Mail In Voting Is Social Injustice

[jc456]

Some 90-year-old who can't make it to the polls because they can't stand in line for 30 minutes.

Where's the harm in letting them vote by mail?

We've been voting by mail for over ten years now and it's been a blessing.

They have a thing called wheel chairs

 

[jc456]

I am not talking about individual fraud, but rather systematic fraud, like the unconstitutional changes made right before the election without the legislature being involved...Rather than address that, you people are ignoring that and trying to feign ignorance about it....So, not really an honest conversation from you here...

Bottom line is that should Democrats feel that they can do the same thing they did in '20 in the upcoming election for '22 the people will explode....

They aren’t ignoring it, they’re telling you to fk off. They needed a cheat to win

 

[schmidlap]

Oh just stop....You know full well what I am talking about, and are simply lying when you call it fake....

Fantasies, not matter how desperately you wish for them to be true, must confront and satisfy criteria that are distinguishing characteristics of reality. Among these are the evidentiary demands of legal venues. Nowhere has the self-pleasuring crackpot notion of a mysterious conspiracy to falsify the 2020 presidential election been sustained - not in multiple recounts, not in multiple audits, not in dozens of court challenges.

Trump goons tried to sabotage the will of the American electorate by recourse to illegality - attacking Congress and injured 140 outnumbered police valiantly protecting democracy. (The reality of that is established by hundreds of Trump goons being prosecuted.)

Nowhere in America have Trump worshipers contrived any rational pretexts to contest the certified election results.

The discredited nonsense now only festers in the realm of ideological lunacy - fictional media entertainment and grievance-filled loser jamborees where the Cry Baby Loser plays the victim card in shrill vendetta-driven therapy sessions, never citing particulars of a single actionable impropriety.

When you can come up with anything that can withstand the minimal test of meeting the standards for litigation, please provide the juridical particulars - legal venue, the claim being litigated, etc.

Parroting your aspirational phantasms is no substitute.

Of all the diehard Trumper politicians, prosecutors, and other dedicated cultists still out there, why has not one anywhere come up with sufficient, minimal evidence to file a case somewhere based upon the myriad lurid tales of corruption that persist as airy-fairy dogma?

 

[jc456]

Fantasies, not matter how desperately you wish for them to be true, must confront and satisfy criteria that are distinguishing characteristics of reality. Among these are the evidentiary demands of legal venues. Nowhere has the self-pleasuring crackpot notion of a mysterious conspiracy to falsify the 2020 presidential election been sustained - not in multiple recounts, not in multiple audits, not in dozens of court challenges.

Trump goons tried to sabotage the will of the American electorate by recourse to illegality - attacking Congress and injured 140 outnumbered police valiantly protecting democracy. (The reality of that is established by hundreds of Trump goons being prosecuted.)

Nowhere in America have Trump worshipers contrived any rational pretexts to contest the certified election results.

The discredited nonsense now only festers in the realm of ideological lunacy - fictional media entertainment and grievance-filled loser jamborees where the Cry Baby Loser plays the victim card in shrill vendetta-driven therapy sessions, never citing particulars of a single actionable impropriety.

When you can come up with anything that can withstand the minimal test of meeting the standards for litigation, please provide the juridical particulars - legal venue, the claim being litigated, etc.

Parroting your aspirational phantasms is no substitute.

Of all the diehard Trumper politicians, prosecutors, and other dedicated cultists still out there, why has not one anywhere come up with sufficient, minimal evidence to file a case somewhere based upon the myriad lurid tales of corruption that persist as airy-fairy dogma?

So things you don’t do. That’s considered, irony

 

[schmidlap]

So things you don’t do.

No, as amply demonstrated, I reference the empirical data that underpins reality.

No Trumpster is challenging the certified election in any judicial venue. All judicial venues demand that credible evidence be presented.

The complete absence of actual, evidence-based, legal initiatives against the reality amply defines the crackpot notions as being consummate poo poo that may be entertaining for anyone with a taste for that sort of thing, but not to be taken seriously by serious people.

 

[j-mac]

Fantasies, not matter how desperately you wish for them to be true, must confront and satisfy criteria that are distinguishing characteristics of reality. Among these are the evidentiary demands of legal venues. Nowhere has the self-pleasuring crackpot notion of a mysterious conspiracy to falsify the 2020 presidential election been sustained - not in multiple recounts, not in multiple audits, not in dozens of court challenges.

