Lol...another lefty myth busted

[Rigby5]

So, why are all the Trumptard sissies afraid of the covid vaccine?

People do not like these fake mRNA injections because they are not vaccines.
They do not train the immune system to recognized and attack viruses, but just a single spike protein.
And that is crazy dangerous because the same spike protein is used by our own exosomes.
And they are discovering that this so confuses the immune system to much it is losing its ability to fight anything.

 

[Rigby5]

No, your so called 'rights' are being destroyed.
My rights don't end, where yours begins.

Just like smoking and wearing seatbelts.
You think you can show up for work drunk or high because it only affects you?

It has been well shown by now that these mRNA injections are not preventing infection or spread,
At best, they are slightly reducing symptoms.

 

[Smokin' OP]

No, a private company can not require anything that is not necessary for the job, can not discriminate, and can not force something that is harmful like these mRNA injections.
If the employer had the right to make any rules of employment they wanted, the there would be no successful sexual harassment cases,

Yes, they can.
They can send your ass home, if you have the flu, so you don't spread it, you can do your job with the flu.
The only people claiming the covid vaccine is harmful are RWNJ's, and they aren't in OSHA or the CDC.................................ANYMORE.
And you have a choice, get vaccinated or get tested once a week.

 

[Rigby5]

No they haven't. You don't know wtf you are peddling.

Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

Using the Drug ivermectin to treat COVID-19 can be dangerous and even lethal. The FDA has not approved the drug for that purpose.

www.fda.gov

Fake article.
Here is a real one, from the American Journal of Therapeutics.

{...

Therapeutic Advances:​

Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for “need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for “improvement” and “deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty.

Conclusions:​

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
...}

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines

Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Smokin' OP]

People do not like these fake mRNA injections because they are not vaccines.
They do not train the immune system to recognized and attack viruses, but just a single spike protein.
And that is crazy dangerous because the same spike protein is used by our own exosomes.
And they are discovering that this so confuses the immune system to much it is losing its ability to fight anything.

You don't know much about vaccines.
They are cures for viruses/diseases.

'They do not train the immune system to recognized and attack viruses, but just a single spike protein'.
Sure they do, the results when they don't, are trips to the hospital, the ventilator or death.

'And they are discovering that this so confuses the immune system to much it is losing its ability to fight anything'.

Really?
So why are most of the people in hospitals unvaccinated, if the vaccine lost its ability to fight anything?

Unvaccinated people now account for nearly all COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths in the United States, federal government figures show.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes, they can.
They can send your ass home, if you have the flu, so you don't spread it, you can do your job with the flu.
The only people claiming the covid vaccine is harmful are RWNJ's, and they aren't in OSHA or the CDC.................................ANYMORE.
And you have a choice, get vaccinated or get tested once a week.

So then you are agreeing with me, that they can't demand or require anything that can't be justified in terms of the rights of others.

Absolutely EVERYONE is admitting these mRNA injections are incredibly harmful.
Not only have 11k died after vaccination, but the spike proteins migrate and your immune system causes blood clots when it attacks them,

 

[Rigby5]

You don't know much about vaccines.
They are cures for viruses/diseases.

'They do not train the immune system to recognized and attack viruses, but just a single spike protein'.
Sure they do, the results when they don't, are trips to the hospital, the ventilator or death.

'And they are discovering that this so confuses the immune system to much it is losing its ability to fight anything'.

Really?
So why are most of the people in hospitals unvaccinated, if the vaccine lost its ability to fight anything?

Unvaccinated people now account for nearly all COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths in the United States, federal government figures show.

That is ridiculous.
Vaccines cure nothing at all.
What vaccines do is try to prepare your immune system with dead viruses, so that later when it encounters real life viruses, it won't waste time on cure attempts that won't work.
But these mRNA injections do not contain dead viruses, but only a spike protein, so that is all it can get the immune system to recognize.
The point is these mRNA injections are causing vast increases in all other illnesses the immune system used to handle,

And no, in places like Israel where just about every one is vaccinated, all those hospitalized or dying from covid have been vaccinated,
The US is just lying about the actual figures.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Fake article.
Here is a real one, from the American Journal of Therapeutics.

{...

Therapeutic Advances:​

Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%). Secondary outcomes provided less certain evidence. Low-certainty evidence suggested that there may be no benefit with ivermectin for “need for mechanical ventilation,” whereas effect estimates for “improvement” and “deterioration” clearly favored ivermectin use. Severe adverse events were rare among treatment trials and evidence of no difference was assessed as low certainty. Evidence on other secondary outcomes was very low certainty.

Conclusions:​

Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
...}

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines

Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials.We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in reducing ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sure, from your link.

We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.

Wow, 24 trials and 3400 participants from 'databases'?

 

[Rigby5]

{...
JULY 16, 2021

More vaccinated than unvaccinated Britons are now dying from the coronavirus​

by Rob Reddick, The Conversation

Coronavirus vaccines lessen the chance of you getting COVID-19 and massively reduce the risk of developing serious illness and being hospitalized. Yet at the same time, most COVID-19 deaths in England are now currently among the vaccinated. Is this a cause for alarm?

