MAGA crowd. Do these people have enough knowledge or ability to evaluate/assess who should be president, that we can have confidence in their pick?

[SeaMajor7]

Yes, mistakes have been made because understanding of the REAL problem has not occurred and as such, the right tactics have not been used. That is what my OP's are about..........understanding............so that can come up with the right answers. Those answers are NOT "giving up and letting it to continue to happen".

Yet you don't understand why YOU LOST.
Start with THAT, stupid.

 

[Luckyone]

Only complete and total pussies us iggy. Is that what you are?

.

You are entitled to your opinion but then again, having said that your post means that you do like to waste your time and talk to brick walls incessantly. Hey, you are entitled to do what you want with your own time. Just do not criticize those that have different values

 

[Luckyone]

Of course you folks would prefer these folks picking the president, RIGHT??????????????



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BS post

 

[DStar777]

The MAGA crowd gave us a clear manifesto of what needs to be done in the U.S., having chosen Trump for our next president.

The MAGA crowd can't elect the President by themselves. It took Indies and Democrats to get him elected. Ask them why Trump was better than Harris.

 

[westwall]

BS post

Your specialty.

 

[Luckyone]

How could any survive the horror of being ignored by you?

Is there enough therapy in the world?

I am not trying to make a statement. I am being informative, which is what I do in real life. I evaluate and inform for a living. I believe that knowledge of what is happening helps us all cope with life. As such, I inform people of what I am doing. How they react to the information is their business (not mine). I have absolutely no interest in knowing how they react, given that I am now ignoring them. Evidently it seems to be affecting you in some way given that you feel the need to post about it and in so doing, debasing me.

 

[Oddball]

I am not trying to make a statement. I am being informative, which is what I do in real life. I evaluate and inform for a living. I believe that knowledge of what is happening helps us all cope with life. As such, I inform people of what I am doing. How they react to the information is their business (not mine). I have absolutely no interest in knowing how they react, given that I am now ignoring them. Evidently it seems to be affecting you in some way given that you feel the need to post about it and in so doing, debasing me.

No, you're trying to troll and be an insufferable peckerhead.

You've succeed.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I am not trying to make a statement. I am being informative, which is what I do in real life. I evaluate and inform for a living. I believe that knowledge of what is happening helps us all cope with life. As such, I inform people of what I am doing. How they react to the information is their business (not mine). I have absolutely no interest in knowing how they react, given that I am now ignoring them. Evidently it seems to be affecting you in some way given that you feel the need to post about it and in so doing, debasing me.

Cope with WHY YOU LOST instead of spamming this forum with thread after thread of TDS meltdowns.

 

[Luckyone]

You're right, I didn't respond to the OP video topic and went straight to the brief negative connotation towards MAGA supporters.
As for the video, I lack the patience on this evening to watch the entire thing, but the first portion gave me the gist of where you were going on this.
First, the topic of Civil War and his example of a "panel" of liberals and conservatives answering his questions. Neither side represents "all" or even a majority of who makes up either side on this. I believe that most on either side would not consider a Civil War to become a reality, but both sides in his small panel agreed that a Civil War would solve nothing. The bitterness would still linger. I was stationed in Georgia in the 1980's and people there still refer to our Civil War as "The Great Disappointment and they've made it clear they are absolutely NOT fans of blacks. What I interpret their meaning as: "They wish they had won and could still buy and sell humans as if they were no better than livestock."
As to him interviewing MAGA supporters that provide stupid answers, the left is full of them as well. Plenty of videos have shown that. It's always interesting to see an on the street interview where the question put to those on the left as why they voted for Harris, but when pressed as to what she accomplished to earn their vote, they couldn't think of a damn thing, other than being a woman and when how that would change things, they'd say "I don't know," and walk away.
I don't know if he got into religion with them, but our Constitution has no litmus test for religion in presidential elections. Every president we've had has been of some religion, regardless of party affiliation and frankly I'd prefer that whoever leads this nation have some following of religious decency, as Atheists like Stalin and Mao Zedong, were butchers, killing millions and for the record, I'm an Atheist. I just believe that some things like Buddhism and at least the Abrahamic 10 Commandments aren't bad things to go by.

thanks for the detailed and informative response. This is what I believe a debate should be and you are among the few that have addressed the OP in a debate format and not on a "debase the messenger" format.

Here is a statistic that may surprise you:

Nearly Half of Americans Think US Could See Another Civil War​

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/a-nation-divided/
As far as religion being a part of leading, I do agree with that but then it should only be as a moral and ethical support and not as an ideological support such as seen in countries like Iran and with groups like Hamas. In those cases, religion drives them totally in all their decisions. We seem to be heading in that direction with Trump and the cult mentality that is occurring.

