Little ice age on the way? So let's destroy oil, coal and natural gas, right Hilary?

2aguy

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yes.....we are on the verge of a little ice age....as solar activity declines and the summers will be cold and the winters will be brutal.......

This is the best time to wreck coal, oil and natural gas...it will weed out the poor and the weak...as socialist regimes always do.....

'Winter Is Coming' Warns The Solar Physicist The Alarmists Tried To Silence


Make the most of this summer because it could be your last decent one: winter is coming as the planet enters the most devastating cooling period since the 65-year Maunder Minimum of the 17th and early 18th centuries.
This is the dire forecast of Professor Valentina Zharkova, a solar physicist at Northumbria University, who has based her prediction on sun spot activity – known to be a significant driver of global climate – which is currently very low and likely to get even lower during the next three solar cycles.

She has spoken about her research and her battle to get it taken seriously by the climate establishment in an interview with the Global Warming Policy Forum. You can see it in this short film.
 
I am in fact pretty skeptical about the possibility of a new great episode. I think we do not know enough about how the solar dynamo works and, therefore, it is not possible to offer predictions. In fact, the studies that suggest a Grand sunspot minimum are based on observational aspects and not on the physics of the Sun.

In any case, I can point out that we showed recently that the transition from a normal to a grand minimum state occurred gradually during the Maunder Minimum (Vaquero et al., 2011). Therefore, if a new Grand minimum occurs in this century, I expect that the transition will be gradual (not abrupt) again.

Some authors have begun to explore the impact of a possible solar grand minimum on the climate of the Earth (Feulner and Rahmstorf, 2010; Jones et al., 2012; Anet et al., 2013; Meehl et al., 2013). Early results suggest that this grand minimum will not stop global warming caused by CO2 and other greenhouse gases. However, locally, the signal of this possible Grand minimum could be more intense, for example, in the European winter (Barriopedro et al., 2008; Lockwood et al., 2010).

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José Manuel Vaquero (Badajoz, Spain, 1973) is a physicist interested in the reconstruction of solar activity and Earth’s climate during the last centuries from documentary sources. He is currently lecturer in Physics of the Earth (Centro Universitario de Mérida, University of Extremadura, Spain). Dr. Vaquero has published over 110 papers in peer-reviewed journals and a book (co-authored by Manuel Vázquez) entitled “The Sun Recorded Through History” (Springer, Astrophysics and Space Science Library, Vol. 361, 2009).

What will happen during a new Maunder Minimum? « Climate Dialogue

According to this physicist, if the minimum does happen, which is still in doubt, it will occur slowly. In the meantime, we are still heating the earth with GHGs, so it will simply represent a slower heating process, no cooling.
 
The predictability of solar variability. Although there are different long-term “predictions” of solar activity, they are not predictions in a strict sense. It is more correct to call them “possible scenarios”. Such scenarios are based typically on multiharmonic (or neural network or other) mathematical extrapolations of the existing series. This would work if the time series were stationary (in the sense that a sufficiently long subset of data contains the main statistical features of the entire series). However, the solar activity data sets have been shown to be essentially non-stationary thus making true predictions hardly possible because of an essential stochastic/chaotic component. E.g. with an equal success one can predict the behaviour of the financial market and become rich. The issue is that no one knows when the new Grand Minimum occurs and no one really knows what would happen then. I call such extended minima of suppressed solar activity Grand Minima, since the Maunder Minimum (lasting from 1645 till about 1700 or 1712) is only one of those. Later minima, such as the Dalton Minimum (ca. 1800 AD) and modern (ca. 1900 AD) ones were not really Grand Minima, in neither depth or duration.

Indeed, we are certain that there will be a Grand Minimum sooner or later (there were 27 ones during the last 11 millennia, see Fig. 2) but their occurrence is unpredictable. The 27 minima during 11 millennia imply that Grand Minima appear roughly every 400 years, but they are spread very unevenly, with intervals between them being from a hundred years to a few thousand years. No regularity was found in their occurrence (except for the ~200-yr repetition appearing sporadically), but rigorous statistical studies suggest that they occur randomly. Thus, no definite prediction of a future Grand Minimum is possible, but a probabilistic forecast can be made, e.g. Barnard et al., (2011) said: “There is an 8% chance of the Sun falling into a grand minimum during the next 40 years”. This is not a prediction but a probabilistic forecast or also called a possible scenario. Concerning the influence on climate, I think we are unable at the moment to make a realistic assessment to what will be the consequence, since many processes are still poorly understood and modelled.

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Prof. Ilya Usoskin works at the University of Oulu (Finland). He is vice-Director of the Finnish National Centre of Excellence in Research on Solar Long-term Variability and Effects (ReSoLVE). He focuses his research on Solar and Solar-terrestrial physics as well as in Cosmic Ray physics. He is a member of numerous scientific commissions and panels, reviewer and member of editorial boards for a number of professional journals, and an organizer of scientific conferences and symposia, including a series of biennial International Symposia in Space Climate. He is an author of more than 200 scientific publications, including 150 peer-review ones, among those a dozen of invited reviews and book chapters.

http://www.climatedialogue.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Blog-Ilya-Usoskin-def.pdf

An 8% chance of a minimum occurring within the next 40 years. About the same chance as Trump has of being President.
 
2aguy, the problem with coal is:
We live on a small planet in a vast universe. It is NOT infinite in size and infinite in resources. Because of this we have a finite amount of resources and coal is absolutely, NOT a renewable resource and mining for it is environmentally destructive.
We MUST further our transition to wind-power, solar energy, ocean wave directed energy, et cetera.
 

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