Luigi Mangione has some State level charges dropped.

[martybegan]

Luigi Mangione's terrorism charges thrown out​

Luigi Mangione (R) appears with his lawyer Marc Agnifilo in court for a hearing on his state murder charges in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan Supreme Court on September 16, 2025 in New York City.

The 27-year-old faces both state and federal charges in the killing of Thompson, a husband and father of two, last December outside a Manhattan hotel. The 11 state charges included murder and terrorism, and the federal ones carry the possibility of the death penalty.

His lawyers have been fighting to get the state charges thrown out entirely, arguing the parallel cases amount to double jeopardy. In his written decision Tuesday, Judge Gregory Carro ruled against their request.

The defense had also asked for the two terrorism charges to be dropped, arguing they don't apply. Prosecutors, however, alleged Mangione's intent was to "violently broadcast a social and political message to the public at large."

The judge ruled to dismiss both terrorism charges -- murder in the first degree in furtherance of an act of terrorism and murder in the second degree as a crime of terrorism -- writing they were "legally insufficient."

"There was no evidence presented of a desire to terrorize the public, inspire widespread fear, engage in a broader campaign of violence, or to conspire with organized terrorist groups," Carro wrote. "Here, the crime - the heinous, but targeted and discrete killing of one person -- is very different from the examples of terrorism set forth in the statute."

See the bolded part above.

 

[citygator]

There was no death sentence. That shows the bias of the article in question.

The facts are the facts. Sugar coat them however you want. That mom is dead because she couldnt afford to pay $1,000 for heart medicine that cost $17.33 to produce.

 

[struth]

I'd just write a check but desperate people can say desperate things. None of those people murdered anyone. They are just people broken by the system trying to be controversial to get attention. Much like half your posts.

The person we are talking about, the topic of this thread, did in fact murder someone.

Try again keep up

 

[Rambunctious]

Yea, if I don't have the money for the medicine, you think I have money for a lawyer to fight them?

I did appeal the decision, and they still refused. My doctor appealed it, they went through numerous steps, they STILL REFUSED IT.

**** UHC. I hope that CEO is ******* rotting nicely.

Why don't you have the money?... do you have a smartphone?.... do you have Netflix?.... do you have a computer?... do you have internet service?... do you buy beer or wine?... prioritize.... you must have funds enough for your health coverage or you would be on medicaid...
I think you are just lazy and think other people should cover you... get a job with health insurance get a second job... stop wasting your money on things you don't need... and buy your medicine... there are programs that make prescription costs lower so do some homework and stop whining to us...
Its no one else's fault you didn't plan better... and it certainly is not the UHC's dead CEO's fault things are so expensive... its more Obama's fault than his... no wonder Pelosi said we need to pass the bill to see what's in it...

 

[airplanemechanic]

Why don't you have the money?... do you have a smartphone?.... do you have Netflix?.... do you have a computer?... do you have internet service?... do you buy beer or wine?... prioritize.... you must have funds enough for your health coverage or you would be on medicaid...
I think you are just lazy and think other people should cover you... get a job with health insurance get a second job... stop wasting your money on things you don't need... and buy your medicine... there are programs that make prescription costs lower so do some homework and stop whining to us...
Its no one else's fault you didn't plan better... and it certainly is not the UHC's dead CEO's fault things are so expensive... its more Obama's fault than his... no wonder Pelosi said we need to pass the bill to see what's in it...

I do not subscribe to anything. I have no TV, I have basic internet for the truck. I am not allowed to get a 2nd job if I'm a truck driver. Why don't I have thousands and thousands for drugs? I don't know BECAUSE I HAVE A ******* LIFE WITH LIFE EXPENSES? Why do I need to pay for this ******* medicine? WHAT THE **** AM I PAYING PREMIUMS FOR? Can you ******* answer that, dipshit?

How do you think I'm lazy? I work 70 hours a ******* week, living a truck 24/7, I'm home 2 days a month, pay my premiums every week on time, in full, and it's my fault the little fat bastard refused to pay for drugs they said they would be for? I don't QUALIFY for any plans that make shit cheaper, because I have a full time ******* job.

**** you and **** them. I work a ******* hell of a lot harder than your ass does so **** off. I hope the CEO is rotting nicely.

 

[Dante]

See the bolded part above.

You totally misread the initial comment and have taken it into cuckoo-land

people can always go back, following the links

 

[citygator]

The person we are talking about, the topic of this thread, did in fact murder someone.

Try again keep up

Sometimes you guys just open the door so I can slam it in your face. Here is the OP genius. Try to keep up with the very first sentence he typed. That is the entire thread purpose. No wonder you are so easily dazzled by Trump's bullshit... you cant remember a post from 50 minutes ago.

 

[martybegan]

The facts are the facts. Sugar coat them however you want. That mom is dead because she couldnt afford to pay $1,000 for heart medicine that cost $17.33 to produce.

