Maduro Orders Seizure of Closed Venezuela Factories, Jailing of Owners

[bripat9643]

The Venezuelan government doubles down on stupid as the country swirls ever faster down the socialist toilet bowl:

Maduro in crackdown under Venezuela emergency decree​

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on Saturday ordered authorities to seize factories that have stopped production and jail their owners, a day after declaring a state of emergency to combat the country's economic crisis. "We must take all measures to recover productive capacity, which is being paralyzed by the bourgeoisie," he told a rally in Caracas. "Anyone who wants to halt (production) to sabotage the country should get out, and those who do must be handcuffed and sent to the PGV (Venezuelan General Penitentiary)," he said.​

 

[P F Tinmore]

The shortages in Venezuela are manufactured by the elites as an excuse to overthrow the government.

I read someplace about a year ago that they found a warehouse full of toilet paper but the stores had none.

 

[bripat9643]

The shortages in Venezuela are manufactured by the elites as an excuse to overthrow the government.

I read someplace about a year ago that they found a warehouse full of toilet paper but the stores had none.

ROFL! That's exactly the kind of conspiracy theory some Stalinist flack for the government might give the press. Truly pathetic and despicable.

I doubt your story is true, but even if it is, why should a private company sell its product below cost? However, it sounds just like another example of a Stalinist making excuses for his incompetent bosses.

You're a special kind of douche bag who belongs in Venezuela, not in a free country.

 

[elektra]

If I can quote the OP's source, which leaves out one fact, Venezuela's Electricity is 60% Renewable energy!

Venezuela is suffering a power shortage because it relies on Renewable Energy!

Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves, but is mired in a crippling recession exacerbated by an electricity crisis that has forced the government to decree daily power cuts across most of the country, close schools on Fridays and reduce the workweek to two days for government employees.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The shortages in Venezuela are manufactured by the elites as an excuse to overthrow the government.

I read someplace about a year ago that they found a warehouse full of toilet paper but the stores had none.

ROFL! That's exactly the kind of conspiracy theory some Stalinist flack for the government might give the press. Truly pathetic and despicable.

I doubt your story is true, but even if it is, why should a private company sell its product below cost? However, it sounds just like another example of a Stalinist making excuses for his incompetent bosses.

You're a special kind of douche bag who belongs in Venezuela, not in a free country.

Are you kidding? The oligarchs, with the help of the US, have been trying to take down that government from day one.

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, Chavez, The Coup

 

[georgephillip]

The shortages in Venezuela are manufactured by the elites as an excuse to overthrow the government.

I read someplace about a year ago that they found a warehouse full of toilet paper but the stores had none.

"US relations with Venezuela illustrate the specific mechanisms with which an imperial power seeks to sustain client states and overthrow independent nationalist governments. By examining US strategic goals and its tactical measures, we can set forth several propositions about (1) the nature and instruments of imperial politics, (2) the shifting context and contingencies influencing the successes and failures of specific policies, and (3) the importance of regional and global political alignments and priorities.1"
US-Venezuela Relations: A Case Study of Imperialism and Anti-Imperialism | Dissident Voice
Venezuela and Brazil have been targeted for the same treatment Chile received forty years ago:
"Revelations that President Richard Nixon had ordered the CIA to 'make the economy scream' in Chile to 'prevent Allende from coming to power or to unseat him,' prompted a major scandal in the mid-1970s, and a major investigation by the U.S. Senate."
Chile and the United States: Declassified Documents Relating to the Military Coup, September 11, 1973

 

[P F Tinmore]

Same old shit, different platter.

 

[georgephillip]

Same old shit, different platter.

Haiti is a prime example of how the "magic of compound interest" grows debt faster than even he most productive economy can pay them off:

"Driven by the mathematics of compound interest – savings lent out to grow exponentially – the overgrowth of debt is at the root of today’s economic crisis. Creditors make money by leaving their savings to accrue interest, doubling and redoubling their claims on the economy. This dynamic draws more and more control over labor, land, industry and tax revenue into the hands of creditors, concentrating property ownership and government in their hands. The way societies have coped with this deepening indebtedness should be the starting point of financial theorizing."
http://store.counterpunch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Killing-The-Host_PDF_V7.pdf (p. 28)

This phenomena of exponentially compounding debts threatening the stability of society has been going on since the Sumerians over 5000 years ago.