Trump goons tried to sabotage the will of the American electorate by recourse to illegality - attacking Congress and injured 140 outnumbered police valiantly protecting democracy. (The reality of that is established by hundreds of Trump goons being prosecuted.)

Nowhere in America have Trump worshipers contrived any rational pretexts to contest the certified election results.

The discredited nonsense now only festers in the realm of ideological lunacy - fictional media entertainment and grievance-filled loser jamborees where the Cry Baby Loser plays the victim card in shrill vendetta-driven therapy sessions, never citing particulars of a single actionable impropriety.

When you can come up with anything that can withstand the minimal test of meeting the standards for litigation, please provide the juridical particulars - legal venue, the claim being litigated, etc.

Parroting your aspirational phantasms is no substitute.

Of all the diehard Trumper politicians, prosecutors, and other dedicated cultists still out there, why has not one anywhere come up with sufficient, minimal evidence to file a case somewhere based upon the myriad lurid tales of corruption that persist as airy-fairy dogma?

We know what happened, and will take great pleasure in 24 when we remove the nation’s nightmare…

Flowery language aside, you’re a fool.

 

[j-mac]

No, as amply demonstrated, I reference the empirical data that underpins reality.

No Trumpster is challenging the certified election in any judicial venue. All judicial venues demand that credible evidence be presented.

The complete absence of actual, evidence-based, legal initiatives against the reality amply defines their being consummate poo poo that may be entertaining for anyone with a taste for that sort of thing, but not to be taken seriously by serious people.

You’re the furthest thing from a “serious person” on these boards.

 

[schmidlap]

We know what happened

Of course we do.

Over seven million more Americans voted for the President than for the Cry Baby Loser.

That was validated when the Congress of the United States, with the Vice President presiding, formally endorsed the certified electoral votes of all fifty states and D.C. - certified by them after all the multiple recounts, audits, and frivolous court challenges had fizzled.

McConnell's final remark to Trump was "You lost the election!"​

The Cry Baby Loser's impotence in his capacity to handle the truth and his ongoing grievance jamborees - group therapy sessions for losers - have no impact on the irrefutable reality.

 

[schmidlap]

You’re the furthest thing from a “serious person” on these boards.

Thank you. My reliance on empirical data must seem as an industrial-strength whoopee cushion for some who interface with it.

 

[jc456]

No, as amply demonstrated, I reference the empirical data that underpins reality.

No Trumpster is challenging the certified election in any judicial venue. All judicial venues demand that credible evidence be presented.

The complete absence of actual, evidence-based, legal initiatives against the reality amply defines the crackpot notions as being consummate poo poo that may be entertaining for anyone with a taste for that sort of thing, but not to be taken seriously by serious people.

Naw!!

 

[Chillicothe]

"Trump goons tried to sabotage the will of the American electorate by.......... attacking Congress and injured 140 outnumbered police valiantly protecting democracy. (The reality of that is established by hundreds of Trump goons being prosecuted.)"*

*(And may I add.......many of them pleading guilty before going to trial.)
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Of the wide spectrum of posters who contribute here, my avatar has found the 'schmidlap' avataree......one of the most consistently perceptive. He offers thoughtful insight, and does it with clarity. So good on him. And on us. The forum benefis.

Now, to be sure, (and I don't mean this as snark), his competition ....most particularly amongst the Trumpy RightyWhiteys, are whackaloons. Cultists. Too often, under-educated, or so it appears by their use of our written language....and their frequent lapses into 'f-bomb' frenzies.

They are, as so often exhibited on this venue, the very same caliber of folks that Jordan Klepper persuades to spout off to his YouTube camera.

Schmidlap's query (below), may appear to be just rhetorical. It ain't. An answer is required. An answer other than "all the judges are lefties", "all the judges were bribed", yadda, yadda, yadda

Schmidlap: "Of all the diehard Trumper politicians, prosecutors, and other dedicated cultists still out there, why has not one anywhere come up with sufficient, minimal evidence to file a case somewhere based upon the myriad lurid tales of corruption ..........."

So.....so why have the efforts to go before any court....even known and recognized "conservative" judges, Republican judges......... been shelved?

It's been 15 months since ShirterTucker Guiliani and his muse, Melissa Carone*, unpersuasively presented their case before a Republican Senate Committee in Michigan. It didn't go well for the Trump-team.
Nor did so many other attempts to be convincing.
But is that a reason to stop?