I do have to say that Trump has also driven the opposite side (the Democrats) to start addressing it religiously by accusing Trump of being Satan. The bottom line is that the problem is not religious but mental. Trump is a narcissist. Unfortunately that narcissism has brought about a religious approach by both sides, with the fact that the right has been much more successful in addressing it religiously

 

[Luckyone]

The MAGA crowd can't elect the President by themselves. It took Indies and Democrats to get him elected. Ask them why Trump was better than Harris.

He was a better ideologist..........much like the Ayatollah's in Iran have been through the ages.

 

[The Duke]

Yes, mistakes have been made because understanding of the REAL problem has not occurred and as such, the right tactics have not been used. That is what my OP's are about..........understanding............so that can come up with the right answers. Those answers are NOT "giving up and letting it to continue to happen".

Lemme tell you and Mac something, Percival: You are not going to be able to sophist your way out of the next 12 years.

STFU, nobody wants to hear your hot garbage. Fuck off with that, k? TIA.

 

[DonGlock26]

The MAGA crowd gave us a clear manifesto of what needs to be done in the U.S., having chosen Trump for our next president.

The question comes up that is being asked is "do these MAGA people have enough brains, knowledge, evaluating/assessing capabilities that would make us feel comfortable that they chose wisely?

Here is one example showing some of the MAGA crowd



Having put that video up, it can be said by some that the video does not truly represent the MAGA crowd or only represents a small "cherry picked" portion of the MAGA people.

In doing some additional research, I did find an article that goes in a totally different direction but it does paint a much more informative picture of one of the things that is truly happening, and not only to the Trump supporters but to the Trump detractors. That is the idea that Trump is NOT A PERSON!

"not a person"? c'mon, Trump is a person and there is no doubt about it, right?

Well the article goes into the people's perception that Trump is God (Trumper's view) or that Trump is the Devil (anti-trumpers view). This is certainly crazy and against knowledge and beliefs (there is no God and no Satan) that are centered in reality...........but then again, it certainly fits in perfectly into what most people have been saying about Trump............he is God............he is Satan!

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Here is the article that talks about this:

Trumpism. In the minds of his most ardent supporters, the ex-president is both more and less than a person​

Americans today see two contradictory futures looming in the middle distance: In one scenario, Donald Trump is convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison. In the second, he returns to the presidency in 2025. How is it possible that a twice-impeached former president facing 91 criminal counts can now be elected to return to the Oval Office? Why do his supporters not recoil when Trump promises to unleash an authoritarian regime as president and to assume the role of dictator on Day One? What explains his enduring appeal?

It is worth noting that Murray’s (Harvard Psychologist) characterization of Satan bears an uncanny resemblance to the psychological portrait of Trump painted by many psychologists today. A malignant narcissism rages at the core of Satan’s personality. Cast out of heaven for his overmastering pride, Satan wants to be God, resents the fact that he is not God and insists that his supreme worth entitles him to privileges that nobody else should enjoy while undergirding his reign as sovereign of the mortal world below.

On the other side, Trump has often compared himself to a superhero. He has famously described himself as a “stable genius” who has never made a mistake. He is not lying when he makes these outrageous claims, for Trump truly believes them to be true, just as he believes he won the 2020 election. Trump is like a golden god in his mind and in the minds of many of his supporters: a superhero, able to do things that no other human can do; a warrior who fights furiously to win every battle, completely immersed in the moment. His very identity is the supremely heroic role he plays on TV and in real life. The role is charismatic and mesmerizing

After reading this article and having experienced everything said (great and horrible) about Trump, this ("not a person") view, seems to be reality we are actually experiencing.

Having said all of the above, what does this say about us (All Americans) that believe in the unbelievable?

One tangible thing that is very worrisome (when all is considered) is that talking about all Americans believing the unbelievable is bad enough, but when you consider that Trump himself (the elected president) believes he is God (or at least believes he was "chosen by God") comes into the equation, this is really scary scenario.

What do you think about this God or Satan idea that is being seen now?

Embrace the democracy.

 

[Luckyone]

That's rich coming from the crowd that nominated a senile, old fool and then decided to throw him overboard in favor of a blithering idiot when the rest of the country figured it out.

I agree with you on the fact that our entire country is becoming mentally sick and becoming led by ideology, much like the Ayatollah's in Iran. We are starting to believe in people being Gods and Devils (the best and the worst) and mental evaluation of data, statistics and fact disappearing.

