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I haven't read or participated in this thread, and what Lightfoot has to do with Rudy Giuliani's electronics being seized I can't begin to fathom. Go spray your spittle somewhere else, you crazy bastard.I wanna repeat something here...
THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE MOTHER FUCKER IN ALL OF ENGLISH LANGUAGE BASED LAWS SINCE THE GODDAMNED MAGNA CARTA WAS SIGNED, OR IN ALL JUDICIAL HISTORY THAT I CAN READ who had their FUCKING LAWYER'S house raided. When the fuckin NAZIs were on trial their lawyers didn't get raided. When fuckin STALIN put people on show trials, THEIR LAWYERS WERE NOT RAIDED.
I created two threads on this and not one son of a bitch "legal scholar" of all the assholes who present themselves to be one can point to an instance in all of criminal justice history where a man under investigation had government officials raid the files of the accused's LEGAL COUNSEL in order to find dirt on said man.
I don't care if it was Stalin's Lawyer, Hitler's Lawyer, Osama Bin Laden's Lawyer, Ted Bundy's Lawyer, You can't find a case, a subject, a perp, or anyone else on earth who had a LAWYER on a retainer that had their home and office RAIDED by government officials in order to find dirt on them.
OUR PRESIDENT had his lawyer's house and office raided and the feds FOUND FUCKING NOTHING THEY COULD PROSECUTE HIM FOR. They found a way to prosecute the lawyer, and stuck a hand up his ass to accuse his client of being a bastard, but they GOT NOTHING on Trump.
This should TERRIFY every citizen in this country that believes our government operates under restraints established by the COTUS.
It's because "people" like Coyote are willing to overlook any evil act done by a leftist, no matter how nefarious or depraved, and attempt to deflect their guilt by asserting the people she hates are "at least as bad". Like Stalin's people convicting nazis, even though the bolsheviks killed twice as many, or if Mao's government ever had the chance to convict the soviets even though they 250% more.
It's insane that we tolerate these leftist lunatics to exist beyond confinement in an asylum. I'm talking to you again Coyote and at this point Care4all or OldLady . How do you keep defending criminal sociopaths in offices of political power who always get away with the worst criminal acts and still manage to sleep at night?
Full disclosure: I know I will not get a response worth reading. I encourage it... Fuck I'm BEGGING FOR IT, but I won't get one. They haven't been programmed with one..
Coyoted did come within orbit but made herself and whatever stupid leftist website she read seem legit.
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Fine....Any lawyer with probable cause of committing a crime, can get a legal search warrant filedagainst them...any communications of a crime, can be viewed by law enforcement. Like in the Cohen case.
But know, judicial magistrates, are the ones who first went through the Cohen data and communications not involved in attorney client privilege before handing over to the law enforcement investigators... President Trump, even had his lawyers involved with the magistrates, to make certain nothing given to Cohen's investigators, was privileged.
Yes, the tactics of L/E can be disturbing to see, but as it sits, it IS all legal and a normal LE tactic to catch the bigger fish, like in plea bargains.
It's Chicago. Why wouldn't she?
Let's see if she get's re-elected with that crap.
Try reading the thread you jabbering hag.I haven't read or participated in this thread, and what Lightfoot has to do with Rudy Giuliani's electronics being seized I can't begin to fathom. Go spray your spittle somewhere else, you crazy bastard.
Good point.It's Chicago. Why wouldn't she?
Let's see if she get's re-elected with that crap.
John Mitchell, Nixon's 68 and '72 campaign manager, law partner, advisor, and Attorney General.... It was done before to a presidents lawyer....Fine....Any lawyer with probable cause of committing a crime, can get a legal search warrant filedagainst them...any communications of a crime, can be viewed by law enforcement. Like in the Cohen case.
But know, judicial magistrates, are the ones who first went through the Cohen data and communications not involved in attorney client privilege before handing over to the law enforcement investigators... President Trump, even had his lawyers involved with the magistrates, to make certain nothing given to Cohen's investigators, was privileged.
Yes, the tactics of L/E can be disturbing to see, but as it sits, it IS all legal and a normal LE tactic to catch the bigger fish, like in plea bargains.
BUT WHEN HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE???
Least of all to a sitting POTUS. Nixon's lawyers were not RAIDED in the dead of night, nor were John Gotti's. It's not just "disturbing", it's the epitome of tyranny. STALIN didn't do that sort of shit, FUCKING HITLER didn't do that sort of shit. It's not "normal" it's UNPRECEDENTED. You can not point to a single instance in all of judicial history where someone's LAWYER had their door kicked in by armed agents of the government so that they could find some tidbit of information to prosecute a client.
To make it that much worse, NOTHING was found that made it possible to convict Trump for a GOD DAMNED THING.