After all,....and this is schmidlap's point.....if all this deadsolidperfect evidence exists.....well, why stop trying to present it? Why not continue to judge-shop?
After all,...... there is plenty of money from the BooBoo's contributions to fund more of a fight.

I would speculate that Shirttucker Rudy, Krakenpot Powell, Lin Wood, Jenna Ellis, Melissa Carone, et al, don't do it anymore because.... .....because they know it is all nonsense. A schtick.
A schtick that eventually became just a fund raising dance-step to hustle donations from the HoneyBooBoo demographic.

Some RightyWhitey wanna respond to poster schmidlap's query?
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[schmidlap]

Naw!!

You may have invested far too much in the way of cerebral resources in your response to the irrefutable reality that you don't like.

Greater concision:

 

[Chillicothe]

*Regular readers here know by now that Melissa Carone is one of my favs. Of the circus that was November 3rd thru January 5th, she personified the caliber of the players...... and their case.

You may not have known this, but......Carone wishes to run for a Michgan state House seat.
As a Republican!
She has been endorsed by Mike Lindell and Roger Stone!


In googling up just how to spell her name, I found this commentary:


"Last December, Melissa Carone rocketed to prominence with a public display of slurred ineptitude so gloriously nuts that even Rudy Guiliani tried to hush her up. As a witness in Rudy’s colossally inept “Stop the Steal” tour, she presented her impossible claim that more than 100,000 votes were illegally cast in Michigan with such self-assured lunacy that SNL featured her in a sketch.
And why was Carone testifying? Giuliani said it was because, as a contractor for Dominion — whose voting machines were used in the state — she had an insider’s knowledge. But according to Dominion, her role was more outside than inside. The company said Carone was "hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks."

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I love this bar

 

[bripat9643]

"In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests."

“Vote by mail really works well here in Utah,” said Justin Lee, director of elections in Utah, where the Republican administration sends ballots to every voter in the state. “We do feel it’s safe and secure. We don’t feel there are any real instances of either widespread fraud or voter disenfranchisement."

Whilst Utah has allowed all elections to be conducted by mail for quite some time, Nebraska and North Dakota have permitted counties to opt into conducting elections by mail, and Alaska, Florida, Kansas, Missouri, Montana, and Wyoming have allowed specific elections to be conducted by mail.

The legislature never voted on it, turd, so it's illegal.

 

[schmidlap]

*(And may I add.......many of them pleading guilty before going to trial.)
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Of the wide spectrum of posters who contribute here, my avatar has found the 'schmidlap' avataree......one of the most consistently perceptive. He offers thoughtful insight, and does it with clarity. So good on him. And on us. The forum benefis.

Now, to be sure, (and I don't mean this as snark), his competition ....most particularly amongst the Trumpy RightyWhiteys, are whackaloons. Cultists. Too often, under-educated, or so it appears by their use of our written language....and their frequent lapses into 'f-bomb' frenzies.

They are, as so often exhibited on this venue, the very same caliber of folks that Jordan Klepper persuades to spout off to his YouTube camera.

Schmidlap's query (below), may appear to be just rhetorical. It ain't. An answer is required. An answer other than "all the judges are lefties", "all the judges were bribed", yadda, yadda, yadda

Schmidlap: "Of all the diehard Trumper politicians, prosecutors, and other dedicated cultists still out there, why has not one anywhere come up with sufficient, minimal evidence to file a case somewhere based upon the myriad lurid tales of corruption ..........."

So.....so why have the efforts to go before any court....even known and recognized "conservative" judges, Republican judges......... been shelved?

It's been 15 months since ShirterTucker Guiliani and his muse, Melissa Carone*, unpersuasively presented their case before a Republican Senate Committee in Michigan. It didn't go well for the Trump-team.
Nor did so many other attempts to be convincing.
But is that a reason to stop?

After all,....and this is schmidlap's point.....if all this deadsolidperfect evidence exists.....well, why stop trying to present it? Why not continue to judge-shop?
After all,...... there is plenty of money from the BooBoo's contributions to fund more of a fight.

I would speculate that Shirttucker Rudy, Krakenpot Powell, Lin Wood, Jenna Ellis, Melissa Carone, et al, don't do it anymore because.... .....because they know it is all nonsense. A schtick.
A schtick that eventually became just a fund raising dance-step to hustle donations from the HoneyBooBoo demographic.

Some RightyWhitey wanna respond to poster schmidlap's query?
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Thank you.

