Mail In Voting Is Social Injustice

[Rogue AI]

Some 90-year-old who can't make it to the polls because they can't stand in line for 30 minutes.

Where's the harm in letting them vote by mail?

We've been voting by mail for over ten years now and it's been a blessing.

The 90 year old can get an absentee ballot, but still has to be filled out properly.

Absentee ballots are requested, the notion of blanket sending ballots is oppressive. Voting, like the 2nd Amendment is a right one chooses to participate in. Not voting is sending a message all it's own. Forcing ballots upon people is an abuse by the state.

 

[schmidlap]

That's super dishonest.. Nowhere in any bills does it condone unsolicited ballots.

"In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests."

“Vote by mail really works well here in Utah,” said Justin Lee, director of elections in Utah, where the Republican administration sends ballots to every voter in the state. “We do feel it’s safe and secure. We don’t feel there are any real instances of either widespread fraud or voter disenfranchisement."

Whilst Utah has allowed all elections to be conducted by mail for quite some time, Nebraska and North Dakota have permitted counties to opt into conducting elections by mail, and Alaska, Florida, Kansas, Missouri, Montana, and Wyoming have allowed specific elections to be conducted by mail.

 

[schmidlap]

Absentee ballots are requested, the notion of blanket sending ballots is oppressive.

In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests.

In Utah, the Republican administration sends ballots to every voter in the state.

 

[j-mac]

"In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests."

“Vote by mail really works well here in Utah,” said Justin Lee, director of elections in Utah, where the Republican administration sends ballots to every voter in the state. “We do feel it’s safe and secure. We don’t feel there are any real instances of either widespread fraud or voter disenfranchisement."

Whilst Utah has allowed all elections to be conducted by mail for quite some time, Nebraska and North Dakota have permitted counties to opt into conducting elections by mail, and Alaska, Florida, Kansas, Missouri, Montana, and Wyoming have allowed specific elections to be conducted by mail.

Still not honest.. Applications are not ballots.

 

[surada]

Some 90-year-old who can't make it to the polls because they can't stand in line for 30 minutes.

Where's the harm in letting them vote by mail?

We've been voting by mail for over ten years now and it's been a blessing.

Transportation and standing in line is impossible for many people including me.

 

[Rogue AI]

In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters without waiting for requests.

In Utah, the Republican administration sends ballots to every voter in the state.

If I lived in Iowa or Utah I would have sued the state.

 

[schmidlap]

Still not honest.. Applications are not ballots.

It was hilarious to hear so many Republicans whining after Trump lost in Pennsylvania.

Fourteen Pennsylvania House Republicans filed a lawsuit alleging that the state’s vote-by-mail law, Act 77, was unconstitutional.

It had been passed with near-unanimous Republican support in 2019.

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Eleven of the 14 House GOP lawmakers who filed the suit voted for the law. (Two were not in the General Assembly at the time. )

From the GOP website:

 

[j-mac]

It was hilarious to hear so many Republicans whining after Trump lost in Pennsylvania.

Fourteen Pennsylvania House Republicans filed a lawsuit alleging that the state’s vote-by-mail law, Act 77, was unconstitutional.

It had been passed with near-unanimous Republican support in 2019.

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Eleven of the 14 House GOP lawmakers who filed the suit voted for the law. (Two were not in the General Assembly at the time. )

From the GOP website:

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So, dems cheated in PA…Thanks for confirming that…

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Some 90-year-old who can't make it to the polls because they can't stand in line for 30 minutes.

Washington State has universal mail-in voting.

Where's the harm in letting them vote by mail?

Massive fraud.

We've been voting by mail for over ten years now and it's been a blessing.

Requesting an absentee ballot with ID is fine. Automatically sending ballots to everyone is not.

 

[j-mac]

Washington State has universal mail-in voting.

Massive fraud.

Requesting an absentee ballot with ID is fine. Automatically sending ballots to everyone is not.

So what?

 

[Chillicothe]

Forcing ballots upon people is an abuse by the state.

????? "Forcing?"
Really?
"Forcing"?
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• No more mass mailing of unsolicited mail-in ballots.

• That's super dishonest.. Nowhere in any bills does it condone unsolicited ballots.

• Still not honest.. Applications are not ballots.

