Liberation of Iraq saved almost 1,000,000 kids from starving!!!

[healthmyths]

The sanctions against Iraq were a near-total financial and trade embargo imposed by the United Nations Security Council on the nation of Iraq. They began August 6, 1990, four days after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, stayed largely in force until May 2003 (after Saddam Hussein's being forced from power),...
Estimates of excess deaths of children during the sanctions range from 100,000 to over 500,000.
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an average of almost 40,000 children a year which if the Liberation had not happened as of today Saddam's refusal to obey the sanctions would have starved nearly 1 million children !
If Iraq hadn't been liberated in less then 6 weeks, 28 million would still be captive and one million kids starved!

"Some persons, such as Walter Russell Mead, accepted a large estimate of casualties due to sanctions, but argued that invading Iraq was better than continuing the sanctions regime, since "Each year of containment is a new Gulf War." Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in his testimony to the Chilcot Inquiry, also argued that ending sanctions was one benefit of the war."
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Responding to a hate thread by creating another thread on the same subject?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The sanctions against Iraq were a near-total financial and trade embargo imposed by the United Nations Security Council on the nation of Iraq. They began August 6, 1990, four days after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, stayed largely in force until May 2003 (after Saddam Hussein's being forced from power),...
Estimates of excess deaths of children during the sanctions range from 100,000 to over 500,000.
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an average of almost 40,000 children a year which if the Liberation had not happened as of today Saddam's refusal to obey the sanctions would have starved nearly 1 million children !
If Iraq hadn't been liberated in less then 6 weeks, 28 million would still be captive and one million kids starved!

"Some persons, such as Walter Russell Mead, accepted a large estimate of casualties due to sanctions, but argued that invading Iraq was better than continuing the sanctions regime, since "Each year of containment is a new Gulf War." Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in his testimony to the Chilcot Inquiry, also argued that ending sanctions was one benefit of the war."
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you trade your life to save a million starving kids in Africa?

 

[healthmyths]

Responding to a hate thread by creating another thread on the same subject?

The same subject? Iraq was liberated. Like Europe,etc.. and the USA helped!
Helping saving 1 million kids from starvation IS NOT A HATE thread!
I mean you have NOT refuted the fact supported by a Harvard study that when these statements were made these statements Helped the terrorists?
I mean you and other traitors obviously supported the "TRUTH" these traitors were spouting regardless of how the enemies
were emboldened to MORE violence!
It forever amazes me that people like you have NO dispute that advertising works.. why else would $500 billion every year be spent by companies, people,etc. ADVERTISING!!!
The below are 30 second sound bites that repeated frequently and widely (i.e. advertising???) were encouraging to the enemy!
During WWI and WWII MSM was smart enough NOT to publish widely and broadly statements like the below and more importantly leaders during that time were also smart enough NOT to denigrate the troops, the USA and encourage the enemy by "telling the truth" that our military with planning and forethought methodically air-raided villages killing civilians!

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything " 40,800 Google results

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
39,600 Google results
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." 92,500 Google results

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. 127,000 Google results
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians," 94,300 Google results

So Iraq deaths and cost continued because the above remarks HELPED ONLY the terrorists and they were emboldened to prolong!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I didn't say YOUR thread was a hate thread. I said it was a response to the other thread which is clearly about stirring up shit. All you've done is fueled the troll.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Show categorically that 1mm kids were starving before the invasion.

 

[Old Rocks]

Iraq will go down as the greatest US blunder. Simple as that. All the bullshit such as the OP will not change that one whit. We will have spent 3 trillion and 4500 American lives to accomplish nothing at all. They are still killing each other with enthusiasm, and it is a less stable nation, and more in line with Iran, than it was under Saddam.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The sanctions against Iraq were a near-total financial and trade embargo imposed by the United Nations Security Council on the nation of Iraq. They began August 6, 1990, four days after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, stayed largely in force until May 2003 (after Saddam Hussein's being forced from power),...
Estimates of excess deaths of children during the sanctions range from 100,000 to over 500,000.
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an average of almost 40,000 children a year which if the Liberation had not happened as of today Saddam's refusal to obey the sanctions would have starved nearly 1 million children !
If Iraq hadn't been liberated in less then 6 weeks, 28 million would still be captive and one million kids starved!

