dollar$ climate change boondoggle kick-back scams.
Future scientists will look back at this time in humanity and wonder how so many people could have been fooled by the manmade global warming hysteria.

And we have a lame ass president I wouldn't piss on if on fire giving these con men billions. You would think we learned nothing about the French after WWII and Joe had a front row seat.

 

[Crick]

And we have a lame ass president I wouldn't piss on if on fire giving these con men billions. You would think we learned nothing about the French after WWII and Joe had a front row seat.

Numerous predictions by actual climate scientists have come true - in many cases conditions have gotten worse than predicted. Biden is absolutely correct to take thorough and committed action to reduce America's GHG emissions and you're an idiot to oppose him. But, I bet you already knew that.

 

[Briss]

.1895-Geologists Think the World May Be Frozen Up Again
– New York Times, February 1895

•1902 -“Disappearing Glaciers…deteriorating slowly, with a persistency that means their final annihilation…scientific fact…surely disappearing.”
– Los Angeles Times

•1912 - Prof. Schmidt Warns Us of an Encroaching Ice Age
–New York Times, October 1912

•1923 - “Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canada” – Professor Gregory of Yale University, American representative to the Pan-Pacific Science Congress, –
Chicago Tribune

•1923 - “The discoveries of changes in the sun’s heat and the southward advance of glaciers in recent years have given rise to conjectures of the possible advent of a new ice age” –Washington Post

•1924 - MacMillan Reports Signs of New Ice Age–
New York Times, Sept 18, 1924

•1929 - “Most geologists think the world is growing warmer, and that it will continue to get warmer” –
Los Angeles Times

•1932 - “If these things be true, it is evident, therefore that we must be just teetering on an ice age” –
The Atlantic magazine, This Cold, Cold World

•1933 - America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a 25-Year Rise
– New York Times, March 27th, 1933

•1933 – “…wide-spread and persistent tendency toward warmer weather…Is our climate changing?”
– Federal Weather Bureau “Monthly Weather Review.”

•1938 - Global warming, caused by man heating the planet with carbon dioxide, “is likely to prove beneficial to mankind in several ways, besides the provision of heat and power.”– Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society

•1938 - “Experts puzzle over 20 year mercury rise…Chicago is in the front rank of thousands of cities thuout the world which have been affected by a mysterious trend toward warmer climate in the last two decades”
– Chicago Tribune

•1939 - “Gaffers who claim that winters were harder when they were boys are quite right… weather men have no doubt that the world at least for the time being is growing warmer”
-Washington Post

•1952 - “…we have learned that the world has been getting warmer in the last half century”
– New York Times, August 10th, 1962

•1954 - “…winters are getting milder, summers drier. Glaciers are receding, deserts growing”
– U.S. News and World Report

•1954 - Climate – the Heat May Be Off
– Fortune Magazine

•1959 - “Arctic Findings in Particular Support Theory of Rising Global Temperatures”
– New York Times

•1969 - “…the Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two”
– New York Times, February 20th, 1969

•1970 - “…get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters – the worst may be yet to come…there’s no relief in sight”
– Washington Post

•1974 - Global cooling for the past forty years
– Time Magazine

•1974 - “Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age”
– Washington Post

•1974 - “As for the present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists have concluded that it is very bad news indeed”
– Fortune magazine, who won a Science Writing Award from the American Institute of Physics for its analysis of the danger

•1974 - “…the facts of the present climate change are such that the most optimistic experts would assign near certainty to major crop failure…mass deaths by starvation, and probably anarchy and violence”
– New York Times

•1975 - Scientists Ponder Why World’s Climate is Changing; A Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable
– New York Times, May 21st, 1975

•1975 - “The threat of a new ice age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of wholesale death and misery for mankind” Nigel Calder, editor,
New Scientist magazine, in an article in International
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[Sunsettommy]

Numerous predictions by actual climate scientists have come true - in many cases conditions have gotten worse than predicted. Biden is absolutely correct to take thorough and committed action to reduce America's GHG emissions and you're an idiot to oppose him. But, I bet you already knew that.

You keep on lying despite many evidences of easy to understand prediction failures.

 

[Sunsettommy]

What does "we have all been consistent with the data" mean? Do you believe the world is not getting warmer?

You ass! No one is disputing the small warming trend it is the exaggerations and lies behind them that bugs rational people.

You on and on with your red herring based LIES!

 

[Sunsettommy]

BtW, the argument that CO2 is not a warming risk due to the logarithmic nature of its effect has a few flaws.