• Absentee ballots are requested, the notion of blanket sending ballots is oppressive.

Which jurisdictions mailed "unsolicited ballots".
And to whom did they mail 'em to? Previously registered voters at the address of record? Or "Occupant". That is important. You should know which.
And to what effect did these alleged "unsolicited ballots" have in each jurisdiction? and which races? and how do you know?

But more germane than the mindless trope that many jurisdictions "mass mailed" actual ballots to "Occupant" addressees, is that a whole handful of jurisdictions did mail out applications (i.e., forms to request a ballot)....sent to previously registered voters at the addresss of record.

Conflating "applications" with "ballots" is either uninformed, misinformed or mendacious. There is no other explanation for furthering the canard. One of those three -- they don't know; they are wrong; or they are dishonest.

So ask yourself, are you confusing the mailing of applications to the registered voter at the address of record....with something else?

In Iowa, the Republican Party mailed absentee ballot applications to voters..........

 

[schmidlap]

????? "Forcing?"...
Which jurisdictions mailed "unsolicited ballots".
And to whom did they mail 'em to? ...

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Utah law allows counties to opt-in to universal mail-in elections, which means all voters are sent mail ballots whether they request one or not. According to the Salt Lake Tribune, more than two-thirds of Utah's counties conducted universal mail-in elections in 2016 and every one will do so in 2020.​

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"While no system is perfect, Utah is a model showing vote by-mail can be successful and secure," Utah Lt. Gov. Spencer Cox (R), who is the state's elections officer, said in a tweet earlier this summer. "We are happy to advise and assist other states (and we have) to make sure there is no reason to delay a general election."​

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Utah mail-in voting: What to know

As the United States prepares to hold a presidential election in the midst of a deadly pandemic, many states are relying on voting by mail to reduce in-person contact at the polls, including Utah.

www.foxnews.com

1. Will I receive a ballot in the mail?​

If you are an active registered voter, then yes, you will automatically receive a ballot in the mail.

Learn About Voting by Mail – Utah Voter Information

Utah Voter Information

voteinfo.utah.gov

 

[j-mac]

????? "Forcing?"
Really?
"Forcing"?
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Which jurisdictions mailed "unsolicited ballots".
And to whom did they mail 'em to? Previously registered voters at the address of record? Or "Occupant". That is important. You should know which.
And to what effect did these alleged "unsolicited ballots" have in each jurisdiction? and which races? and how do you know?

But more germane than the mindless trope that many jurisdictions "mass mailed" actual ballots to "Occupant" addressees, is that a whole handful of jurisdictions did mail out applications (i.e., forms to request a ballot)....sent to previously registered voters at the addresss of record.

Conflating "applications" with "ballots" is either uninformed, misinformed or mendacious. There is no other explanation for furthering the canard. One of those three -- they don't know; they are wrong; or they are dishonest.

So ask yourself, are you confusing the mailing of applications to the registered voter at the address of record....with something else?

No, I am not confusing anything....The fact is that in some of the disputed states, if not all of them, election laws were altered by SoS's, Election boards, and or Governors, against those states constitutions...The votes garnered by those unconstitutional changes should be disqualified.

Also, there were votes collected by 'ballot harvesters' against election laws...Those votes should be thrown out...

The cases dismissed by judges in these states, I believe was in violation of their duty, and their oaths, thus those judges should be removed from the bench.

Now, will any of this happen without a complete, and open true audit in these states? No...So, we will just have to continue on with the results of a questionable election, that should contain an asterisk for history.

And in the future, beginning with 22, double our efforts early on to quash any of this sort of cheating being attempted by Democrats.

The good news is that Covid is not likely to be a plausible excuse to carry out the false flag that allowed this crap in the first place....

 

[Chillicothe]

And in the future, beginning with 22, double our efforts early on to quash any of this sort of cheating being attempted by Democrats.

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The problem ....one of 'em, at least......with the above poster's complaints, most especially the one I quote directly above, is that the known and charged incidents of "cheating" in 2020 were by Republicans......in Pennsylvania, in Texas, in The Villages community in Florida.

And look at what the famed Cyber Ninjas uncovered in Arizona----- votes improperly added to DTrump........which helped DTrump.
And votes improperly not counted for Joe Biden......which helped DTrump.

