Libertarians and the Minimum wage.

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You have it wrong. Min wadge artificially drives up costs. If you make min wadge at 4$ an hour and it never changes (the min wage never goes up) the cost of living more than likely won't go up. If you bump that min wadge up to 20$ an hour you will at some point be at the same situation you were at with 4$ an hour.


The argument about the min wadge is to get rid of it, if I can hire 2 people at 5$ rather than 10$ and get more hours covered then 2 people have a job and the cost of living has been held down.

See, everything is relative to min wage in this case. If you go from 10$ an hour and make MW 15 then everyone who was making 10.01 -14.99 just got a raise and ultimately took a pay cut. A year later 15$ an hour would be equivalent to 10$ an hour.

It's pretty basic stuff actually... But thanks for the picture made to make stupid people feel somehow morally superior despite that sort of thinking being one of the reasons we have mass UE and mass poverty.
 

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Let me add some perspective. I actually pay out around 16k a month is payroll at my business... If you get your way my payroll could jump from 16k a month to lets say 20k a month. That's 48k a year difference... Where does that come from? Either I raise rates, making the cost of living go up, or I close shop and eveyone that lost their job enjoys a 100% increase in cost of living thanks to.... well you.
 

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Seriously? We're arguing with a self-proclaimed Nazi?
 

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If burger flippers are going to be making $15 an hour, then the secretary currently making $12 an hour needs to have their pay increased to $20 an hour...it's not realistic for unincorporated businesses to sustain that sort of a hit.
 

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You have it wrong. Min wadge artificially drives up costs. If you make min wadge at 4$ an hour and it never changes (the min wage never goes up) the cost of living more than likely won't go up. If you bump that min wadge up to 20$ an hour you will at some point be at the same situation you were at with 4$ an hour.


The argument about the min wadge is to get rid of it, if I can hire 2 people at 5$ rather than 10$ and get more hours covered then 2 people have a job and the cost of living has been held down.

See, everything is relative to min wage in this case. If you go from 10$ an hour and make MW 15 then everyone who was making 10.01 -14.99 just got a raise and ultimately took a pay cut. A year later 15$ an hour would be equivalent to 10$ an hour.

It's pretty basic stuff actually... But thanks for the picture made to make stupid people feel somehow morally superior despite that sort of thinking being one of the reasons we have mass UE and mass poverty.
So those of us who make pre-tax 100K/year for the last 10 years and whose every expense has increased are doing fine?
No wonder I know dozens of professionals who haven't paid their mortgages since Sep 2008.
Of course, their Loan Modification process has to start from scratch every time the current lender sells the bad loan to another lender.
 

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Wages are only worth what your dollar is worth. If a policy causes inflation, then that means everyone's wages are worth less. Truth is that eliminating the minimum wage would only affect the 2% of workers who make at the minimum wage. However, it would also open up the labor market for low-skilled employees, who have taken a pretty big hit over the past few decades unemployment-wise, especially with the influx of illegal immigrants.
 
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Seriously? We're arguing with a self-proclaimed Nazi?
:lol::lol: I dunno why but that was funny to me

Anyways. Get rid of the minimum wage then bosses will literally pay as little as they possibly can to workers,workers have no choice but to accept it and try and live as best we can or revolt and take back the country from the republican/libertarians. They are the biggest threat to the poor in this country.
 

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Seriously? We're arguing with a self-proclaimed Nazi?
:lol::lol: I dunno why but that was funny to me

Anyways. Get rid of the minimum wage then bosses will literally pay as little as they possibly can to workers,workers have no choice but to accept it and try and live as best we can or revolt and take back the country from the republican/libertarians. They are the biggest threat to the poor in this country.
Wrong. A bigger threat to this country is policies that enslave people in generational welfare.
 
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Like minimum wages that people can't live off of. If it was up to republicans/libertarians they would do away with min wage and welfare and let the poor fight over the 1 and 2$ an hour jobs and let the rest die off. I am not stupid...I was once a libertarian I know how these people think and personally its fucking scary to ever think they could come close to power.
 
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Sorry can't admit something i'm not. Why would I admit I am a National Socialist but not a Fascist? LOL...that's silly. Fascism isn't inherently "racial" in any way..NS is. I believe in Socialist economy and Nationalism in life.
 

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Sorry can't admit something i'm not. Why would I admit I am a National Socialist but not a Fascist? LOL...that's silly. Fascism isn't inherently "racial" in any way..NS is. I believe in Socialist economy and Nationalism in life.
Got it! ;)
 
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Plus Fascism has no Socialist qualities to it. If I can remember correctly it allowed corporations to run free...look at a lot of my posts/threads I started I am very pro socialist anti capitalist.
 

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Seriously? We're arguing with a self-proclaimed Nazi?
:lol::lol: I dunno why but that was funny to me

Anyways. Get rid of the minimum wage then bosses will literally pay as little as they possibly can to workers,workers have no choice but to accept it and try and live as best we can or revolt and take back the country from the republican/libertarians. They are the biggest threat to the poor in this country.
You're ignorant or a liar.

Every single person that is making over MW is an example of where you are wrong. If someone is making 10.01-(any number you place here) then you are proven wrong. Unless you want to claim the boss is being forced to not only pay but employ that person.

No, but seriously... keep arguing rather than taking a moment to see how retarded you sound.
 

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Like minimum wages that people can't live off of. If it was up to republicans/libertarians they would do away with min wage and welfare and let the poor fight over the 1 and 2$ an hour jobs and let the rest die off. I am not stupid...I was once a libertarian I know how these people think and personally its fucking scary to ever think they could come close to power.
You were at no point in your entire life a libertarian.
 

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Plus Fascism has no Socialist qualities to it. If I can remember correctly it allowed corporations to run free...look at a lot of my posts/threads I started I am very pro socialist anti capitalist.
Of course you're anti capitalist, you have shown you have no clue what so ever as to how it works or what it is.
 

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Seriously? We're arguing with a self-proclaimed Nazi?
:lol::lol: I dunno why but that was funny to me

Anyways. Get rid of the minimum wage then bosses will literally pay as little as they possibly can to workers,workers have no choice but to accept it and try and live as best we can or revolt and take back the country from the republican/libertarians. They are the biggest threat to the poor in this country.
Wrong. A bigger threat to this country is policies that enslave people in generational welfare.
Abolishing the minimum wage will usher in a new Gilded Age.


"I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half." Jay Gould
 

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