Liberals sue to stop children from learning about God

[RoshawnMarkwees]

"Religion is essentially speech."
So, is people rejecting having it forced on the by the government in public school. Freedom of Religion definitely include the freedom to choose not to participate in religion in public schools.

Religion being forced by the government has nothing to do with ‘freedom from religion‘.

 

[White 6]

Religion being forced by the government has nothing to do with ‘freedom from religion‘.

How do you figure? Most of us did not attend public school with a trump bible in every class and force morning prayer or required religious classes. Are you saying, that should be changed to agree with your religious training, and do away with freedom of religion?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

How do you figure? Most of us did not attend public school with a trump bible in every class and force morning prayer or required religious classes. Are you saying, that should be changed to agree with your religious training, and do away with freedom of religion?

Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.

 

[White 6]

Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.

So, they are free to pick their religion, as long as it is a religion. Only choosing not to believe in a deity is forbidden, in your world? Sorry. You can't force people to worship what they believe is a false god, right or wrong, or even to be forced to sit through your training, at a public school.

 

[el midgetron]

Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.

He is absolutely correct. Freedom of religion does not mean the government is going to shield you from religion. It just means the government will not mandate religion upon you.

 

[Baron]

Of course children should be taught about God.

You betcha LGBTQ agenda is more welcome for liberals

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

He is absolutely correct. Freedom of religion does not mean the government is going to shield you from religion. It just means the government will not mandate religion upon you.

And what the hell do you think that distributing and teaching the bible in public schools do? Listen to yourself.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.

Actually that is EXACTLY what it is

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Republicans have God on their side, they will win.

It's amazing how the most racist, hate filled folks in the history of this country are always talking about how they love God.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Children should be taught the truth, and the truth is there is one God who created heaven and earth.

The state religion of atheism teaches that man comes from atoms from chemical reactions alone, which is a fallacy and lie.

Everyone believes there is one God, the problem comes in when you start teaching about God.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

So, they are free to pick their religion, as long as it is a religion. Only choosing not to believe in a deity is forbidden, in your world? Sorry. You can't force people to worship what they believe is a false god, right or wrong, or even to be forced to sit through your training, at a public school.

Nobody is forcing worship with freedom of religion. Freedom from religion would outlaw religious demonstration and display. Your idea is unconstitutional.

 

[hjmick]

Of course children should be taught about God. Yet these liberals want to deny our children the opportunity to learn about God. Our Founding Fathers must be turning over in their graves.

---A group of Oklahoma parents of public school students, teachers and ministers filed a lawsuit Thursday seeking to stop the state's top education official from forcing schools to incorporate the Bible into lesson plans for students in grades 5 through 12.---

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Not in public schools as mandatory. An elective course in religious studies, all religions, fine. Otherwise send your little rugrats to a religious school. No one has any right to impose their religious beliefs on others.

 

[el midgetron]

And what the hell do you think that distributing and teaching the bible in public schools do? Listen to yourself.

In just that context, I would be totally fine with it. That’s what they are supposed to do in schools, teach about stuff. Force the kids to pray? I don’t think that would be right. But I also think if kids want to pray in school, they should be accommodated.

Not sure where kids are being given Bible in schools like you claim anyway. Other than these isolated incidences liberal freak out about. I was never giving one K-12.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

In just that context, I would be totally fine with it. That’s what they are supposed to do in schools, teach about stuff. Force the kids to pray? I don’t think that would be right. But I also think if kids want to pray in school, they should be accommodated.

Not sure where kids are being given Bible in schools like you claim anyway. Other than these isolated incidences liberal freak out about. I was never giving one K-12.

You can be sure none of the leftoids would say a word if Koran’s were distributed instead of bibles in public schools. (My spell-checker just capitalized Koran but not bible — twice)
Partly because they don’t want to be blown up.

 

[Captain Caveman]

So that's not answer. That's an excuse for you not having any answer as to how religion makes us safer.

How then can you come to the conclusion that we'll be safer, conflict wise, if we force religion onto people, when you don't know how religion prevents wars....or evidence to support your conclusion?

It sounds like you have a hypothesis though. And a desire for honest research. That's a great place to start. But your conclusion would come after the research.

No one is forcing religion onto you, it's in the same boat as maths, science, English etc.. it's a subject simply taught in school. I remember in assembly at the start of the school day included a hymn. I didn't feel under duress.

 

[braalian]

No one is forcing religion onto you, it's in the same boat as maths, science, English etc.. it's a subject simply taught in school. I remember in assembly at the start of the school day included a hymn. I didn't feel under duress.

You can teach about religion, as a general topic.

But a public school cannot promote any one particular religion.

It’s not that complicated or radical a concept

If you want your kid to receive an education that promotes Christianity then send him to a Christian school. No one’s stopping you

 

[Captain Caveman]

You can teach about religion, as a general topic.

But a public school cannot promote any one particular religion.

It’s not that complicated or radical a concept

If you want your kid to receive an education that promotes Christianity then send him to a Christian school. No one’s stopping you

In the UK, the religion is Christianity, so that's what was taught. I imagine an Islamic state would teach Islam. The weak countries would cry about religion, like America, and will want to include them all so they feel they're being heroes.

 

[braalian]

In the UK, the religion is Christianity, so that's what was taught. I imagine an Islamic state would teach Islam. The weak countries would cry about religion, like America, and will want to include them all so they feel they're being heroes.

The Church of England has never had less influence on the people than now

Didn’t your King himself say he wants to be the “defender of faith” and not the “defender of THE faith”?

Removing the “the” from that title is significant.

 

[Skylar]

No one is forcing religion onto you, it's in the same boat as maths, science, English etc.. it's a subject simply taught in school. I remember in assembly at the start of the school day included a hymn. I didn't feel under duress.

If you're forcing kids to do bible study in public school, you're forcing your religion on them.

If it were Muslims forcing your kids to study the Quran in school 'as a subject', y'all would be shitting your pants.

If you're ever curious why self identification as Christian and participation rates among Christians is absolutely cratering, this is one of the reasons. And the more people are turned off by the coercive tactics of Christians, the more Christians seem to feel the need to be coersive.

Its a viscious downward spiral.......all because Christians abandoned radical love for authority and coercive control.

 

[Arlette]

Nobody is forcing worship with freedom of religion. Freedom from religion would outlaw religious demonstration and display. Your idea is unconstitutional.

Oklahoma tries to groom children into the Jesus cult.