So, while there is much caterwauling over "Dem cheating" in 2020.....what we have been reliably shown to date is.......Republican cheating.

So there is that.

 

[Who_Me?]

Some 90-year-old who can't make it to the polls because they can't stand in line for 30 minutes.

Where's the harm in letting them vote by mail?

We've been voting by mail for over ten years now and it's been a blessing.

I voted by mail in the 2020 election for the first time ever because of the pandemic. I don't see harm in it.

 

[schmidlap]

The votes garnered by those unconstitutional changes should be disqualified.

Also, there were votes collected by 'ballot harvesters' against election laws...Those votes should be thrown out...

The cases dismissed by judges in these states, I believe was in violation of their duty, and their oaths, thus those judges should be removed from the bench.

Such consummate bovine feces is exposed by the indisputable reality that not even the Trumpiest of Trumpy officeholders, prosecutors, or attorneys are pursuing any legal redress - that demands credible evidence - anywhere concerning any of these fake claims.

Such conspiracy nonsense, bamboo ballots dropped by Italian satellites included, has been relegated to the lunatic fringe, and the crackpot media entertainers that pander to that audience.

POLITICS IS NOT THE WEIRD WORSHIP OF ONE DUDE
- certainly not a Cry Baby Loser who can't handle the truth.

Presiding over sniveling, grievance-ridden loser jamborees
remains an option, of course, despite conservative politicians'
desperate need to move beyond the vapid bellywhinging.


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[Chillicothe]

"Presiding over sniveling, grievance-ridden loser jamborees remains an option, of course, despite conservative politicians' desperate need to move beyond the vapid bellywhinging."

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"Grievance-ridden loser jamborees"!


A keenly envious hat-tip for colorful imagery that frames the issue with welcome clarity and economy.

 

[Not a Monkeys Uncle]

That's super dishonest.. Nowhere in any bills does it condone unsolicited ballots.

I agree. He also looks gay

 

[j-mac]

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The problem ....one of 'em, at least......with the above poster's complaints, most especially the one I quote directly above, is that the known and charged incidents of "cheating" in 2020 were by Republicans......in Pennsylvania, in Texas, in The Villages community in Florida.

And look at what the famed Cyber Ninjas uncovered in Arizona----- votes improperly added to DTrump........which helped DTrump.
And votes improperly not counted for Joe Biden......which helped DTrump.

So, while there is much caterwauling over "Dem cheating" in 2020.....what we have been reliably shown to date is.......Republican cheating.

So there is that.

I am not talking about individual fraud, but rather systematic fraud, like the unconstitutional changes made right before the election without the legislature being involved...Rather than address that, you people are ignoring that and trying to feign ignorance about it....So, not really an honest conversation from you here...

Bottom line is that should Democrats feel that they can do the same thing they did in '20 in the upcoming election for '22 the people will explode....

 

[j-mac]

Such consummate bovine feces is exposed by the indisputable reality that not even the Trumpiest of Trumpy officeholders, prosecutors, or attorneys are pursuing any legal redress - that demands credible evidence - anywhere concerning any of these fake claims.

Such conspiracy nonsense, bamboo ballots dropped by Italian satellites included, has been relegated to the lunatic fringe, and the crackpot media entertainers that pander to that audience.

POLITICS IS NOT THE WEIRD WORSHIP OF ONE DUDE
- certainly not a Cry Baby Loser who can't handle the truth.

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Presiding over sniveling, grievance-ridden loser jamborees
remains an option, of course, despite conservative politicians'
desperate need to move beyond the vapid bellywhinging.


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Oh just stop....You know full well what I am talking about, and are simply lying when you call it fake....

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So, what did the Democrats do? They said, well you know what, we have a good idea, a few months before the election, they said, yes, no signatures required, you don’t need signature comparisons, you don’t need a postal date, and if the postal date is smudged, you are to count it anyway, oh and yes, even though election day ends on Tuesday at 8pm ET, we are going to extend it to 5pm ET on Friday.

They had no legal or constitutional basis for doing any of that.

So they violated Article II Section 1 Clause 2 of the United States Constitution which leaves the power to the state legislature to make the election laws."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/12/07/levin_why_pennsylvania_mail-in-ballot_changes_are_unconstitutional.html#!