Put simply, no, says Kit Yates, senior lecturer in mathematical biology at the University of Bath. No vaccines are 100% protective, so cases, hospitalisations and deaths are still to be somewhat expected among those who've been jabbed—and especially in those who are older.

This is because the risk of dying from COVID-19 increases so steeply with age that even being vaccinated doesn't lower the risk for older people down to levels that some younger people experience. Due to their age, a vaccinated 70-year-old is still at greater risk from COVID-19 than an unvaccinated 35-year-old. Given this, it isn't surprising that more vaccinated people are dying of COVID-19 than unvaccinated people.

What is alarming is that cases are currently spiking disproportionately in younger people in the UK, with this no doubt being partly due to vaccine coverage in younger age groups being lower. Vaccine uptake in younger people has slowed. However, one strategy to boost young people's willingness to take a vaccine could be to get them more involved in their local community, research suggests.

When people feel a sense of belonging to a group, this can boost healthy behaviors, particularly if they grow to feel an obligation to that group, writes Juliet Wakefield, senior lecturer in social psychology at Nottingham Trent University. This can include taking a COVID-19 vaccine. A new study shows that people who felt a stronger connection to their local community, and so felt a greater obligation to protect other community members, were more willing to get vaccinated. Initiatives that build bonds between people and their community—such as volunteering—therefore could end up raising vaccine uptake.

Another driver of uptake might be vaccine passports. Proof of COVID-19 vaccination might be needed for all sorts of activities in the future, from international travel to attending public events. Many people aren't keen on this, given that previously such activities were much less restricted, but like them or loathe them, these passports are fair, argues Simon Kolstoe, university ethics advisor at the University of Portsmouth. Providing, of course, that everyone has access to a vaccine.

In the UK, this isn't a problem. While the majority of the world's countries are still well short of having the doses they need to fully immunize their populations, Britain has sufficient supplies to consider launching an autumn vaccine booster program. In this, those most at risk from COVID-19 would be given a third vaccine dose to bolster their immunity.

But the problem is that there isn't clear evidence that these boosters are needed, writes Sheena Cruickshank, professor in biomedical sciences at the University of Manchester. The protection offered by two vaccine doses hasn't shown signs of dropping off, and the current vaccines still guard well against the worst effects of COVID-19 despite the emergence of new variants. It would be better for Britain to give these doses to countries where vaccine coverage currently is low.

That said, we don't know what the future will hold. A new variant—lambda—has started spreading across the globe, with eight cases having been recorded in the UK. It's unclear yet whether it is more transmissible, deadly or evasive than other variants, but if it is, taking steps to boost people's protection might suddenly seem like a good idea.
...}

 

[Rigby5]

Sure, from your link.

We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were conducted and certainty of the evidence was assessed using the GRADE approach and additionally in trial sequential analyses for mortality. Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.

Wow, 24 trials and 3400 participants from 'databases'?

That is about the amount of testing these mRNA injection had when they were first used about 6 months ago, and the trials show 95% reduction, which is phenomenal.

 

[Smokin' OP]

So then you are agreeing with me, that they can't demand or require anything that can't be justified in terms of the rights of others.

Absolutely EVERYONE is admitting these mRNA injections are incredibly harmful.
Not only have 11k died after vaccination, but the spike proteins migrate and your immune system causes blood clots when it attacks them,

'So then you are agreeing with me, that they can't demand or require anything that can't be justified in terms of the rights of others'.

No, I'm not.
Sending a person home because of the flu, protects the rights of others, to avoid catching it.

'Not only have 11k died after vaccination'.....................Thank you Dr, Facebook, Dr, twitter and Epoch times.

'but the spike proteins migrate and your immune system causes blood clots'

So, does Voltaren. Ibuprofen. Naproxen and more than a dozen medications.

 

[Rigby5]

'So then you are agreeing with me, that they can't demand or require anything that can't be justified in terms of the rights of others'.

No, I'm not.
Sending a person home because of the flu, protects the rights of others, to avoid catching it.

'Not only have 11k died after vaccination'.....................Thank you Dr, Facebook, Dr, twitter and Epoch times.

'but the spike proteins migrate and your immune system causes blood clots'

So, does Voltaren. Ibuprofen. Naproxen and more than a dozen medications.

No, the other drugs you listed are not generally known for causing dangerous blood clots like these mRNA spike proteins are well known to always cause to some degree,
Don't you get it?
The only thing remotely harmful about covid-19 are these spike proteins, so then it is crazy dangerous to deliberately inject these deadly spike proteins into people.
If they had used the real virus, but killed it by nullifying its spike proteins, then it would be a real vaccine and be safe.

