MAGA, Trump loyalist and the 2007 Tea Party

[martybegan]

That's one of the most ignorant things I've heard you Trump loyalist say all day.

"You're either this or that." <<< That's retarded. There's nothing 2 sided about politics, unless you're a loyalist.

FFS, you have Trump loyalist. You have centrist. There are fiscal conservatives. There are RINOs. there's several different sides in just the GOP.

Fact: You loyalist cry about Massie more than you do the democrats. And he votes with the GOP 91% of the time.

Y'all are the reason why the democrats will gain the majority.
You're take over of the Tea Party is why Obama won.

Our political system is binary. Third parties that don't supplant one of the dominant parties merely siphon votes from the party they are closest to.

Subdivisions are just that. and infighting only lets the other side win.

Dems win because they become a bloc when going for the big scores, regardless of their own fragmentary nature.

Meanwhile simps like you sabotage people you are or pretend to be more closely aligned to over some self created goal of "purity"

 

[YoursTruly]

Both the Tea Party and MAGA had perfectly reasonable concerns, grievances and wishes. But whatever in the world made them sell their soul to such an obviously damaged huckster is just a goddamn mystery.

If (a big "if") current trends hold and the Dems make a big comeback, if we end up swinging wildly back to the hard Left after this, it will be the fault of the MAGA people in Congress and at the ballot box who enabled what is happening.

It took a lot of big money to overcome the tea party. But they had big money, from people like the Koch brothers and other big donors.

Massie is one of the few supporters of the 2007 tea party. The others, like Justin Amash, have been weeded out by the RINO's and Trump supporters.

Mike Lee is still in congress. But he's somewhat sold out in recent years.

 

[TNHarley]

Everything you said is opinion, and the opinion of someone who would rather lose the right way than win the wrong way, or demands perfection of their own side while letting the other play as dirty as they want.

No, its not.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The Republican Party has seen some crazy on the last few decades

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We have, indeed, seen some crazy. So what's new?







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[YoursTruly]

Our political system is binary. Third parties that don't supplant one of the dominant parties merely siphon votes from the party they are closest to.

If the GOP was so great, there would only be them.

Subdivisions are just that. and infighting only lets the other side win.

Dems win because they become a bloc when going for the big scores, regardless of their own fragmentary nature.

Meanwhile simps like you sabotage people you are or pretend to be more closely aligned to over some self created goal of "purity"

Trump is causing the infighting, dood. He's not cut spending, cut taxes/tariffs. He's not released all the Epstein files. He's not stopped bombing. The only real promise he's kept has been the borders.

Blaming us actual conservatives for the democrats gaining the majority back, is silly. All Trump had to do was what he said he'd do when he was campaigning.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If the GOP was so great, there would only be them.



Trump is causing the infighting, dood. He's not cut spending, cut taxes/tariffs. He's not released all the Epstein files. He's not stopped bombing. The only real promise he's kept has been the borders.

Blaming us actual conservatives for the democrats gaining the majority back, is silly. All Trump had to do was what he said he'd do when he was campaigning.

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[Mac1958]

It took a lot of big money to overcome the tea party. But they had big money, from people like the Koch brothers and other big donors.

Massie is one of the few supporters of the 2007 tea party. The others, like Justin Amash, have been weeded out by the RINO's and Trump supporters.

Mike Lee is still in congress. But he's somewhat sold out in recent years.

I suspect those on the Right who are horrified by this need to worry about their core beliefs being discredited for a long time if this goes south. I've seen zero indication that the Dems plan on moderating their positions on anything if they regain power.

The Dems went too far and pissed off enough people to let Trump in the door. Now the Republicans are doing exactly the same thing in reverse. I really don't think the country can take much more of this back-and-forth tribalism. The Republicans hitched their wagon to a guy who does NOT have its best interests at heart.

 

[martybegan]

If the GOP was so great, there would only be them.



Trump is causing the infighting, dood. He's not cut spending, cut taxes/tariffs. He's not released all the Epstein files. He's not stopped bombing. The only real promise he's kept has been the borders.

Blaming us actual conservatives for the democrats gaining the majority back, is silly. All Trump had to do was what he said he'd do when he was campaigning.

I said Binary, not unitary.

Borders, trans idiocy, trade, our participation in bullshit AGW tripe, trying to cut the size of federal government.

But keep harping on the stuff you find bad, as the concern troll you are.

 

[TNHarley]

people who actually fight.

By doing all things leftist. And trump making you guys LOVE it.

 

[martybegan]

By doing all things leftist. And trump making you guys LOVE it.

"leftist"

People who demand purity tests at the expense of getting what they want even partially are ******* idiots.

 

[TNHarley]

Our political system is binary. Third parties that don't supplant one of the dominant parties merely siphon votes from the party they are closest to.