And you forget to add all the research costs that went into being able to produce it for $17.33, which is probably just some raw material costs and doesn't count the actual production, testing, quality control, packaging and shipping costs.

I know the game you guys play.

 

[martybegan]

Sometimes you guys just open the door so I can slam it in your face. Here is the OP genius. Try to keep up with the very first sentence he typed. That is the entire thread purpose. No wonder you are so easily dazzled by Trump's bullshit... you cant remember a post from 50 minutes ago.

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The main part, not the entire purpose. I referenced the other issue 2nd.

try to not be a dime store hack.

 

[Rambunctious]

Two Kooks in a pod

assassination culture?

and Mangione did not murder the guy for reasons the crazed Lady Sassy claims. It was a personal thing. Not about Insurance Companies, but what one company did to him personally

What?.... murder is okay?... its okay with you he shot the man in the back?... there was a time in America that if you shot someone in the back they gave you a ten min trial and hung you before sunset... because the act is so disgusting and cowardly...

 

[martybegan]

You totally misread the initial comment and have taken it into cuckoo-land

people can always go back, following the links

Don't care dainty.

the issue of two sovereign charges vs. double jeopardy has been ruled on countless times before.

 

[Dante]

What?.... murder is okay?... its okay with you he shot the man in the back?... there was a time in America that if you shot someone in the back they gave you a ten min trial and hung you before sunset... because the act is so disgusting and cowardly...

Nope. Murder is not okay

get some rest

 

[Dante]

Don't care dainty.

the issue of two sovereign charges vs. double jeopardy has been ruled on countless times before.

Who are you consulting with, Liability?

here you are moving some sort of a goal post

the original comment seems irrelevant to you know, especially in the context given

 

[citygator]

And you forget to add all the research costs that went into being able to produce it for $17.33, which is probably just some raw material costs and doesn't count the actual production, testing, quality control, packaging and shipping costs.

I know the game you guys play.

**** it. Let her die. Good post. 27 year old broke moms deserve what they get. If she werent lazy and got rich she'd be fine.

Did I do that right?

 

[struth]

Sometimes you guys just open the door so I can slam it in your face. Here is the OP genius. Try to keep up with the very first sentence he typed. That is the entire thread purpose. No wonder you are so easily dazzled by Trump's bullshit... you cant remember a post from 50 minutes ago.

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Not sure what you are throwing in my face....it is weird that this murderer has groupies....not sure your point.

People defending or promoting the killer, like yourself, are scum.

 

[martybegan]

Who are you consulting with, Liability?

here you are moving some sort of a goal post

the original comment seems irrelevant to you know, especially in the context given

Your entire list of responses in this thread is just Dainty being Dainty, squabbling over chickenshit and ignoring the actual topic at hand.

How long before you get bored here and move back to another message board where you get your ass kicked repeatedly?

 

[Rambunctious]

I do not subscribe to anything. I have no TV, I have basic internet for the truck. I am not allowed to get a 2nd job if I'm a truck driver.

How do you think I'm lazy? I work 70 hours a ******* week, living a truck 24/7, pay my premiums every week on time, in full, and it's my fault the little fat bastard refused to pay for drugs they said they would be for?

**** you and **** them. I work a ******* hell of a lot harder than your ass does so **** off.

Get a better job... don't you you work for a shipping company... why don't you have insurance from the company?... I think you are full of it... I have friends who drive trucks... you just want what you want and want others to cover what you must have... no way... its your life and your health....

 

[airplanemechanic]

Get a better job... don't you you work for a shipping company... why don't you have insurance from the company?... I think you are full of it... I have friends who drive trucks... you just want what you want and want others to cover what you must have... no way... its your life your and your health....

I DO HAVE INSURANCE FROM THE COMPANY FUCKFACE THEY USE UHC.

You think I'm full of it? Ask a truck driver how many hours a week he works. OTR is 70 hours.

Summary of Hours of Service Regulations | FMCSA

The following table summarizes the HOS regulations for property-carrying and passenger-carrying drivers.

www.fmcsa.dot.gov

I attached a screen shot of my ELD. The "cycle" is for 70 hours. I have 5 hours left. I've worked 65 hours this week. Now understand, "weeks" don't run Sunday to Saturday. They start whenever you start driving. It just means the previous 7 days.

 

[martybegan]

**** it. Let her die. Good post. 27 year old broke moms deserve what they get. If she werent lazy and got rich she'd be fine.

Did I do that right?

No, you added your own pathetic hyperbole to my response, like the little ***** you are.

I'm saying your article doesn't give the whole story.

 

[citygator]

Not sure what you are throwing in my face....it is weird that this murderer has groupies....not sure your point.

People defending or promoting the killer, like yourself, are scum.

At least you recognized the purpose of the thread now. Let me know if I can teach you anything else. I stated above I dont approve of it but I get it. People are really broken by the state of healthcare.