"Some persons, such as Walter Russell Mead, accepted a large estimate of casualties due to sanctions, but argued that invading Iraq was better than continuing the sanctions regime, since "Each year of containment is a new Gulf War." Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in his testimony to the Chilcot Inquiry, also argued that ending sanctions was one benefit of the war."
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you trade your life to save a million starving kids in Africa?

Apparently that answer is 'no'.

Next question:

Would you trade another 4000 American soldiers' lives to save a million starving kids in Africa?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If the sanctions and starving Iraqis were the issue, why not lift the sanctions, instead of starting a war?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Show categorically that 1mm kids were starving before the invasion.

^^^^bump

 

[BlindBoo]

The sanctions should have been lifted, and the invasion and occupation should never have occured.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I assume the OP thus supports lifting the sanctions on Iran, North Korea, Cuba, etc.,

for the sake of their children.

...or not...

 

[healthmyths]

Show categorically that 1mm kids were starving before the invasion.

Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports
By BARBARA CROSSETTE
Published: December 01, 1995
As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
BEFORE THE LIBERATION!!!

Now if American troops hadn't liberated Iraq in 2003 and Saddam was still in power there would be another 1,440,000!

Now what were you saying???

 

[healthmyths]

Iraq will go down as the greatest US blunder. Simple as that. All the bullshit such as the OP will not change that one whit. We will have spent 3 trillion and 4500 American lives to accomplish nothing at all. They are still killing each other with enthusiasm, and it is a less stable nation, and more in line with Iran, than it was under Saddam.

So saving 1,440,000 Iraqi children from starving was not worth it?

Where is your compassion? Where is YOUR f...king ANGER at these DICKS that encouraged the Terrorists to KILL more troops and cost more money??
Why is it the fault of Bush/US CONGRESS these 32 democrats for wanting to get rid of a asshole like these guys who recruited probably with these statements more terrorists that put bombs on kids that went off when getting candy from our guys???
STATEMENTS LIKES are proven to have prolonged the conflict !
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything " 40,800 Google results

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
39,600 Google results
Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children." 92,500 Google results

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners. 127,000 Google results
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians," 94,300 Google results

So Iraq deaths and cost continued because the above remarks HELPED ONLY the terrorists and they were emboldened to prolong!
92% of Americans were happy GWB was there telling us he would not forget.. obviously idiots like you have!!

32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.



"Between 1999 and 2001, the U.S. and British-led air forces in Iraq dropped 1.3 million pounds of bombs in response to purported violations of the no-fly zones and anti-aircraft fire from Saddam Hussein.

A sweeping attack, conducted in January of 1999, rained down 25 missiles on Iraqi soil, killing civilians. Clinton said the attack was in response to four planes violating the no-fly zones.

Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair authorized air strikes on more than 100 days in 1999, sometimes several times per day. The bombings were ostensibly in response to Husseins refusal to allow UN weapons inspectors into the country, though critics alleged the move was aimed at deflecting attention from impeachment.
The Raw Story | Clinton bombing of Iraq far exceeded Bush's in run-up to war; Bush 'spikes of activity' questioned


So once again PROVEN that you idiots are just that... PLEASE for once admit you are fuckking stupid!

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Yes, they were liberated from starvation by being blown up. How humanitarian.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Show categorically that 1mm kids were starving before the invasion.

Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports
By BARBARA CROSSETTE
Published: December 01, 1995
As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
BEFORE THE LIBERATION!!!

Now if American troops hadn't liberated Iraq in 2003 and Saddam was still in power there would be another 1,440,000!

Now what were you saying???

You are quoting a journalist for four years. Give us the evidence for the next eight years. Give us solid facts, not assertions.

And be honest enough to admit that Bush did use the children as reason to invade. He wanted the WMDs.

 

[healthmyths]

Show categorically that 1mm kids were starving before the invasion.

Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports
By BARBARA CROSSETTE
Published: December 01, 1995
As many as 576,000 Iraqi children may have died since the end of the Persian Gulf war because of economic sanctions imposed by the Security Council, according to two scientists who surveyed the country for the Food and Agriculture Organization.
Iraq Sanctions Kill Children, U.N. Reports - NYTimes.com

So the war ended in 1991 and 4 years later 576,000 Iraqi children died or about 144,000 a year.
From 1995 to 2003 is 8 years at the rate of 144,000 starving children a year that would be 1,152,000 starved and dead children from 1995 to 2003
BEFORE THE LIBERATION!!!

Now if American troops hadn't liberated Iraq in 2003 and Saddam was still in power there would be another 1,440,000!

Now what were you saying???

You are quoting a journalist for four years. Give us the evidence for the next eight years. Give us solid facts, not assertions.

And be honest enough to admit that Bush did use the children as reason to invade. He wanted the WMDs.

Hey.. 4 years 144,000 a year! What would have changed from 1995 to 2003? Embargo still in place!

AND YOU want "facts"???
How about these quotes of people privy to more information then you or I had BEFORE 2003!

All these people LIKE Bush but ONLY one person with the balls to do something!
And in Iraq... YOUR Democrat leaders BEGGING that Iraq be liberated!
32 democrat quotes indicate even before GWB that Saddam was a threat!
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.

So again.. with all these people with more information then you or me what would you do after Saddam gassed his own people?
After Saddam could have saved 1 million children from starving simply by obeying the sanctions and yet you blame the USA/Bush?

This is truly a f..kedup world we live in when the truly bad guys like Saddam are exculpated for murder and people like you accuse Bush who was
trying to save people and freeing 28 million from further oppression and starvation... and you defend Saddam!

 

[NYcarbineer]

The sanctions against Iraq were a near-total financial and trade embargo imposed by the United Nations Security Council on the nation of Iraq. They began August 6, 1990, four days after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, stayed largely in force until May 2003 (after Saddam Hussein's being forced from power),...
Estimates of excess deaths of children during the sanctions range from 100,000 to over 500,000.
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an average of almost 40,000 children a year which if the Liberation had not happened as of today Saddam's refusal to obey the sanctions would have starved nearly 1 million children !
If Iraq hadn't been liberated in less then 6 weeks, 28 million would still be captive and one million kids starved!

"Some persons, such as Walter Russell Mead, accepted a large estimate of casualties due to sanctions, but argued that invading Iraq was better than continuing the sanctions regime, since "Each year of containment is a new Gulf War." Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in his testimony to the Chilcot Inquiry, also argued that ending sanctions was one benefit of the war."
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Would you trade your life to save a million starving kids in Africa?

Apparently that answer is 'no'.

Next question:

Would you trade another 4000 American soldiers' lives to save a million starving kids in Africa?

And apparently the answer to that is also 'no',

so this idiot healthmyths has admitted he doesn't believe his own bullshit.

 

[Billo_Really]

The sanctions against Iraq were a near-total financial and trade embargo imposed by the United Nations Security Council on the nation of Iraq. They began August 6, 1990, four days after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, stayed largely in force until May 2003 (after Saddam Hussein's being forced from power),...
Estimates of excess deaths of children during the sanctions range from 100,000 to over 500,000.
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an average of almost 40,000 children a year which if the Liberation had not happened as of today Saddam's refusal to obey the sanctions would have starved nearly 1 million children !
If Iraq hadn't been liberated in less then 6 weeks, 28 million would still be captive and one million kids starved!

"Some persons, such as Walter Russell Mead, accepted a large estimate of casualties due to sanctions, but argued that invading Iraq was better than continuing the sanctions regime, since "Each year of containment is a new Gulf War." Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, in his testimony to the Chilcot Inquiry, also argued that ending sanctions was one benefit of the war."
Sanctions against Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

People like you stood by and said nothing while Hitler was consolidating power and taking Germany from a democratic state to a dictatorship.

Because protesting their military at the time was un-patriotic, right?

 

[bucs90]

Awesome!

I wonder how many hungry American kids we could've fed had we spent the Iraq War billions....on American kids instead?

Just wondering out loud.