I'm also not coming at this from a zealot's perspective. In 2016 I was NOT a Trump fan at all. I regularly referred to the man as the "World's Richest Professional Clown". I wrote in Ted Cruz rather than vote for him because I didn't believe he was even trying to beat hitlery. The fucker won me over in not just what he accomplished, but by the opposition he endured. The entire federal government, which is a GIGANTIC MALIGNANT CANCEROUS TUMOR attempted to purge him for the entirety of his administration. Does that not signal to you the possibility that the dude was actually trying to fix shit?
I know I'm not the only one who see's it, I just can't believe that YOU, or Coyote or OldLady and a few other libs I don't ignore because you aren't window licking jabbering retard drones refuse to acknowledge that Trump WAS NOT "hitler" and was not guilty of anything. Ya'll persist on demonizing the man and everyone who supports him for reasons I can not comprehend. You can't even acknowledge the shit he endured while trying to run the country was beyond contemptible. Next time we elect someone the feds deem "deplorable" I expect the chief justice to just shoot him (or her) in the fuckin face on stage at the inauguration. That's the only step lower we could actually take.
Yet Lightfoot will be re-elected, EASILY, and you won't care if it takes the votes of 1,000,000 dead people.
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That's an ends justifies the means argument. It is the argument that evil deeds are justified if the end is good.Now, white people are going to know what it is like to be discriminated against, and that will cause white people to do something.
It also indicates that the instigator does not know what they want.That's an ends justifies the means argument. It is the argument that evil deeds are justified if the end is good.Now, white people are going to know what it is like to be discriminated against, and that will cause white people to do something.
The left often acts simply to create chaos, which the left believes will create opportunities to destroy the civilization the left is attacking.It also indicates that the instigator does not know what they want.That's an ends justifies the means argument. It is the argument that evil deeds are justified if the end is good.Now, white people are going to know what it is like to be discriminated against, and that will cause white people to do something.
Was his home and office RAIDED by armed agents in the dead of night just to dig up dirt on a matter unrelated to Watergate? He was also a federal employee, not Nixon's PRIVATE ATTORNEY.John Mitchell, Nixon's 68 and '72 campaign manager, law partner, advisor, and Attorney General.... It was done before to a presidents lawyer....
John Mitchell | Civil Rights, Watergate & Nixon
John Mitchell was the U.S. attorney general during the Nixon administration who served 19 months in prison (1977–79) for his participation in the Watergate Scandal. Mitchell played semiprofessional hockey while working his way through Fordham University (New York City) and Fordham law school.
All I know is, Rudy's computers were taken because they suspect HIM of wrongdoing in Ukraine, of many years standing.Fine....Any lawyer with probable cause of committing a crime, can get a legal search warrant filedagainst them...any communications of a crime, can be viewed by law enforcement. Like in the Cohen case.
But know, judicial magistrates, are the ones who first went through the Cohen data and communications not involved in attorney client privilege before handing over to the law enforcement investigators... President Trump, even had his lawyers involved with the magistrates, to make certain nothing given to Cohen's investigators, was privileged.
Yes, the tactics of L/E can be disturbing to see, but as it sits, it IS all legal and a normal LE tactic to catch the bigger fish, like in plea bargains.
BUT WHEN HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE???
Least of all to a sitting POTUS. Nixon's lawyers were not RAIDED in the dead of night, nor were John Gotti's. It's not just "disturbing", it's the epitome of tyranny. STALIN didn't do that sort of shit, FUCKING HITLER didn't do that sort of shit. It's not "normal" it's UNPRECEDENTED. You can not point to a single instance in all of judicial history where someone's LAWYER had their door kicked in by armed agents of the government so that they could find some tidbit of information to prosecute a client.
To make it that much worse, NOTHING was found that made it possible to convict Trump for a GOD DAMNED THING.
I'm also not coming at this from a zealot's perspective. In 2016 I was NOT a Trump fan at all. I regularly referred to the man as the "World's Richest Professional Clown". I wrote in Ted Cruz rather than vote for him because I didn't believe he was even trying to beat hitlery. The fucker won me over in not just what he accomplished, but by the opposition he endured. The entire federal government, which is a GIGANTIC MALIGNANT CANCEROUS TUMOR attempted to purge him for the entirety of his administration. Does that not signal to you the possibility that the dude was actually trying to fix shit?
I know I'm not the only one who see's it, I just can't believe that YOU, or Coyote or OldLady and a few other libs I don't ignore because you aren't window licking jabbering retard drones refuse to acknowledge that Trump WAS NOT "hitler" and was not guilty of anything. Ya'll persist on demonizing the man and everyone who supports him for reasons I can not comprehend. You can't even acknowledge the shit he endured while trying to run the country was beyond contemptible. Next time we elect someone the feds deem "deplorable" I expect the chief justice to just shoot him (or her) in the fuckin face on stage at the inauguration. That's the only step lower we could actually take.
