Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates

[Dad2three]

It is a ponzi scheme.

I don't need you or any government scumbag to force me to buy "insurance"

The 2nd circuit court of appeals ruled that it was unconstitutional. The low life scumbags in SCOTUS ruled that it was constitutional in order to prevent FDR from packing the court and causing a constitutional crisis. That is blackmail.

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And SCOTUS has CONTINUALLY ruled SS, Medicare, Medicaid, WELFARE, ETC as CONSTITUTIONAL. Go figure.

SCOTUS justices are government employees.

Reason we have a gargantuan government which controls everything and respects no one's rights.

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"Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates"??? lol

 

[Dad2three]

In other words, **** them?

n other words, personal responsibility. It's not my responsibility to care for any that I chose not to care for. And nor should it. This applies to every single person. The fact that you guys continue to use appeal to emotion arguments to justify conscripting people onto paying for something for someone else tells the tale all too well.

Exactly.

I, for one, think we should help them, and that's what I try to do. But I don't think people should go to jail if they don't join me in that effort.

Yes, because HISTORY shows how well YOUR idea worked right?

 

[Dad2three]

You're so full of bullshit. Insurance is a consumer service. It is something people obtain, or at least they used to, by voluntary means. Meaning if they choose not to get it, they pay out of pocket. Or they deal with the consequences of not having either. There is nothing voluntary about SS or medicare, just like there is nothing voluntary about ACA. These are not choices, they are forced schemes, and terribly unsustainable ones at that.

You just can't wait to harm people can you? Those programs have SAVED millions of lives. They have save citizens MILLIONS of dollars.

Social security is a concept enshrined in Article 22 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which states:

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

You and your ilk just can't understand human decency and civilized existence. It is because of these great programs that turds like you never have to find out what you call for would really look like.

I am not bound by a document I totally disagree with.

lol, " Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates"


Libertarians are frauds and parasites but unfortunately have been successful in hiding their dangerous disease under war hating, and freedom loving. Sadly their freedom isn't freedom, it is chaos and opens the door to a real loss of democracy.


They unwittingly use the protections, benefits and accomplishments government has to offer to create their fortunes (Kochs), while pompously declaring they did it all on their own.

Clueless igets, everyone.

 

[Slyhunter]

You just can't wait to harm people can you? Those programs have SAVED millions of lives. They have save citizens MILLIONS of dollars.

Social security is a concept enshrined in Article 22 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which states:

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

You and your ilk just can't understand human decency and civilized existence. It is because of these great programs that turds like you never have to find out what you call for would really look like.

I am not bound by a document I totally disagree with.

lol, " Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates"


Libertarians are frauds and parasites but unfortunately have been successful in hiding their dangerous disease under war hating, and freedom loving. Sadly their freedom isn't freedom, it is chaos and opens the door to a real loss of democracy.


They unwittingly use the protections, benefits and accomplishments government has to offer to create their fortunes (Kochs), while pompously declaring they did it all on their own.

Clueless igets, everyone.

getting rid of the minimum wage, while getting rid of welfare, and opening the borders to anyone who wants to work here is not a moderate position. We'll have middle class people living in the streets with jobs if that happens.

 

[dblack]

I am not bound by a document I totally disagree with.

lol, " Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates"


Libertarians are frauds and parasites but unfortunately have been successful in hiding their dangerous disease under war hating, and freedom loving. Sadly their freedom isn't freedom, it is chaos and opens the door to a real loss of democracy.


They unwittingly use the protections, benefits and accomplishments government has to offer to create their fortunes (Kochs), while pompously declaring they did it all on their own.

Clueless igets, everyone.

getting rid of the minimum wage, while getting rid of welfare, and opening the borders to anyone who wants to work here is not a moderate position. We'll have middle class people living in the streets with jobs if that happens.

Cats and dogs, living together! Pandemonium!

 

[RWHeathenGamer]

Libertarians are the true nation wreckers along with marxists.

 

[dblack]

Libertarians are the true nation wreckers along with marxists.

Lock up your daughters!

 

[JakeStarkey]

Libertarians and marxists are merely the opposite sides of the Coin Delusion.

 

[dblack]

Uh oh... Looks like Jakester's hitting the sauce again ....

