Libertarianism Is A Joke

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Has this form of government been successfully practiced anywhere? If so, where?

Here's a conversation featuring a Libertarian that shows why it's such a failure...



Once you've seen this, let's discuss.

Wonder if any libertarians think we planted a flag on Mars....
Wonder how many think Guam will tip over....


Seems pretty clear to me which political affiliation has all the COMPLETE RETARDS IN IT.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Has this form of government been successfully practiced anywhere? If so, where?

Here's a conversation featuring a Libertarian that shows why it's such a failure...



Once you've seen this, let's discuss.

Everything that challenges your worldview is a joke, isn't it?

 

[g5000]

All we need to do to make Social Security solvent is raise the eligibility age to 70, and index the retirement age to 9 percent of the population going forward.

That's. It.

Or raise the earnings cap -- that way we need not to expect people to work til they are 70 and beyond before they can retire.

We are living decades longer than our ancestors who established Social Security. It is simple common sense we should be working longer.

Sooner or later, this fact will become unavoidable.

 

[g5000]

I'm not watching a 30 minute video, so hard to say if the speaker is actually a libertarian anyway.

The libertarian in the video is a guy who parrots bumper sticker catch phrases, and has obviously never put any effort into actually thinking about the principles behind the slogans he spews.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Progressives like Marc live in a binary world. If you aren't one of them you are an enemy and an inferior.

Listen to the debate, then respond with where the Libertarian and the progressive were right and/or wrong.

This is rich. A radical Leftist mocking other radicals. Only in America.

 

[xyz]

Feudal Europe was pretty close. In most cases they just had to contribute a bit of money to the central state, maybe soldiers, depending on need, although if the state was really weak there wasn't much they could do about it.

In everything else the local feudal lords controlled everything, even pretty much owning the peasants.

I know of some libertarians who were saying we need to get rid of police and just use local vigilante groups.

 

[MarcATL]

Nothing, it's a silly talk show call in video with a bunch of hamsters trying to create an infotainment piece to feed the confirmation bias of a target audience and given your reaction, it worked.

If you want to learn about libertarianism, read the works of serious libertarians, if you want to be an ignorant sheeple keep letting videos like this one formulate your opinions for you.

Address my entire OP.

Where has libertarianism worked in the world?

Point me to a country where it has.

Been there, done that... you still don't get the fact that libertarianism isn't a form of government nor has it dawned on you that most people in the world already operate by the non-aggression principle in their dealings with other individuals, which means they share foundational principles with libertarians, even if they don't realize it.

Apparently the matchbook cover you received your political science and philosophy education from didn't include that part.

Do yourself a favor stop relying on YouTube to expand your horizons and pick up a book, preferably one that isn't designed to reinforce your strongly held opinions about the world.

"Libertarianism holds that the only proper role of violence is to defend person and property against violence, that any use of violence that goes beyond such just defense is itself aggressive, unjust, and criminal" -- Murray N. Rothbard

So basically, it hasn't worked anywhere in the world.

Got it.

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[MarcATL]

Progressives like Marc live in a binary world. If you aren't one of them you are an enemy and an inferior.

Listen to the debate, then respond with where the Libertarian and the progressive were right and/or wrong.

This is rich. A radical Leftist mocking other radicals. Only in America.

Very cogent argument you got there.

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[AzogtheDefiler]

Progressives like Marc live in a binary world. If you aren't one of them you are an enemy and an inferior.

Listen to the debate, then respond with where the Libertarian and the progressive were right and/or wrong.

This is rich. A radical Leftist mocking other radicals. Only in America.

Very cogent argument you got there.

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It was not an argument it was me mocking you. Poke successful. Your hero is a terrorist fool.

 

[ptbw forever]

Has this form of government been successfully practiced anywhere? If so, where?

Here's a conversation featuring a Libertarian that shows why it's such a failure...



Once you've seen this, let's discuss.

Seder lost that debate, moron.

He has no fix for the eventual insolvency of social security. Millennials like me are not going to get anything from social security.

 

[Kosh]

Well it is a proven fact that socialism does not work anywhere, but the far left seems to keep pushing it.

 

[ptbw forever]

Has this form of government been successfully practiced anywhere? If so, where?

Here's a conversation featuring a Libertarian that shows why it's such a failure...



Once you've seen this, let's discuss.

USA used to be libertarian and got much ahead of Europe regardless of worse demographics.

Sam Seder is one of the biggest morons I have ever seen open his mouth. Just look at this embarrassment:



Even so, regardless whether we know about the quirks of libertariansim, we know that socialism fails every time.

the US was never libertarian --- but its ok if you want to make up that fantasy..

and if you think Sam is a moron, that is ok too --- I already know why you think that, which makes you more of the moron -- were you on the side of the "master race" caller?

The US didn't even use to have public education.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The Union used to be voluntary before Lincoln came along.

 

[Kosh]

What is so funny about threads like this, especially by those on the far left, is that they show they only know far left religious dogma and not actual fact or history.

"Libertarian" came to mean an advocate or defender of liberty, especially in the political and social spheres, as early as 1796, when the London Packet printed on 12 February: "Lately marched out of the Prison at Bristol, 450 of the French Libertarians."

Man to watch these far left drones attack it, just goes to show how far out of touch they have become with reality.

 

[NightFox]

Nothing, it's a silly talk show call in video with a bunch of hamsters trying to create an infotainment piece to feed the confirmation bias of a target audience and given your reaction, it worked.

If you want to learn about libertarianism, read the works of serious libertarians, if you want to be an ignorant sheeple keep letting videos like this one formulate your opinions for you.

Address my entire OP.

Where has libertarianism worked in the world?

Point me to a country where it has.

