100 Days of Spanberger - Virginia Healing From Years of a Leadership Vacuum

[citygator]

Let's see if your party means it when they get control of Congress again. People can talk big, but when they get the chance to actually do something...

This will need 60 votes in the senate. All democrats voted for this bill. None of the republicans did. Dems will need a senate super majority to outlaw gerrymandering.

 

[citygator]

All which just gives the illusion of removing partisan gerrymandering but still allows for it while giving the people implementing it the "non partisan" cover they want.

It's just too subjective and open to interpretation.

Its not. You didnt read it in the short time I posted it.

This bill is designed specifically to answer your objection by creating:

• a ranked list of map-drawing criteria,
• explicit prohibitions on partisan favoritism,
• measurable statistical thresholds,
• comparison to alternative maps,
• rebuttable presumptions,
• and judicial procedures for enforcement.

That is much more concrete than anything in place. Perfection can be the enemy of greatness but it gives courts the ammunition they need to keep them honest.

 

[hadit]

This will need 60 votes in the senate. All democrats voted for this bill. None of the republicans did. Dems will need a senate super majority to outlaw gerrymandering.

So, submit it as a clean bill and put Senators on record as opposing or supporting it. Simple. That won't happen because democrats are as dedicated to playing political games as they ever have been.

 

[citygator]

So, submit it as a clean bill and put Senators on record as opposing or supporting it. Simple. That won't happen because democrats are as dedicated to playing political games as they ever have been.

It was. The senate committee voted it down this time. The time before when democrats had both chambers it was introduced by democrats, made it out of committee, and was filibustered by republicans.

Look. The deal is, regardless what you think, gerrymandering heavily favors republicans so they wont support it. There is no downside for democrats because it would help them AND it is the right thing to do. For Republicans it would hurt them and it is the right thing to do. Obviously you know how that is going.

 

[martybegan]

Its not. You didnt read it in the short time I posted it.

This bill is designed specifically to answer your objection by creating:

• a ranked list of map-drawing criteria,
• explicit prohibitions on partisan favoritism,
• measurable statistical thresholds,
• comparison to alternative maps,
• rebuttable presumptions,
• and judicial procedures for enforcement.

That is much more concrete than anything in place. Perfection can be the enemy of greatness but it gives courts the ammunition they need to keep them honest.

Words, nothing more.

Dems would cheat and game the system to get what they have now, but in more States.

The other thing is counting illegals in the census, which gives Dems even more voting power.

It's article V time.

 

[citygator]

Words, nothing more.

Dems would cheat and game the system to get what they have now, but in more States.

The other thing is counting illegals in the census, which gives Dems even more voting power.

It's article V time.

I dont think you have an interest in the discussion. I think you just oppose anything the democrats propose because the republicans tell you to. Have you ever read the Dr Seuss story the Star Belly Sneeches?

Trump and the GOP are dishing out Stars for your bellies.

 

[martybegan]

I dont think you have an interest in the discussion. I think you just oppose anything the democrats propose because the republicans tell you to. Have you ever read the Dr Seuss story the Star Belly Sneeches?

Trump and the GOP are dishing out Stars for your bellies.

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You aren't interested in being truthful. You know the whole "non partisan" thing is a sham.

The only true fix is voting by lists.

 

[hadit]

You aren't interested in being truthful. You know the whole "non partisan" thing is a sham.

The only true fix is voting by lists.

Just like the "temporary" Virginia redistricting plan is. There will be some dreadful reason why they can't go back after the elections, probably because too many Republicans get elected or some such BS.