Subdivisions are just that. and infighting only lets the other side win.

Dems win because they become a bloc when going for the big scores, regardless of their own fragmentary nature.

Meanwhile simps like you sabotage people you are or pretend to be more closely aligned to over some self created goal of "purity"

Bro, this is gaslighting bullshit. You guys dont even pretend to care anymore. You LITERALLY now defend things you hated 1.5 years ago. What you said might have a little merit if you guys could even criticize some of his leftist BS. Yall cant even do that.
You are loyal to trump. Thats it. Not your movement and not what you guys supposedly believe in. And now i question whether you people even believe in anything.

 

[YoursTruly]

I said Binary, not unitary.

Borders, trans idiocy, trade, our participation in bullshit AGW tripe, trying to cut the size of federal government.

But keep harping on the stuff you find bad, as the concern troll you are.

Trumps promises were unitary.

Good grief dood. Loyalist like you are exactly why MAGA is going to implode.

Y'all better start holding Trump accountable now if you want the 2028 elections to go to a Republican. Give him time to start doing what's right for America, on more fronts than just immigration.

Because all those things I've listed aren't MAGA. And aren't America 1st. They're Make Trump Great Again. And Trump 1st.

 

[TNHarley]

"leftist"

People who demand purity tests at the expense of getting what they want even partially are ******* idiots.

DUDE he has threatened many nations, and overtopped a leader. You guys were against that.
He is spending us into oblivion. Remember when you guys were against that?
Remember when you guys were against foreign aid?
Remember when you guys wanted the epstein creeps to face justice?
Remember when you guys were against big spending?
Remember when you guys were against race based policies?
You should because it was under 2 years ago.
Save your bullshit for an idiot that doesnt know any better.

 

[martybegan]

Bro, this is gaslighting bullshit. You guys dont even pretend to care anymore. You LITERALLY now defend things you hated 1.5 years ago. What you said might have a little merit if you guys could even criticize some of his leftist BS. Yall cant even do that.
You are loyal to trump. Thats it. Not your movement and not what you guys supposedly believe in. And now i question whether you people even believe in anything.

We defend the overall goals of Trump and those like him and refuse to get distracted by chickenshit playing into the hands of the left.

Again, demanding purity when all it will do is let the other side destroy our Republic.

I believe in fixing this country and winning.

 

[martybegan]

Trumps promises were unitary.

Good grief dood. Loyalist like you are exactly why MAGA is going to implode.

Y'all better start holding Trump accountable now if you want the 2028 elections to go to a Republican. Give him time to start doing what's right for America, on more fronts than just immigration.

Because all those things I've listed aren't MAGA. And aren't America 1st. They're Make Trump Great Again. And Trump 1st.

Yes, because backing down and letting the left win now will guarantee us a win in 2028....

You are a ******* retard.

 

[TNHarley]

We defend the overall goals of Trump

No, you defend what he does. When did he campaign on being a socialist?

demanding purity

Oh, you mean integrity.

I believe in fixing this country and winning.

By throwing money all over the planet, starting wars and spending us into oblivion? LMAO ok bro.

 

[martybegan]

DUDE he has threatened many nations, and overtopped a leader. You guys were against that.
He is spending us into oblivion. Remember when you guys were against that?
Remember when you guys were against foreign aid?
Remember when you guys wanted the epstein creeps to face justice?
Remember when you guys were against big spending?
Remember when you guys were against race based policies?
You should because it was under 2 years ago.
Save your bullshit for an idiot that doesnt know any better.

Nations who are against our interests. A leader with an indictment who cheated in their own elections. Good
That is a national problem, and the dems would be worse
He is cutting foreign aid. Is this a "we hate the JOOOOOS" Israel reference?
The documents have been released.
He tried DOGE, you guys hated it
What race based policies does Trump support?


Go **** yourself with an AIDS infested flaming tire iron, you prog in conservative clothing.

 

[TNHarley]

Yes, because backing down and letting the left win now will guarantee us a win in 2028....

You are a ******* retard.

You guys ARE the left now.
Do you realize he was saying that trump needs to do what he said, and not what he is actually doing, right? Nowhere did he say to backdown to the left. Because that IS what you guys are doing.
Stop gaslighting decent people because you have no integrity.

 

[martybegan]

No, you defend what he does. When did he campaign on being a socialist?

Oh, you mean integrity.

By throwing money all over the planet, starting wars and spending us into oblivion? LMAO ok bro.

He's not a socialist you ninny.

Once again demanding integrity only of your own side so we lose with honor.

 

[martybegan]

You guys ARE the left now.
Do you realize he was saying that trump needs to do what he said, and not what he is actually doing, right? Nowhere did he say to backdown to the left. Because that IS what you guys are doing.
Stop gaslighting decent people because you have no integrity.

Nope.

You aren't decent. you are pathetic.