 

[Smokin' OP]

That is ridiculous.
Vaccines cure nothing at all.
What vaccines do is try to prepare your immune system with dead viruses, so that later when it encounters real life viruses, it won't waste time on cure attempts that won't work.
But these mRNA injections do not contain dead viruses, but only a spike protein, so that is all it can get the immune system to recognize.
The point is these mRNA injections are causing vast increases in all other illnesses the immune system used to handle,

And no, in places like Israel where just about every one is vaccinated, all those hospitalized or dying from covid have been vaccinated,
The US is just lying about the actual figures.

My mistake, 'They are cures for viruses/diseases'.
They don't initially, and are not cures, they eradicate diseases.
Look at smallpox, the measles, rubella and polio.

'And no, in places like Israel where just about every one is vaccinated, all those hospitalized or dying from covid have been vaccinated'.

September 17, 2021
Unvaccinated adults now account for the majority of severe COVID-19 cases and fatalities in Israel, with over six of every 10 new severe cases recorded on Tuesday linked to this group.

Around 15 percent of eligible Israelis over the age of 12 (some 1,105,000 people) are still unvaccinated. Of this group, 10 percent (755,000 people) are over the age of 20 and constitute nearly all of the country’s serious cases and deaths.

According to Health Ministry data, 63 percent of 57 new serious cases on Tuesday were completely unvaccinated, while 12 had received two shots and nine had gotten a booster. Overall, there are 644 patients in serious condition, of whom 472 (73 percent) were unvaccinated; 123 patients had received two shots, while 49 had received a booster.

Yeah, they must be lying too.

 

[Smokin' OP]

No, the other drugs you listed are not generally known for causing dangerous blood clots like these mRNA spike proteins are well known to always cause to some degree,
Don't you get it?
The only thing remotely harmful about covid-19 are these spike proteins, so then it is crazy dangerous to deliberately inject these deadly spike proteins into people.
If they had used the real virus, but killed it by nullifying its spike proteins, then it would be a real vaccine and be safe.

 

[Smokin' OP]

No, the other drugs you listed are not generally known for causing dangerous blood clots like these mRNA spike proteins are well known to always cause to some degree,
Don't you get it?
The only thing remotely harmful about covid-19 are these spike proteins, so then it is crazy dangerous to deliberately inject these deadly spike proteins into people.
If they had used the real virus, but killed it by nullifying its spike proteins, then it would be a real vaccine and be safe.

"No, the other drugs you listed are not generally known for causing dangerous blood clots like these mRNA spike proteins are well known to always cause to some degree'.

Either is the covid vaccine.

June 22, 2021

This week, AstraZeneca said its COVID-19 vaccine carries a small extra risk of rare blood clots with low platelets after the first dose and no extra risk after the second.

The study was led and funded by the drugmaker after worries over side effects.

The study, published in the Lancet, found that the estimated rate of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after the first dose was 8.1 per million in those inoculated, AstraZeneca said.

After the second dose of the vaccine, branded Vaxzevria and invented by Oxford University, the rate was 2.3 per million, comparable to that seen in unvaccinated people, the Anglo-Swedish company added.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Yeah, I'm a fascist for stating the facts.

I am correcting Fox News's usual sloppy reporting.

Two of the four applicants are paraprofessionals. They are not teachers. They are teacher assistants. To be a paraprofessional, you only need an Associate's Degree.

and we're suppose to believe what you., as quoted, from some 2 bit newspaper/article......ya sure.

 

[CowboyTed]

Look at little fascist you supporting an authoritarian dictator.

How unsurprising.

George Washington mandated vaccines which was far more risky that this one...

Was he an authoritarian dictator?

Could please stop calling George Washington an an authoritarian dictator as some people might take offence...

 

[CowboyTed]

You are denigrating an effort to stop an authoritarian ruling.

You simply can't help yourself.

You love you your dictators.

George Washington had a mandate for a vaccine.

All those Trump loving Governors like Noem and DeSantis have states the school children are mandated on have a number of vaccines to attend school...

Why aren't you calling these dictators?

 

[CowboyTed]

So then you are agreeing with me, that they can't demand or require anything that can't be justified in terms of the rights of others.

Absolutely EVERYONE is admitting these mRNA injections are incredibly harmful.
Not only have 11k died after vaccination, but the spike proteins migrate and your immune system causes blood clots when it attacks them,

Please give this evidence... Hard Evidence... of "Absolutely EVERYONE is admitting these mRNA injections are incredibly harmful"....
I don't want one or two wackjobs but almost everyone....

" 11k died after vaccination" - Not suprising... Vaccine has a pretty high intake and people die... Careful how you didn't say 11k died from vaccination...

As for Blood Clots, it is real but rare, medical people say people who are inclined to blood clot are far more likely to get it if they get COVID... So if you are susceptible to blood clothing the safest thing you can do is get vaccinated..

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No, a private company can not require anything that is not necessary for the job

Not true. I know a guy that worked for Pepsi that got fired for being seen by his manager buy Coke products.

can not discriminate

They can discriminate, just not against protected classes.

and can not force something that is harmful like these mRNA injections.

So far the courts disagree.

If the employer had the right to make any rules of employment they wanted, the there would be no successful sexual harassment cases,

Sexual harassment is against the law, which overrides employer rules.