The only answer is Jubilee

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The shortages in Venezuela are manufactured by the elites as an excuse to overthrow the government.

I read someplace about a year ago that they found a warehouse full of toilet paper but the stores had none.

Yes well that is exactly the kind of thing they would expect stupid people to believe

 

[tinydancer]

Oh boy. Just to put it out there my relationship with South America in the here and now involves a little dog called Paco.

I'm going to put this out there right front and center and then a mega business that his owner is.

SA is so intricate. I'm trying to make a joke on the bosses and a chichi. I have no idea why we treat these peoples as one monolithic culture.

I do food. When I cook Chilean I do not cook Brazillian. When I cook Antiquan I do not cook Jamaican.

I want everyone left right and center please stop treating people as they are such small pieces in time. What the hell is wrong with all of you?

 

[tinydancer]

The shortages in Venezuela are manufactured by the elites as an excuse to overthrow the government.

I read someplace about a year ago that they found a warehouse full of toilet paper but the stores had none.

ROFL! That's exactly the kind of conspiracy theory some Stalinist flack for the government might give the press. Truly pathetic and despicable.

I doubt your story is true, but even if it is, why should a private company sell its product below cost? However, it sounds just like another example of a Stalinist making excuses for his incompetent bosses.

You're a special kind of douche bag who belongs in Venezuela, not in a free country.

Are you kidding? The oligarchs, with the help of the US, have been trying to take down that government from day one.

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, Chavez, The Coup

Want to know the failure?

He got suckered in by the US media. He let them make him a star.

 

[georgephillip]

"The Turning Point: Chavez Defies the ‘war on Terror’: 2000-2001
US-Venezuela Relations: A Case Study of Imperialism and Anti-Imperialism | Dissident Voice
"The first decade of the new millennium was a tumultuous period which played a major role in defining US-Venezuelan relations. Several inter-related events polarized the hemisphere, weakened Washington’s influence, undermined collaborator-client regimes and led to a major confrontation with Venezuela."

 

[waltky]

Recall petition invalidated...

Venezuela recall: Opposition leaders' signatures voided
Sat, 11 Jun 2016 - Venezuela's opposition leaders say their signatures on a petition for a referendum to oust President Nicolas Maduro have been invalidated.

Former presidential candidate Henrique Capriles is among those who say their signatures have been ruled out for "failing to meet the requirements". The Speaker of the National Assembly, Henry Ramos Allup, described the move as "shameful" and "a provocation". The decision was announced on Friday by the National Electoral Council (CNE). The electoral body's president, Tibisay Lucena, said more than 600,000 signatures had been invalidated. The other voters who signed the petition - more than 1.3 million people - will need to turn up at regional electoral offices to confirm their identity later this month. Voters will have five days from 20 June to have their signatures checked.

'Dead voters and children'

The opposition handed over the petition on 2 May. It said it had gathered the signatures of 1.85 million voters backing a recall referendum, many more than the 197,000 needed at this initial stage. The CNE said on Friday there were 1.97 million signatures on the list. Mr Maduro's government said there was widespread fraud in the process. It said the names of thousands of dead voters and children were on the petition. More than 10,000 dead voters and more than 3,000 people under the voting age signed the forms, said Ms Lucena. Mr Capriles said the electoral authorities were working alongside the government in order to derail the recall referendum process.

Henrique Capriles at a protest in Caracas​

But he urged voters to get ready to comply with the CNE demand and go to government offices to have their identities checked later this month. Another high-profile opposition activist, Lilian Tintori, also tweeted that her signature had been invalidated by the electoral body. Ms Tintori is the wife of jailed opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez, sentenced last year for allegedly inciting violence in anti-government protests. Ms Lucena warned that the process would be immediately suspended until order was restored if there was "any act of violence, trouble or aggression".

