Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates

[dblack]

No I'm not

I'm questioning why government should not be involved if that is what "We the People" elect them to do

Because government employs the threat of force to achieve its ends.

We the People want you to pay your taxes. If you don't, we have empowered government to take punative action against you. Mostly they will garnish your wages or seize your assets. But if you are a real dick about it, you will go to jail

You seem to be missing the point.

We should only resort to force when it's truly necessary.

 

[rightwinger]

Because government employs the threat of force to achieve its ends.

We the People want you to pay your taxes. If you don't, we have empowered government to take punative action against you. Mostly they will garnish your wages or seize your assets. But if you are a real dick about it, you will go to jail

You seem to be missing the point.

We should only resort to force when it's truly necessary.

What force?

Even Libertarians have to pay their taxes

 

[dblack]

We the People want you to pay your taxes. If you don't, we have empowered government to take punative action against you. Mostly they will garnish your wages or seize your assets. But if you are a real dick about it, you will go to jail

You seem to be missing the point.

We should only resort to force when it's truly necessary.

What force?

Even Libertarians have to pay their taxes

Now i'm convinced you're deliberately missing it. Going to extremes to steer around it, in fact.

 

[rightwinger]

You seem to be missing the point.

We should only resort to force when it's truly necessary.

What force?

Even Libertarians have to pay their taxes

Now i'm convinced you're deliberately missing it. Going to extremes to steer around it, in fact.

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[Kosh]

What force?

Even Libertarians have to pay their taxes

Now i'm convinced you're deliberately missing it. Going to extremes to steer around it, in fact.

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Yes much goes over the head of the racist far left Obama drones, especially if it is not in their programming!

 

[rightwinger]

Now i'm convinced you're deliberately missing it. Going to extremes to steer around it, in fact.

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Yes much goes over the head of the racist far left Obama drones, especially if it is not in their programming!

You funny

 

[Kosh]

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Yes much goes over the head of the racist far left Obama drones, especially if it is not in their programming!

You funny

You a racist far left Obama drone!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Yes much goes over the head of the racist far left Obama drones, especially if it is not in their programming!

You funny

You a racist far left Obama drone!

Must you say that? it really makes you look like a damn fool and it's not necessary, if you really want to learn something that is, like why a healthy economy requires a healthy population and a healthy government. All of those require time and money and effort, and none of those just appear out of nowhere.

 

[rightwinger]

You funny

You a racist far left Obama drone!

Must you say that? it really makes you look like a damn fool and it's not necessary, if you really want to learn something that is, like why a healthy economy requires a healthy population and a healthy government. All of those require time and money and effort, and none of those just appear out of nowhere.

He gets some enjoyment out of posting "far left Obama drone " in every reply. He can't keep up with the discussion and somehow thinks it is cute

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You a racist far left Obama drone!

Must you say that? it really makes you look like a damn fool and it's not necessary, if you really want to learn something that is, like why a healthy economy requires a healthy population and a healthy government. All of those require time and money and effort, and none of those just appear out of nowhere.

He gets some enjoyment out of posting "far left Obama drone " in every reply. He can't keep up with the discussion and somehow thinks it is cute

I see that. I never put anyone on ignore but I'm thinking about doing that to him as a SPAM filter since he has nothing to say. I already don't see emoticons, sigs, and I'm not interested in bots either.

 

[kaz]

We the People want you to pay your taxes. If you don't, we have empowered government to take punative action against you. Mostly they will garnish your wages or seize your assets. But if you are a real dick about it, you will go to jail

You seem to be missing the point.

We should only resort to force when it's truly necessary.

What force?

Even Libertarians have to pay their taxes

I was going to ask you if you read the OP, but I won't bother.

Anarchists are specifically excluded from this, so you're missing the point as you typically do.

I'm not knocking anarchists, they just aren't moderates. It's small government libertarians who are moderates.

 

[kaz]

You are NO libertarian, and you are NOT moderate, you are right wing SCUM.

