Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates

[kaz]

I lied about nothing. Corporations, like everyone else who hands in checks, does so to get their way, and they do since the government is for sale and the American people allow such a thing to happen. If you would stop jumping to conclusions, wrongly, you might just learn something.

You're so busy telling everyone what they think that you forget to ask. Next time, just ask.

I don't need to "ask" what you think about what you just said. Someone who thinks the red above is a libertarian. For that reason. You are an authoritarian leftist, and a liar. If you thought that, you would not want MORE government power, it's just stupid. And those of us reading your drivel are not all stupid. If you believed that, the last thing you'd want is more government power. Think about it. But don't hurt yourself.

Hey guys, government is for sale! People are letting it happen. Oh, and we need more government! Lots more! Yeah, sure...

Someone who writes what's in red above is dealing with reality, not your strong suit...

We both agree with what is in red. I say yes, and we need to reduce the power of the government so people can't buy power. You say, and let's turbo charge this baby and pump more money into government! Government that's being bought! Let's give them more money, more money more money.

And you say I am not dealing with reality? LOL. Reality is a tiny dot at this point in your rear view mirror...

 

[kaz]

The difference between us is that I love this country, and want to defend it.

You love this country like cancer loves a breast.

The sooner we nip you in the bud, the better off we'll be.

Wow, you suck at analogies. Cancer devours a breast. I want liberty. I respect the liberty of others and want others to respect mine.

You want a government that ever grows and consumes more money and more of the economy.

Your analogy clearly directly applies to you and is a complete non-sequitur to me. Sorry dude, you're running on empty.

 

[kaz]

You are NO libertarian, and you are NOT moderate, you are right wing SCUM.

Give me an example of how I am right wing that is not libertarian. I'm slapping you in the face with my silk glove and saying you have nothing in your pants.

So, back it up.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Wow, you suck at analogies. Cancer devours a breast.

Yes it does, which is why I used it. Cancer just wants to live, and it is unaware that by doing so it will kill the body. I know what you say you want but your way of getting it is the last thing we need.

 

[rightwinger]

Governments role is to do what needs doing

Most functions in life, you are more capable and more efficient at doing yourself. However, Government has the ability to collectively harness our resources and do things more efficiently than a bunch of individuals are

What made man the superior creature on this planet was not his ability to exist alone but to form societies that form a secure environment as well as a stronger economy. You do better as a member of a society than you do as an individual

 

[kaz]

Wow, you suck at analogies. Cancer devours a breast.

Yes it does, which is why I used it. Cancer just wants to live, and it is unaware that by doing so it will kill the body. I know what you say you want but your way of getting it is the last thing we need.

So when I respect the liberty of others and expect others to do the same for my liberty, I'm devouring ... what exactly? ...

And when you continue to raise taxes on job providers and give money to people who didn't earn it, that isn't devouring the economy. LOL. At you.

You actually think you're not only not a moron, but that you're intelligent and clever, don't you? It's a hoot.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Wow, you suck at analogies. Cancer devours a breast.

Yes it does, which is why I used it. Cancer just wants to live, and it is unaware that by doing so it will kill the body. I know what you say you want but your way of getting it is the last thing we need.

So when I respect the liberty of others and expect others to do the same for my liberty, I'm devouring ... what exactly? ...

And when you continue to raise taxes on job providers and give money to people who didn't earn it, that isn't devouring the economy. LOL. At you.

You actually think you're not only not a moron, but that you're intelligent and clever, don't you? It's a hoot.

What I am you will be unable to understand. It's why you believe as you do. Your mentality has been around for ages but it's never allowed to rule, for good reason. It can't govern, it believes that's unnecessary, and it's wrong...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You do better as a member of a society than you do as an individual

He'll never believe it. It goes against both the myths and the dogma of his mentality.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Losertrians are extreme right wing nuts when it comes to fiscal. They don't believe in the public sector or of many of the things that make America competitive with the rest of the first world.

-No investing in science
-No official science institutions
-No grants for science
-No safety net
-No ssi for the old
-No infrastructure investment. What first world country doesn't do this????
-No No educational grants
-No assuring fairness towards the workers
-No bringing up major corporations...No fairness towards the little businesses.
-No nothing.


Just short sighted idiocy.

 

[rightwinger]

You do better as a member of a society than you do as an individual

He'll never believe it. It goes against both the myths and the dogma of his mentality.