Yet Lightfoot will be re-elected, EASILY, and you won't care if it takes the votes of 1,000,000 dead people.
Was his home and office RAIDED by armed agents in the dead of night just to dig up dirt on a matter unrelated to Watergate? He was also a federal employee, not Nixon's PRIVATE ATTORNEY.John Mitchell, Nixon's 68 and '72 campaign manager, law partner, advisor, and Attorney General.... It was done before to a presidents lawyer....
John Mitchell | Civil Rights, Watergate & Nixon
John Mitchell was the U.S. attorney general during the Nixon administration who served 19 months in prison (1977–79) for his participation in the Watergate Scandal. Mitchell played semiprofessional hockey while working his way through Fordham University (New York City) and Fordham law school.
It's an entirely different circumstance. The prosecution of Cohen, who I agree is a piece of shit BTW, is entirely different.
I will furthermore add however that if anyone should have been prosecuted in the Watergate scandal, it should have been all the democrook sociopaths communicating with the KGB and doing the bidding of soviet interests. Nixon was trying to expose treasonous pieces of shit, but the table got turned because he broke the law in that endeavor.
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But you would have higher expectations of a WHITE mayor in a hypothetically WHITE city.Good point.It's Chicago. Why wouldn't she?
Let's see if she get's re-elected with that crap.
Rudy isn't the lawyer I was talking about. Yet you don't have a problem over the fact he is being persecuted. Furthermore, they tried to impeach Trump for doing exactly what then VP Biden did, even thought POTUS Trump didn't even do what VP Xiden DID DO, and Xiden did admit it in front of an audience.All I know is, Rudy's computers were taken because they suspect HIM of wrongdoing in Ukraine, of many years standing.
Giuliani, the 76-year-old former New York City mayor once celebrated for his leadership after 9/11, has been under federal scrutiny for several years over his ties to Ukraine. The dual searches sent the strongest signal yet that he could eventually face federal charges.
Agents searched Giuliani’s Madison Avenue apartment and Park Avenue office, people familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press. The warrants, which required approval from the top levels of the Justice Department, signify that prosecutors believe they have probable cause that Giuliani committed a federal crime — though they do not guarantee that charges will materialize.
I have no idea what they think he's done--I thought at first maybe he was getting investigated for that disgusting dog and pony show he did up and down the country with Sidney on election fraud. But no, it appears he's playing footsie with the oligarchs, maybe? All I can think of. Anyway, it wasn't to get stuff on Trump.
Yeah, it's been two decades actually. I was a fuckin democrat "liberal" in my late teens. Until I learned that Ted Kennedy KILLED A WOMAN, and got away with it because of an aristocracy. That was around the same time I started to question why 25% of my minimum paycheck was gone before I could pay my fuckin rent or buy food, yet none of that money seemed to help increase anyone else's standards of living when I researched the data, which I did do, in a place called LIBRARY and I studied books published by the US govt.
Sooooo, you've had this Democratic hatred condition for decades, I see???
let it go, and you would see, that we are just fellow Americans...
and you'd see that you really live in one of the most beautiful countries in the world, and even with all her faults and short comings, America is one of, it not THE,
best countries in the world....on many levels,
even with naysayers like you on every corner!
What lawyer are you talking about then?Rudy isn't the lawyer I was talking about. Yet you don't have a problem over the fact he is being persecuted. Furthermore, they tried to impeach Trump for doing exactly what then VP Biden did, even thought POTUS Trump didn't even do what VP Xiden DID DO, and Xiden did admit it in front of an audience.All I know is, Rudy's computers were taken because they suspect HIM of wrongdoing in Ukraine, of many years standing.
Giuliani, the 76-year-old former New York City mayor once celebrated for his leadership after 9/11, has been under federal scrutiny for several years over his ties to Ukraine. The dual searches sent the strongest signal yet that he could eventually face federal charges.
Agents searched Giuliani’s Madison Avenue apartment and Park Avenue office, people familiar with the investigation told The Associated Press. The warrants, which required approval from the top levels of the Justice Department, signify that prosecutors believe they have probable cause that Giuliani committed a federal crime — though they do not guarantee that charges will materialize.
I have no idea what they think he's done--I thought at first maybe he was getting investigated for that disgusting dog and pony show he did up and down the country with Sidney on election fraud. But no, it appears he's playing footsie with the oligarchs, maybe? All I can think of. Anyway, it wasn't to get stuff on Trump.
Don't play dumb with me.
