MAGA: DrumpF wants to trade Amnesty (DACA) for Wall funds. MAGA The DrumpF Amnesty of 2019?

Supposedly, Trump will offer some type of a deal on DACA

try selling us all out......

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4:40 AM - 11 Jan 2019
I think he knows that the psychos Chucky & Nan won't take the deal, just like the last time he offered this very thing.


I wouldn't bow to the tyrant either....~S~
He's offering them what they were perfectly happy to take four years ago.....Who is it being the tyrant(s) now?


No, Trump is holding Congress <hostage> , and yes, just like Obama ,Clinton etc

By proxy , we're ALL being held hostage

THAT makes it a matter of principal.......for those that can see a repersentative democracy being abused for political posturing

~S~

All being held hostage? Funny, I don't feel it at all. On the contrary, I like it the way it is.
 
What’s funny is the regressive morons here don’t even know what they want. You all have to wait for your Dem masters to tell you what to be outraged about.
 
He wanted DACA 2 years ago
Thread FAIL. As usual...
 
.The dems are acting like reticent little ******* children, who only oppose what's being offered because the Cheeto is offering it.

got it backwards Odd one, TRump owns this

All being held hostage?

yes

What’s funny is the regressive morons here don’t even know what they want.

we want less immigration , wtf part of that do you NOT get?

tRump wants a symbolic wall to politically posture thwarting immigration , while inviting all the cheap labor he can on in for his fortune 500 wall st pals

one would have to be a FLAMING RETARD to not get this

THAT makes this a hostage situation ,so put down the partisan koolaid, and realize your aZZ , your childrens aZZ, and anyone you know's aZZ is subject to complete ,degredation , devaluation ,and dissolution



~S~
 
That was fast. Pelosi is rejecting Trumps new offer.

Pelosi Statement on Trump Speech

“Unfortunately, initial reports make clear that his proposal is a compilation of several previously rejected initiatives, each of which is unacceptable and in total, do not represent a good faith effort to restore certainty to people’s lives. It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House, and taken together, they are a non-starter. For one thing, this proposal does not include the permanent solution for the Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs and supports.

This is bait for Trump to offers more, and if he does, they'll take it, and he has to go along. All he need to do now is to shut up, and on day 31 of the shutdown start handing layoffs to non essential furloughed federal workers, and prepare order to build the wall under national emergency. I wouldn't mind mass deportations of illegals.
 
That was fast. Pelosi is rejecting Trumps new offer.

Pelosi Statement on Trump Speech

“Unfortunately, initial reports make clear that his proposal is a compilation of several previously rejected initiatives, each of which is unacceptable and in total, do not represent a good faith effort to restore certainty to people’s lives. It is unlikely that any one of these provisions alone would pass the House, and taken together, they are a non-starter. For one thing, this proposal does not include the permanent solution for the Dreamers and TPS recipients that our country needs and supports.

This is bait for Trump to offers more, and if he does, they'll take it, and he has to go along. All he need to do now is to shut up, and on day 31 of the shutdown start handing layoffs to non essential furloughed federal workers, and prepare order to build the wall under national emergency. I wouldn't mind mass deportations of illegals.

Too bad that the DACA stuff is hung up in front of leftist activist Courts.
Based on the unhinged lefty Democrat response, DACA recipients otherwise would have their DACA status deferred and would soon start being deported. At least, it would make room for the caravans we have been absorbing.
 
So what happened today was that President Trump poisoned the Democrat's well. Like I said, he gave them an offer knowing damned well that they'd turn it down.

His next move will be to declare a National Security Priority or National Emergency and issue orders for the military to build the wall. At some point in the immediate future, the government will re-open. The Democrats will still have no DACA deal, and will try to sue in order to prevent the wall from being built. It will then go before the Supreme Court, the Democrats will unsuccessfully try to pass a law blocking the funding, and the President will Veto it. It will either be tied up in the courts through the next election cycle, or the Supreme Court will rule in favor of President Trump, and the wall will be under construction during the election cycle.

Either way, the Democrats will be posturing against border security right through an election year, which doesn't bode well for them.

Another issue that's looming on the horizon is that SNAP benefits might be cut off in February. President Trump sees that as a major bargaining chip, and is giving the Democrats time to come to the table for a real compromise before the possibility of that happening.

People seem to think that the underclass would never abandon their Democrat overlords but if the Democrats are the perceived cause of their loss of government benefits, enough of them might abandon the cause, stay home and not vote, or gain a real awakening of how little the Democrats have really done for them. If we get 1-2% of the hard-core Democrats and a good percentage of the swing voters disgusted with the Democrat's lack of performance, we will be far ahead of where everyone expects us to be.

This speech seemed to have some foreboding of government benefits running out soon. This would be something President Trump could use to beat the hell out of the Democrats because of their hubris which has forced them to reject any deal that doesn't include 100% capitulation. Remember, this is the same President who actually brought a murderous North Korean Communist dictator to the table. If he could accomplish that which no other American President could, getting a handful of stubborn Democrats to negotiate with him should be fairly easy.
 
Yet MORE attempted negotiations by Trump and more non-negotiations by democrats.

Yet democrats say its Trump that isn't willing to negotiate. LOL :abgg2q.jpg:
 
So what happened today was that President Trump poisoned the Democrat's well. Like I said, he gave them an offer knowing damned well that they'd turn it down.

His next move will be to declare a National Security Priority or National Emergency and issue orders for the military to build the wall. At some point in the immediate future, the government will re-open. The Democrats will still have no DACA deal, and will try to sue in order to prevent the wall from being built. It will then go before the Supreme Court, the Democrats will unsuccessfully try to pass a law blocking the funding, and the President will Veto it. It will either be tied up in the courts through the next election cycle, or the Supreme Court will rule in favor of President Trump, and the wall will be under construction during the election cycle.