Give me an example of how I am right wing that is not libertarian. I'm slapping you in the face with my silk glove and saying you have nothing in your pants.

So, back it up.

So what do you say, Bfgrn? I'm challenging your manhood. Got anything?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No I'm not

I'm questioning why government should not be involved if that is what "We the People" elect them to do

Because government employs the threat of force to achieve its ends.

Where do you guys get this The Government Puts A Gun To My Head thing? It's just utter nonsense. You don't pay your taxes and stop at red lights because of guns. You do so because the IRS can seize your bank accounts and cops write tickets. Where in God's name are the guns here? I've lived for decades and never had one pulled on me, by anyone, but especially not by my government. Fess up please...

That was funny.

Ever seen a cop without a gun?

 

[rightwinger]

You seem to be missing the point.

We should only resort to force when it's truly necessary.

What force?

Even Libertarians have to pay their taxes

I was going to ask you if you read the OP, but I won't bother.

Anarchists are specifically excluded from this, so you're missing the point as you typically do.

I'm not knocking anarchists, they just aren't moderates. It's small government libertarians who are moderates.

Unfortunately, the anarchists have taken over the libertarians

Your problem is that We the People get to determine how big a government we want

 

[Kosh]

You a racist far left Obama drone!

Must you say that? it really makes you look like a damn fool and it's not necessary, if you really want to learn something that is, like why a healthy economy requires a healthy population and a healthy government. All of those require time and money and effort, and none of those just appear out of nowhere.

He gets some enjoyment out of posting "far left Obama drone " in every reply. He can't keep up with the discussion and somehow thinks it is cute

So one racist far left Obama drone agreeing with another racist far left Obama drone.

Go figure!

 

[dblack]

What force?

Even Libertarians have to pay their taxes

I was going to ask you if you read the OP, but I won't bother.

Anarchists are specifically excluded from this, so you're missing the point as you typically do.

I'm not knocking anarchists, they just aren't moderates. It's small government libertarians who are moderates.

Unfortunately, the anarchists have taken over the libertarians

Your problem is that We the People get to determine how big a government we want

And your problem is that you think "We the People" amounts to simple majority rule. It doesn't. It requires that we respect of the will of ALL of the people, not just the majority. Democrats used to get this. Nowadays, not so much.

 

[rightwinger]

I was going to ask you if you read the OP, but I won't bother.

Anarchists are specifically excluded from this, so you're missing the point as you typically do.

I'm not knocking anarchists, they just aren't moderates. It's small government libertarians who are moderates.

Unfortunately, the anarchists have taken over the libertarians

Your problem is that We the People get to determine how big a government we want

And your problem is that you think "We the People" amounts to simple majority rule. It doesn't. It requires that we respect of the will of ALL of the people, not just the majority. Democrats used to get this. Nowadays, not so much.

Do Lbertarians respect the will of ALL the people?

It seems they are only interested in themselves

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Because government employs the threat of force to achieve its ends.

Where do you guys get this The Government Puts A Gun To My Head thing? It's just utter nonsense. You don't pay your taxes and stop at red lights because of guns. You do so because the IRS can seize your bank accounts and cops write tickets. Where in God's name are the guns here? I've lived for decades and never had one pulled on me, by anyone, but especially not by my government. Fess up please...

That was funny.

Ever seen a cop without a gun?

Yes, and the ones with guns never point them at me, for any reason.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Unfortunately, the anarchists have taken over the libertarians

Your problem is that We the People get to determine how big a government we want

And your problem is that you think "We the People" amounts to simple majority rule. It doesn't. It requires that we respect of the will of ALL of the people, not just the majority. Democrats used to get this. Nowadays, not so much.

Do Lbertarians respect the will of ALL the people?

It seems they are only interested in themselves

Libertarians are infants. Me, myself, and I is there mantra...

 

[boedicca]

I'm reminded of the following Heinlein quote:



"Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they make better neighbors than the other sort."


Libertarians are by and large the surly curmudgeon types who just want to be left alone, and are perfectly happy leaving others alone.

Works for me.