That is the major problem with libertarians. They want those portions of society that they benefit from but fight against anything government does that helps others

They do not realize that society does better when everyone is taken care of. Dog eat dog just ends up with alot of dead dogs

 

[dblack]

You do better as a member of a society than you do as an individual

He'll never believe it. It goes against both the myths and the dogma of his mentality.

That is the major problem with libertarians. They want those portions of society that they benefit from but fight against anything government does that helps others.

You seem to be equating society and government, and that's the 'major problem' with libertarians - they don't blindly accept the equivocation.

They do not realize that society does better when everyone is taken care of. Dog eat dog just ends up with alot of dead dogs

We realize society does better when everyone is taken care of. But we don't believe government is the right way to deliver that care.

 

[rightwinger]

He'll never believe it. It goes against both the myths and the dogma of his mentality.

That is the major problem with libertarians. They want those portions of society that they benefit from but fight against anything government does that helps others.

You seem to be equating society and government, and that's the 'major problem' with libertarians - they don't blindly accept the equivocation.

They do not realize that society does better when everyone is taken care of. Dog eat dog just ends up with alot of dead dogs

We realize society does better when everyone is taken care of. But we don't believe government is the right way to deliver that care.

Government is enacted by society. You can't have a functioning society without some form of government

 

[g5000]

Here are some things only government can do which Libertarians will not admit only government can do:

1) Prevent a factory owner from dumping toxic chemicals into our groundwater.

2) Prevent a food manufacturer from dumping toxic food into our food supply.

3) Prevent a pharmaceutical company from dumping a toxic "medicine" into our health care system.

4) Prevent Wall Street broker/dealers from robbing the common man blind.


And so forth.

 

[dblack]

That is the major problem with libertarians. They want those portions of society that they benefit from but fight against anything government does that helps others.

You seem to be equating society and government, and that's the 'major problem' with libertarians - they don't blindly accept the equivocation.

They do not realize that society does better when everyone is taken care of. Dog eat dog just ends up with alot of dead dogs

We realize society does better when everyone is taken care of. But we don't believe government is the right way to deliver that care.

Government is enacted by society. You can't have a functioning society without some form of government

But that's not what you're advocating. You're suggesting we can't take care of each other without government.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"What you said is the opposite of the meaning of the word. What a dumb ass."

You, like Political Chic and other weirdoes, keep trying to redefine terms to move you toward the middle.

You are not middle but an extremist.

The neo-cons very much want to bomb the enemy in the ME, and like you, commit troops on the ground.

"You seriously believe that attacking someone back who attacked you makes you a neocon.

Who has attacked us in Iraq since we left?

Words have meaning, and you need to realize you can't redefine them.

We can certainly punish those who hurt us: drones work, other means work, but full scale commitment in the ME, which is want you want, won't.

Don't ever think you will succeed in rewriting history or creating new definitions that pervert the meanings of words.

 

[rightwinger]

You seem to be equating society and government, and that's the 'major problem' with libertarians - they don't blindly accept the equivocation.



We realize society does better when everyone is taken care of. But we don't believe government is the right way to deliver that care.

Government is enacted by society. You can't have a functioning society without some form of government

But that's not what you're advocating. You're suggesting we can't take care of each other without government.

No I'm not

I'm questioning why government should not be involved if that is what "We the People" elect them to do

 

[dblack]

Government is enacted by society. You can't have a functioning society without some form of government

But that's not what you're advocating. You're suggesting we can't take care of each other without government.

No I'm not

I'm questioning why government should not be involved if that is what "We the People" elect them to do

Because government employs the threat of force to achieve its ends.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

But that's not what you're advocating. You're suggesting we can't take care of each other without government.

No I'm not

I'm questioning why government should not be involved if that is what "We the People" elect them to do

Because government employs the threat of force to achieve its ends.

Where do you guys get this The Government Puts A Gun To My Head thing? It's just utter nonsense. You don't pay your taxes and stop at red lights because of guns. You do so because the IRS can seize your bank accounts and cops write tickets. Where in God's name are the guns here? I've lived for decades and never had one pulled on me, by anyone, but especially not by my government. Fess up please...

 

[rightwinger]

But that's not what you're advocating. You're suggesting we can't take care of each other without government.

No I'm not

I'm questioning why government should not be involved if that is what "We the People" elect them to do

Because government employs the threat of force to achieve its ends.

We the People want you to pay your taxes. If you don't, we have empowered government to take punative action against you. Mostly they will garnish your wages or seize your assets. But if you are a real dick about it, you will go to jail

 

[kaz]

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