1) The increase of GHG's in the atmopshere have been, themselves, exponential and to such an extent that the resultant warming is accelerating.
2) The primary effect of adding GHGs to the atmopshere takes place at elevations where those levels are historically much lower than the atmospheric average. Thus the effect of added GHGs is much futher back on the logarithmic curve than the 420 ppm atmospheric average.
3) The increase of GHG's in the upper atmosphere raises the elevation at which that IR finally escapes to space. That results in that release taking place at colder and colder temperatures, thus reducing the amount of energy actually being released to space and retaining energy in the lower atmosphere, raising global temperatures.

LOLOLOLOL

There was been NO warming for over 6 years now definitely not accelerating which is a bald faced lie since the rate of warming dropped three months ago with UAH satellite data it was .14C/decade now it is .13C/decade.

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Here is a simple CO2 LOG chart based on MODTRAN for the brain diseased warmists to contemplate.

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this one including the IPCC sensitivity

You ain't got shit to work with!

 

[Sunsettommy]

You're waiting till after doomsday to act?

There is no climate emergency which is why ONLY Warmist/alarmists are upset and whining that no one takes them seriously after a truck load of prediction failures have become reality they lose their cedibility too.

Now all there is left are warmist GOOKS running around with a lot of fallacies and Consensus bullshit to depend on which is all about LOSING!

 

[task0778]

It's a scam to redistribute wealth from those who earned it to the con artists, crooks, and democrat cronies. We've been hearing this global warming/climate change shit for more than 40 years now, and every dire projection or forecast that has been made has turned out to be wrong. All of 'em. There's no real evidence of any impending catastrophe due to AGW, and there's no real evidence that any of the prosed high dollar programs will do jack-shit to resolve a problem that hasn't been proved to exist in the 1st place.

 

[skookerasbil]

When you win, we all lose including yourself.

Global mean warming reached 1°C above preindustrial for the first time. It is a signal from the climate system that time is running out if we are to be able to reduce emissions fast enough so as to hold warming below 2°C, and ultimately below 1.5°C by 2100

You are stupid. But hey, most humans are.

 

[skookerasbil]

Numerous predictions by actual climate scientists have come true - in many cases conditions have gotten worse than predicted. Biden is absolutely correct to take thorough and committed action to reduce America's GHG emissions and you're an idiot to oppose him. But, I bet you already knew that.

But where is there ANY logic to reducing "America's" GHG emissions while China opens 2-3 new coal plants/ month and will for the next 9 years.
The AGW bozos always talk about "averages". Do you think China emissions don't effect the planet?

Climate crusaders are not serious people....and the public knows it too. The construct is laughable...obviously.

Anyway....the clown show ends in 7 short months. Nobody in DC will be caring about emissions for a long time. Hell...they're not caring now.

 

[sealybobo]

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The second two are correct. The kids a retard

 

[Crick]

.1895-Geologists Think the World May Be Frozen Up Again
– New York Times, February 1895

•1902 -“Disappearing Glaciers…deteriorating slowly, with a persistency that means their final annihilation…scientific fact…surely disappearing.”
– Los Angeles Times

•1912 - Prof. Schmidt Warns Us of an Encroaching Ice Age
–New York Times, October 1912

•1923 - “Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canada” – Professor Gregory of Yale University, American representative to the Pan-Pacific Science Congress, –
Chicago Tribune

•1923 - “The discoveries of changes in the sun’s heat and the southward advance of glaciers in recent years have given rise to conjectures of the possible advent of a new ice age” –Washington Post

•1924 - MacMillan Reports Signs of New Ice Age–
New York Times, Sept 18, 1924

•1929 - “Most geologists think the world is growing warmer, and that it will continue to get warmer” –
Los Angeles Times

•1932 - “If these things be true, it is evident, therefore that we must be just teetering on an ice age” –
The Atlantic magazine, This Cold, Cold World

•1933 - America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a 25-Year Rise
– New York Times, March 27th, 1933

•1933 – “…wide-spread and persistent tendency toward warmer weather…Is our climate changing?”
– Federal Weather Bureau “Monthly Weather Review.”