 

[Quantum Windbag]

You just can't wait to harm people can you? Those programs have SAVED millions of lives. They have save citizens MILLIONS of dollars.

Social security is a concept enshrined in Article 22 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which states:

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.

You and your ilk just can't understand human decency and civilized existence. It is because of these great programs that turds like you never have to find out what you call for would really look like.

I am not bound by a document I totally disagree with.

lol, " Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates"


Libertarians are frauds and parasites but unfortunately have been successful in hiding their dangerous disease under war hating, and freedom loving. Sadly their freedom isn't freedom, it is chaos and opens the door to a real loss of democracy.


They unwittingly use the protections, benefits and accomplishments government has to offer to create their fortunes (Kochs), while pompously declaring they did it all on their own.

Clueless igets, everyone.

Keep lying to yourself, it is the only way you can survive.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The delusionist libertarians are fun to watch melt down.

Failed miserably in trying to take over the GOP. And now they are turning on each other.

 

[dblack]

The delusionist libertarians are fun to watch melt down.

Failed miserably in trying to take over the GOP. And now they are turning on each other.

Mad Dog? Or Thunderbird? What's your poison, Jakester?

 

[ScienceRocks]

If these people are the moderates. Then child labor would be legal and we'd have to give up all of our science institutions.

Our high ways would be owned by corporate interest and our schools would only be for the rich.

Doesn't sound to moderate to me.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Libertarians are delusional as a group.

Put them into a true libertarian community and they would be quickly reduced to the butt buddies and girls for the power elites.

 

[Contumacious]

Libertarians are delusional as a group.

Put them into a true libertarian community and they would be quickly reduced to the butt buddies and girls for the power elites.

Comrade Starkiev:

If you are depicting a "true Libertarian Community" then where did the "power elite" comes from?

And isn't it true that in order to survive in the old USSR you were required to be butt buddies with the KGB? Isn't if a fact that the reason you needed Obama Hellcare is due to rectal leakage ?

 

[kaz]

getting rid of the minimum wage, while getting rid of welfare, and opening the borders to anyone who wants to work here is not a moderate position. We'll have middle class people living in the streets with jobs if that happens.

Getting rid of the minimum wage is certainly moderate. The ideas that someone can't make a choice of what they are willing to work for and government preventing them from working if they are not worth $7.25 an hour is beyond extreme and into loonie kazoonie land.

Eliminating all welfare programs including social security is also moderate. Look at the massive waste when it's done at the national level. And the idea that rural Arkansas = New York City is idiotic. Government charity should be the last resort, not the first, and it should be as local as possible.

I'm with you on the open borders. The libertarians who support that are idiots who are focused on their ideology and not reality.

 

[kaz]

Libertarians are frauds and parasites but unfortunately have been successful in hiding their dangerous disease under war hating, and freedom loving. Sadly their freedom isn't freedom, it is chaos and opens the door to a real loss of democracy.

LOL, wanting less government is being a "parasite."

Dad2three, stupidity you can't make up...

 

[Contumacious]

And SCOTUS has CONTINUALLY ruled SS, Medicare, Medicaid, WELFARE, ETC as CONSTITUTIONAL. Go figure.

SCOTUS justices are government employees.

Reason we have a gargantuan government which controls everything and respects no one's rights.

.

"Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates"??? lol

NO, we are not.

Someone else made that statement.

We are true FREEDOM RADICALS - no compromises. The ONLY thing we promise is the FREEDOM TO PURSUE HAPPINESS. NO GUARANTEES>

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[JakeStarkey]

The laughable commentary of the "libertarians" continue.

When all the goobering and garbaging are distilled, the result simply is that they don't want to be subject to that states and governments in the modern age cannot conform to the small, limited government model, because civil and personal liberties will not be protected.

 

[kaz]

NO, we are not.

Someone else made that statement.

We are true FREEDOM RADICALS - no compromises. The ONLY thing we promise is the FREEDOM TO PURSUE HAPPINESS. NO GUARANTEES>

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That was me. We are political moderates. We believe government should be the last resort, not the first. It should not remove people's rights unless there is no other way. Government should not benefit one citizen at the expense of another. Personal freedom should come with personal responsibility.

What is not moderate about our views?