 

[Contumacious]

Data, statistics and facts mean nothing.

Figures don't lie , but Liars do figure !!!

How to Lie with Statistics​

By Darrell Huff​

How to Lie with Statistics

How to Lie with Statistics

medium.com

 

[Contumacious]

I agree with you on the fact that our entire country is becoming mentally sick and becoming led by ideology, much like the Ayatollah's in Iran. We are starting to believe in people being Gods and Devils (the best and the worst) and mental evaluation of data, statistics and fact disappearing.

That is rich coming from someone who uses schizophasia or Orwellian Double speak to communicate.

 

[Luckyone]

The OP doesn’t have enough knowledge or ability to evaluate/assess the difference between shit and shinola.

​

Prove it! Words are cheap

 

[martybegan]

The MAGA crowd gave us a clear manifesto of what needs to be done in the U.S., having chosen Trump for our next president.

The question comes up that is being asked is "do these MAGA people have enough brains, knowledge, evaluating/assessing capabilities that would make us feel comfortable that they chose wisely?

Here is one example showing some of the MAGA crowd



Having put that video up, it can be said by some that the video does not truly represent the MAGA crowd or only represents a small "cherry picked" portion of the MAGA people.

In doing some additional research, I did find an article that goes in a totally different direction but it does paint a much more informative picture of one of the things that is truly happening, and not only to the Trump supporters but to the Trump detractors. That is the idea that Trump is NOT A PERSON!

"not a person"? c'mon, Trump is a person and there is no doubt about it, right?

Well the article goes into the people's perception that Trump is God (Trumper's view) or that Trump is the Devil (anti-trumpers view). This is certainly crazy and against knowledge and beliefs (there is no God and no Satan) that are centered in reality...........but then again, it certainly fits in perfectly into what most people have been saying about Trump............he is God............he is Satan!

View attachment 1055362

Here is the article that talks about this:

Trumpism. In the minds of his most ardent supporters, the ex-president is both more and less than a person​

Americans today see two contradictory futures looming in the middle distance: In one scenario, Donald Trump is convicted of serious crimes and sent to prison. In the second, he returns to the presidency in 2025. How is it possible that a twice-impeached former president facing 91 criminal counts can now be elected to return to the Oval Office? Why do his supporters not recoil when Trump promises to unleash an authoritarian regime as president and to assume the role of dictator on Day One? What explains his enduring appeal?

It is worth noting that Murray’s (Harvard Psychologist) characterization of Satan bears an uncanny resemblance to the psychological portrait of Trump painted by many psychologists today. A malignant narcissism rages at the core of Satan’s personality. Cast out of heaven for his overmastering pride, Satan wants to be God, resents the fact that he is not God and insists that his supreme worth entitles him to privileges that nobody else should enjoy while undergirding his reign as sovereign of the mortal world below.

On the other side, Trump has often compared himself to a superhero. He has famously described himself as a “stable genius” who has never made a mistake. He is not lying when he makes these outrageous claims, for Trump truly believes them to be true, just as he believes he won the 2020 election. Trump is like a golden god in his mind and in the minds of many of his supporters: a superhero, able to do things that no other human can do; a warrior who fights furiously to win every battle, completely immersed in the moment. His very identity is the supremely heroic role he plays on TV and in real life. The role is charismatic and mesmerizing

After reading this article and having experienced everything said (great and horrible) about Trump, this ("not a person") view, seems to be reality we are actually experiencing.

Having said all of the above, what does this say about us (All Americans) that believe in the unbelievable?

One tangible thing that is very worrisome (when all is considered) is that talking about all Americans believing the unbelievable is bad enough, but when you consider that Trump himself (the elected president) believes he is God (or at least believes he was "chosen by God") comes into the equation, this is really scary scenario.

What do you think about this God or Satan idea that is being seen now?

 

[Luckyone]

You think you do?

If nothing else, I use data, statistics and facts to make my decisions. Can I guarantee that I am right? Absolutely NOT but at least the probabilities of my being right are much greater than someone that believes their leader is God (or chosen by God) and that the opposition is Satan (or just simply the worst possible).

I have been doing evaluations publicly and formally for 47 years and my "track record" has been "more often right than wrong".

What are your qualifications and track record? in order for us to even begin to think that your evaluation might be correct!

 

[Contumacious]

If nothing else, I use data, statistics and facts to make my decisions

UNLucky one , did not and could not , claim that he knows the difference between propaganda, allegations and FACTS

 

[Billiejeens]

NO! We can't be governed by the dumbest and most corrupt among us!

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Are you running?