Been there, done that... you still don't get the fact that libertarianism isn't a form of government nor has it dawned on you that most people in the world already operate by the non-aggression principle in their dealings with other individuals, which means they share foundational principles with libertarians, even if they don't realize it.

Apparently the matchbook cover you received your political science and philosophy education from didn't include that part.

Do yourself a favor stop relying on YouTube to expand your horizons and pick up a book, preferably one that isn't designed to reinforce your strongly held opinions about the world.

"Libertarianism holds that the only proper role of violence is to defend person and property against violence, that any use of violence that goes beyond such just defense is itself aggressive, unjust, and criminal" -- Murray N. Rothbard

So basically, it hasn't worked anywhere in the world.

Got it.

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Uh-huh, I see you'd rather try your hand at building straw men than learn something, that attitude definitely explains your ignorance.

… feel free to continue with your silly critique of things you clearly do not understand and will likely never understand.

Ciao

 

[flacaltenn]

Has this form of government been successfully practiced anywhere? If so, where?

Here's a conversation featuring a Libertarian that shows why it's such a failure...



Once you've seen this, let's discuss.

Have no idea what set you off here about Libertarian policy and philosophy. Basing what you know about the Lib Party on two guys having a rambling conversation isn't really helpful knowledge. The CONSERVATIVE in the discussion was airing HIS beefs about seniors getting rich on Soc Sec because Conservatives HATE the competition from the Lib Party.

Here's the facts and basics.

1) If you're interested in Civil Rights, you need to realize that the LARGER category is Civil Liberties. Which includes MORE than just group rights given by law. It includes EVERYTHING that keeps you from govt abuse. It's more important to pay attention to the LARGER universe of Civil Liberties -- because without those -- a Civil Right given to a group is useless if the general laws of search/seizure/surveillance/asset forfeiture are being violated.

So -- there ARE NOT Civil Libertarians in the 2 major parties parties anymore. No champions for protecting those liberties like there were in the past save maybe ONE or TWO Congressional leaders that speak out on these issues. I used to have about 10 that I admired. THey are all gone. The ONLY party that puts Civil Liberties/Civil Right front and center are Libertarians. THEY are making proposals on Justice Reform, ending Domestic Spying on Americans, Asset Forfeiture, and others.

We've been right on ALL our issues (with the exception of immigration) for DECADES before America agreed with us.

Right on non-interference in the Middle East
Right on School reform and choice.
Right on ending the war on Marijuana.
Right on Medical Saving Accounts.
And many other LIBERTARIAN initiatives that we pushed.

We've been PUMMELED and ridicule for most of these stances UNTIL America found out we were correct all along.. We were called "****** lovers" for our 1st Presidential nominee who was openly gay in the 70s and the MOST QUALIFIED to run for that position. We were called "dopers" for advocating a truce to the Drug Wars and Marijuana legalization decades ago. We were called "dirty dove traitors" for opposing bombing of 6 or 8 Arab countries a year. We were called "terrorist lovers" for opposing that massive NSA \Big Brother Spy Machine that you bought them after 9/11 to let the Intel Agencies who were banned from Domestic spying operations since the 70s to once again on a HUMONGOUS scale to collect and store every electronic communication in America in some form.

Right now -- that LAST call is becoming obvious to Americans as they find out how that system was ABUSED and turned into a political weapon by a bunch of Uber-Partisans in the upper appointed levels of Govt.

What's your problem actually??

 

[flacaltenn]

I never understood their anti abortion stance . I thought they were ANYTHING GOES !

There IS no anti-abortion policy in the Libertarian Party. The policy is CHOICE. We recognize that we need to tolerate behaviors and choices that sometime appall some of us. Because that's the basis of Freedom.

The working policies on abortion are simply to LIMIT the govt funding of the practice. Not in favor of taking a LEGAL side on the issue.

 

[flacaltenn]

I never understood their anti abortion stance .

There is no libertarian stance on abortion, some libertarians are "pro-choice", some are "pro life" and some don't give a flying **** about the issue , it depends on how the individual libertarian interprets the application of the non-aggression principle to the question.

I thought they were ANYTHING GOES !

As usual Timmy you thought wrong.

Hey! “anything goes “ would be a great libertarian slogan!

Already done. The unofficial "motto" is we're "pro-choice on basically everything". You need a higher bar for nannies and naggers to snag the power of govt to make people CONFORM to their norms.

See EVERYTHING that the govt of California is now focused on. Like their "plastic straw" bans and registering folks who are not legal residents to dilute your votes.

 

[Siete]

What is so funny about threads like this, especially by those on the far left, is that they show they only know far left religious dogma and not actual fact or history.

"Libertarian" came to mean an advocate or defender of liberty, especially in the political and social spheres, as early as 1796, when the London Packet printed on 12 February: "Lately marched out of the Prison at Bristol, 450 of the French Libertarians."

Man to watch these far left drones attack it, just goes to show how far out of touch they have become with reality.

1796 ?????????

F ast forward to 2018 and get back with us

 

[flacaltenn]

All we need to do to make Social Security solvent is raise the eligibility age to 70, and index the retirement age to 9 percent of the population going forward.

That's. It.

Great. Nothing better than watching 70 yr old roofers or truck drivers collapse on the job. Thanks for "the fix".

Others not so brilliant ideas to completely fix the now totally empty SSec Trust Fund is raising the caps on FICA levels. This is a sure way to tell all of America that the govt can't be trusted with anything "Universal". Because raising the caps would make it welfare for some and redistribution for most of the others.

Libertarian solution was to USE the SS Surplus -- when there WAS a SS surplus -- to offset letting folks opt out of a portion of their FICA contributions in exchange for REDUCED future payments. But Demos decided to kill that idea and let Congress continue to rob the surplus blind with nothing of value put into the "trust fund".