•1938 - Global warming, caused by man heating the planet with carbon dioxide, “is likely to prove beneficial to mankind in several ways, besides the provision of heat and power.”– Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society

•1938 - “Experts puzzle over 20 year mercury rise…Chicago is in the front rank of thousands of cities thuout the world which have been affected by a mysterious trend toward warmer climate in the last two decades”
– Chicago Tribune

•1939 - “Gaffers who claim that winters were harder when they were boys are quite right… weather men have no doubt that the world at least for the time being is growing warmer”
-Washington Post

•1952 - “…we have learned that the world has been getting warmer in the last half century”
– New York Times, August 10th, 1962

•1954 - “…winters are getting milder, summers drier. Glaciers are receding, deserts growing”
– U.S. News and World Report

•1954 - Climate – the Heat May Be Off
– Fortune Magazine

•1959 - “Arctic Findings in Particular Support Theory of Rising Global Temperatures”
– New York Times

•1969 - “…the Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two”
– New York Times, February 20th, 1969

•1970 - “…get a good grip on your long johns, cold weather haters – the worst may be yet to come…there’s no relief in sight”
– Washington Post

•1974 - Global cooling for the past forty years
– Time Magazine

•1974 - “Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age”
– Washington Post

•1974 - “As for the present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists have concluded that it is very bad news indeed”
– Fortune magazine, who won a Science Writing Award from the American Institute of Physics for its analysis of the danger

•1974 - “…the facts of the present climate change are such that the most optimistic experts would assign near certainty to major crop failure…mass deaths by starvation, and probably anarchy and violence”
– New York Times

•1975 - Scientists Ponder Why World’s Climate is Changing; A Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable
– New York Times, May 21st, 1975

•1975 - “The threat of a new ice age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of wholesale death and misery for mankind” Nigel Calder, editor,
New Scientist magazine, in an article in International
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Note that only 2 of the 26 articles quoted here appear in science journals and they're from 1933 and 1938. The rest are simply newspaper articles. And, of course, these are just brief extracted quotes. There's no telling if they actually convey the central message of the source article. At no time has there been anything resembling a consensus among climate scientists that the world was looking at an imminent ice age.

 

[ding]

Note that only 2 of the 26 articles quoted here appear in science journals and they're from 1933 and 1938. The rest are simply newspaper articles. And, of course, these are just brief extracted quotes. There's no telling if they actually convey the central message of the source article. At no time has there been anything resembling a consensus among climate scientists that the world was looking at an imminent ice age.

Based upon the paleo climate data below... how many degrees is the earth above the temperature threshold for extensive northern hemisphere continental glaciation?

 

[Crick]

Note that only 2 of the 26 articles quoted here appear in science journals and they're from 1933 and 1938. The rest are simply newspaper articles. And, of course, these are just brief extracted quotes. There's no telling if they actually convey the central message of the source article. At no time has there been anything resembling a consensus among climate scientists that the world was looking at an imminent ice age.

Global cooling - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Media content in the 1970s suggesting a concern about cooling temperatures did NOT reflect any scientific consensus.

 

[ding]

The northern hemisphere is less than 2C away from extensive continental glaciation.

 

[Rigby5]

Why do you want the planet to be colder. You live in Michigan for crying out loud. You should want a warmer planet.

In general, colder is more productive.
For example, when you sent out fishing fleets, they do not go to the equator, but to the poles instead.
When it warms, that is more dry and therefore more lifeless.
While there are jungles in warm areas, they are not very productive really.
When we try to do slash and burn farming over jungle areas, the soil is extremely poor and things do not grow well.

It is not that we could not adapt to a warmer planet, but that everyone doing agriculture would have to move.
It would be very expensive to try to adapt to the new weather conditions.
Coastlines could rise by as much as 250'.

 

[Rigby5]

The northern hemisphere is less than 2C away from extensive continental glaciation.

A 2 degree change is massive.
They say a 10 degree change would likely cause human species extinction.
We are supposed to be at the start of a cooling period.
The warming that ended the ice age is supposed to be over.

 

[Rigby5]

.1895-Geologists Think the World May Be Frozen Up Again
– New York Times, February 1895

The point is that from historic cycles, we ARE supposed to be entering another ice age.
But that is good.
Cold and wet is more productive than hot and dry.

The fact we are compounding an additional hot cycle on top of an existing one, as never happened before.
We are artificially creating a double hot cycle.
We it could release lots of now frozen methane hydrate and cause runaway heat.

 

[Briss]

The point is that from historic cycles, we ARE supposed to be entering another ice age.
But that is good.
Cold and wet is more productive than hot and dry.

The fact we are compounding an additional hot cycle on top of an existing one, as never happened before.
We are artificially creating a double hot cycle.
We it could release lots of now frozen methane hydrate and cause runaway heat.

Yeah, but what are ya gonna do?

 

[Sunsettommy]

A 2 degree change is massive.
They say a 10 degree change would likely cause human species extinction.
We are supposed to be at the start of a cooling period.
The warming that ended the ice age is supposed to be over.

It has been cooling for over 3,000 years now.

Interglacial and Glaciation phases in an Ice age that has existed for about 3 million years.