Venezuela is in a serious economic crisis, which the opposition blames on mistaken left-wing policies of Mr Maduro and his predecessor, the late Hugo Chavez. The inflation rate is one of the highest in the world and there are long queues outside shops. Mr Maduro says the shortage of goods is the result of an economic war waged by the country's elite against his government. He defeated Mr Capriles in a tight election three years ago and was elected for a six-year term.

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[Contumacious]

The Venezuelan government doubles down on stupid as the country swirls ever faster down the socialist toilet bowl:

Maduro in crackdown under Venezuela emergency decree​

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on Saturday ordered authorities to seize factories that have stopped production and jail their owners, a day after declaring a state of emergency to combat the country's economic crisis. "We must take all measures to recover productive capacity, which is being paralyzed by the bourgeoisie," he told a rally in Caracas. "Anyone who wants to halt (production) to sabotage the country should get out, and those who do must be handcuffed and sent to the PGV (Venezuelan General Penitentiary)," he said.​

Nicolas Maduro spanish for Bernard Sanders

 

[Rozman]

I'm surprised the Libs here didn't offer a blame Bush opinion.

 

[bripat9643]

I'm surprised the Libs here didn't offer a blame Bush opinion.

You will notice they claim that what Maduro is doing isn't socialism.

 

[georgephillip]

"The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the 'dictatorial regime'.

"Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention.

"What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?"

What's happening in Venezuela as more to do with using black marker dollars to make the economy scream.

Venezuela – A Last Warning

"For ten years, the revolution was able to grant widespread reforms and massively improve the living standards of the masses.

"This was accompanied by a process of political radicalisation in which the late president Chávez and the revolutionary masses pushed each other forward.

"Socialism was declared as the aim of the Bolivarian revolution, there were wide ranging experiences of workers’ control, factories were occupied and expropriated, companies were re-nationalised.

"Millions became active at all levels in an attempt to take their future into their own hands.

"The motor force of the revolution and its main source of strength which allowed it to thwart all the attempts of the oligarchy and imperialism were the revolutionary masses, active, politically aware and engaged at all levels."

 

[LoneLaugher]

There seems to be some weird disease afflicting USMB conservatives. Many of them are obsessed with news about Venezuela. Especially bad news.

Someone must have told them that posting horrible stories about how an ineffective despot in Venezuela is fucking up causes liberals to become embarrassed and want to start supporting nutbag conservative economic policies.

It doesn't.

There are lots of kinds of economic systems and lots of kinds of government systems. Venezuela doesn't represent anyone's ideal when it comes to either.

Ya dumb shit.

 

[bripat9643]

"The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the 'dictatorial regime'.

"Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention.

"What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?"

What's happening in Venezuela as more to do with using black marker dollars to make the economy scream.

Venezuela – A Last Warning

"For ten years, the revolution was able to grant widespread reforms and massively improve the living standards of the masses.

"This was accompanied by a process of political radicalisation in which the late president Chávez and the revolutionary masses pushed each other forward.

"Socialism was declared as the aim of the Bolivarian revolution, there were wide ranging experiences of workers’ control, factories were occupied and expropriated, companies were re-nationalised.

"Millions became active at all levels in an attempt to take their future into their own hands.

"The motor force of the revolution and its main source of strength which allowed it to thwart all the attempts of the oligarchy and imperialism were the revolutionary masses, active, politically aware and engaged at all levels."

What's your point? How has socialism benefited the people of Venezuela?

 

[bripat9643]

There seems to be some weird disease afflicting USMB conservatives. Many of them are obsessed with news about Venezuela. Especially bad news.

Someone must have told them that posting horrible stories about how an ineffective despot in Venezuela is fucking up causes liberals to become embarrassed and want to start supporting nutbag conservative economic policies.

It doesn't.

There are lots of kinds of economic systems and lots of kinds of government systems. Venezuela doesn't represent anyone's ideal when it comes to either.

Ya dumb shit.

Yes, we know. The Socialist ideal is a triangle with four corners. Unfortunately, every time they try to draw one it ends up having three corners. Venezuela is the latest three sided triangle.