I suspect that the gaping chasm between reality-oriented Americans who dispassionately respect empirical data and the emotionally-driven who mindlessly follow where airy voices lead them demands of them an Evel Knievel leap of faith from faith to reason.

Serious Americans litigate to realize what they believe to be right.

Others ineffectually parrot what media entertainers tell them.

The stampede to the latter recourse is telling.

 

[j-mac]

Of course we do.

Over seven million more Americans voted for the President than for the Cry Baby Loser.

That was validated when the Congress of the United States, with the Vice President presiding, formally endorsed the certified electoral votes of all fifty states and D.C. - certified by them after all the multiple recounts, audits, and frivolous court challenges had fizzled.

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McConnell's final remark to Trump was "You lost the election!"​

The Cry Baby Loser's impotence in his capacity to handle the truth and his ongoing grievance jamborees - group therapy sessions for losers - have no impact on the irrefutable reality.

And when given power, you did what you always do. Overplay your hand, and blow it...Now more than 60% of American's realize that they made a huge mistake, and are regretting their vote...

Which means in about 8 months you're about to loose power....

 

[j-mac]

Thank you. My reliance on empirical data must seem as an industrial-strength whoopee cushion for some who interface with it.

Empirical data you never seem to post....hmmmm....Me thinks you're full of bull excrement .....

 

[schmidlap]

The legislature never voted on it, turd, so it's illegal.

The notion that everything that a legislature does not vote upon is illegal is a fanatically statist notion, coprolite.

After losing, an insistence that all Americans who followed the election laws in their states should be disenfranchised is very, very naughty.

Introduced to Utah in 2013, vote by mail’s primary advantages are convenience, cost savings, and voter turnout. Vote by mail also allows voters to do research on each candidate on their own time wherever they feel comfortable. Utah is one out of twenty-two States that has this option available... As of 2018, 27 of the 29 counties here (98% of Utah’s electorate) have this option. All registered voters in the Utah County’s that allow vote by mail will automatically receive a ballot with prepaid return envelopes if an election is being conducted by mail. Residents of Utah that don’t want to vote by mail need not fret as the option to vote in person is still available for those that like the traditional way. As more and more citizens become aware of the vote by mail options it won’t be a surprise to see more States and counties implementing this option in the upcoming elections.​

History of Voting by Mail in Utah | Skymail International | Salt Lake City

The 2018 primary election season is here! Voting during election season is a right and privilege as citizens of the Unites States that has a storied past. Out of all the votes cast in the 2016 Presidential Election about 25% of the votes cast were by mail. This is significant due to the fact that

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[j-mac]

The notion that everything that a legislature does not vote upon is illegal is a fanatically statist notion, coprolite.

After losing, an insistence that all Americans who followed the election laws in their states should be disenfranchised is very, very naughty.

Introduced to Utah in 2013, vote by mail’s primary advantages are convenience, cost savings, and voter turnout. Vote by mail also allows voters to do research on each candidate on their own time wherever they feel comfortable. Utah is one out of twenty-two States that has this option available... As of 2018, 27 of the 29 counties here (98% of Utah’s electorate) have this option. All registered voters in the Utah County’s that allow vote by mail will automatically receive a ballot with prepaid return envelopes if an election is being conducted by mail. Residents of Utah that don’t want to vote by mail need not fret as the option to vote in person is still available for those that like the traditional way. As more and more citizens become aware of the vote by mail options it won’t be a surprise to see more States and counties implementing this option in the upcoming elections.​

History of Voting by Mail in Utah | Skymail International | Salt Lake City

The 2018 primary election season is here! Voting during election season is a right and privilege as citizens of the Unites States that has a storied past. Out of all the votes cast in the 2016 Presidential Election about 25% of the votes cast were by mail. This is significant due to the fact that

www.skymailint.com

If they do so Constitutionally, then fine, but what we saw was not that...

this is a diversion from what happened...Just a broader version of "But, Jimmy did it too!"

 

[schmidlap]

And when given power, you did what you always do. Overplay your hand, and blow it...Now more than 60% of American's realize that they made a huge mistake, and are regretting their vote...

Which means in about 8 months you're about to loose power....

Your flaccid thinking would dictate that, based upon public opinion, the Cry Baby Loser would have been thrown out on his big fat bum at the beginning of the relentless disapproval that the American people registered in multiple independent polls throughout his tenure.

Fortunately, our system of national governance is based upon quadrennial elections, all of which were ennobled by peaceful transfers of power until the Cry Baby Loser couldn't handle the truth.