Either way, the Democrats will be posturing against border security right through an election year, which doesn't bode well for them.

Another issue that's looming on the horizon is that SNAP benefits might be cut off in February. President Trump sees that as a major bargaining chip, and is giving the Democrats time to come to the table for a real compromise before the possibility of that happening.

People seem to think that the underclass would never abandon their Democrat overlords but if the Democrats are the perceived cause of their loss of government benefits, enough of them might abandon the cause, stay home and not vote, or gain a real awakening of how little the Democrats have really done for them. If we get 1-2% of the hard-core Democrats and a good percentage of the swing voters disgusted with the Democrat's lack of performance, we will be far ahead of where everyone expects us to be.

This speech seemed to have some foreboding of government benefits running out soon. This would be something President Trump could use to beat the hell out of the Democrats because of their hubris which has forced them to reject any deal that doesn't include 100% capitulation. Remember, this is the same President who actually brought a murderous North Korean Communist dictator to the table. If he could accomplish that which no other American President could, getting a handful of stubborn Democrats to negotiate with him should be fairly easy.

Trump basically said that he isn't gonna budge on the deal that was originally set on the table. Pelosi has bungled this negotiation for border security. She should have read "The Art of the Deal".

“One of the problems when you become successful is that jealousy and envy inevitably follow. There are people - I categorize them as life’s losers - who get their sense of accomplishment and achievement from trying to stop others. As far as I’m concerned, if they had any real ability they wouldn’t be fighting me, they’d be doing something constructive themselves.”

:D
 
If democrats don't accept this offer they're going to lose the illegals vote. They'll lose hispanics vote for sure. They're walking on very thin ice.

Trump is handling this BEAUTIFULLY.
 
When SNAP gets cutoff, prepare by stocking up on mucho ammo now.

Who didn't take advantage of the availability of cheap guns and ammo during the Obama years?

Too bad if you didn't. :biggrin:
 
Supposedly, Trump will offer some type of a deal on DACA

try selling us all out......

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.

4:40 AM - 11 Jan 2019
I think he knows that the psychos Chucky & Nan won't take the deal, just like the last time he offered this very thing.


I wouldn't bow to the tyrant either....~S~
He's offering them what they were perfectly happy to take four years ago.....Who is it being the tyrant(s) now?


No, Trump is holding Congress <hostage> , and yes, just like Obama ,Clinton etc

By proxy , we're ALL being held hostage

THAT makes it a matter of principal.......for those that can see a repersentative democracy being abused for political posturing

~S~

Once the Dems pass another bill that goes to the Senate and sits there, the ball is back in Trump’s court. Then what?
 
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So what happened today was that President Trump poisoned the Democrat's well. Like I said, he gave them an offer knowing damned well that they'd turn it down.

His next move will be to declare a National Security Priority or National Emergency and issue orders for the military to build the wall.

Remember a few weeks ago when the threat was to close the entire border? He caved on that. You said nothing of course.

When there is no National Security Priority or National Emergency declared, will you be silent then too?
 
try selling us all out......

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.

4:40 AM - 11 Jan 2019
I think he knows that the psychos Chucky & Nan won't take the deal, just like the last time he offered this very thing.


I wouldn't bow to the tyrant either....~S~
He's offering them what they were perfectly happy to take four years ago.....Who is it being the tyrant(s) now?


No, Trump is holding Congress <hostage> , and yes, just like Obama ,Clinton etc

By proxy , we're ALL being held hostage

THAT makes it a matter of principal.......for those that can see a repersentative democracy being abused for political posturing

~S~

Once the Dems pass another bill that goes to the Senate and sits there, the ball is back in Trump’s court. Then what?

Once SNAP funds run out, the ball is in everyone's court.
Are you prepared?
Didn't think so.
 
I think he knows that the psychos Chucky & Nan won't take the deal, just like the last time he offered this very thing.


I wouldn't bow to the tyrant either....~S~
He's offering them what they were perfectly happy to take four years ago.....Who is it being the tyrant(s) now?


No, Trump is holding Congress <hostage> , and yes, just like Obama ,Clinton etc

By proxy , we're ALL being held hostage

THAT makes it a matter of principal.......for those that can see a repersentative democracy being abused for political posturing

~S~

Once the Dems pass another bill that goes to the Senate and sits there, the ball is back in Trump’s court. Then what?

Once SNAP funds run out, the ball is in everyone's court.
Are you prepared?
Didn't think so.

I’m not on SNAP so…whatever.
 
Trump to Support DACA Protections for More Wall Funding
President Trump is planning on Saturday to support protections from deportation for some undocumented immigrants in the U.S. in exchange for $5.7 billion to build the southern border wall, said White House officials familiar with the decision.

Mr. Trump is scheduled to make his announcement at 4 p.m. Aides cautioned that the announcement has already been delayed once by an hour, and that the president may still change his approach.

:eek2:Hmm? Are the DOPers not against this DACA thang?:dunno:

btw: Another MAGA Promise broken I say for the DOPer Voters.

MAGA = MAKE AMNESTY GREAT AGAIN
MAGA = MEXICAN'S AGAIN GET AMNESTY

MAGA = MEXICAN AMNESTY GREAT AGAIN
"Trump campaigned on a promise to crack down on illegal immigration, saying he would “immediately terminate” DACA if elected. But since taking office, he had voiced more sympathy toward the DACA-protected immigrants, often known as “Dreamers.”"Here's What President Trump Has Said About DACA in the Past

Ann's not gonna like this ...
 
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