Liberals Bet They Could Beat Trump With the Law. They Lost.

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They made things worse for themselves, they made Trump stronger.
The left weaponized the justice system. Take the New York case. They retroactively extended the statute of limitations just to go after Trump. Then they took a misdemeanor and expanded it into 34 felonies, for a business entry dispute. Finally, they used that as pretense to go after his entire business empire. Millions of Americans were horrified at what they saw. And it backfired badly on the Dems.
Thank you Dems.
The years long effort to vanquish Donald Trump in court was a dismal failure.

For liberals like me, it may be tempting to attribute the collapse of the various cases against him to convenient explanations of process or personnel. The more uncomfortable truth is that our search for political salvation primarily through the law has backfired. To oppose Mr. Trump in his second term, liberals must learn the lesson of this defeat, which is that there is no alternative to persuading our fellow citizens of our beliefs.

For decades, liberals have made the mistake of prioritizing legal victories over popular ones. It was a method of prolonging the civil rights movement even after its opponents assembled a majority to halt it. Fifty years ago, Richard Nixon’s four Supreme Court appointments — Mr. Trump got only three — shoved the court right and consigned liberals to damage control. While liberals saw breakthroughs afterward for women and L.G.B.T.Q. people, delivering progress more quickly than elections could, they failed to stop the conservative drift of American law.

A few victories made it easy for liberals to forget that the law is just another domain of politics where their enemies enjoy power too. They talked of law as a matter of principle, ignoring that their movement had mainly treated it as a weapon for legalistic political change. Legalism’s greatest theorist, Judith Shklar, defined it as the adoption of an ethics of rule-following and defended it as a useful strategy. Along the way, you claim that the rules are on your side and impose them on your political enemies, and sometimes yourself, because the results are good ones.

The trouble is that they regularly aren’t. In this election, legalistic tactics contributed to Mr. Trump’s victory, helping to produce the popular majority he had never boasted before. For all of Mr. Trump’s misdeeds, prosecuting them was not worth the cost of restoring him to power.


 
The Law can move glacially slow.

It was not Liberals demanding Trump not be above the law.

Nobody was trying to "beat" Trump using the law.


djt, announced his campaign for the 2024 U.S. presidential election on November 15, 2022: Trump was under criminal investigations and leading to indictments before he decided to run .

March 30, 2022: The FBI opens a criminal investigation into unlawful retention of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.

June 3, 2022: In response to a grand jury subpoena, Trump provides 38 more documents with classification markings.

June-December 2022: The U.S. House committee investigating Jan. 6 holds 10 live televised hearings documenting its findings. The panel focuses on Trump’s efforts to overturn the election.

Aug. 8, 2022: The FBI searches Mar-a-Lago and recovers 108 more classified documents.

Nov. 15, 2022: Trump announces he is a candidate for president in 2024.
 
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They made things worse for themselves, they made Trump stronger.
The left weaponized the justice system. Take the New York case. They retroactively extended the statute of limitations just to go after Trump. Then they took a misdemeanor and expanded it into 34 felonies, for a business entry dispute. Finally, they used that as pretense to go after his entire business empire.

As usual, this drivel from the NYT attempts to see their failure to get Trump as a PROCESS error instead of an error of PURPOSE.
Now a precedent has been set-- when Trump gets in, he needs to hire attorneys to go through the lives of Smith, Bragg, James, Engoron and Willis, find an angle, weaponize it, and use it to tear their lives to shreds, so badly that no one will ever dare use the law as a weapon thusly ever again.
 
The Law can move glacially slow.

It was not Liberals demanding Trump not be above the law.

Nobody was trying to "beat" Trump using the law.


djt, announced his campaign for the 2024 U.S. presidential election on November 15, 2022: Trump was under criminal investigations and leading to indictments before he decided to run .

March 30, 2022: The FBI opens a criminal investigation into unlawful retention of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.

June 3, 2022: In response to a grand jury subpoena, Trump provides 38 more documents with classification markings.

June-December 2022: The U.S. House committee investigating Jan. 6 holds 10 live televised hearings documenting its findings. The panel focuses on Trump’s efforts to overturn the election.

Aug. 8, 2022: The FBI searches Mar-a-Lago and recovers 108 more classified documents.

Nov. 15, 2022: Trump announces he is a candidate for president in 2024.

"Nobody was trying to "beat" Trump using the law."?

Oh please! You actually believe that?
 
They made things worse for themselves, they made Trump stronger.
The left weaponized the justice system. Take the New York case. They retroactively extended the statute of limitations just to go after Trump. Then they took a misdemeanor and expanded it into 34 felonies, for a business entry dispute. Finally, they used that as pretense to go after his entire business empire. Millions of Americans were horrified at what they saw. And it backfired badly on the Dems.
Thank you Dems.



I don't know if Trump would have even been elected in 2016 but for democrats. It's certainly true in 2024. The greatest statistic I have seen is exit polls from this election where, out of the voters who said their number one reason for voting was to save democracy, 60% of them voted for Trump.
 
As usual, this drivel from the NYT attempts to see their failure to get Trump as a PROCESS error instead of an error of PURPOSE.
Now a precedent has been set-- when Trump gets in, he needs to hire attorneys to go through the lives of Smith, Bragg, James, Engoron and Willis, find an angle, weaponize it, and use it to tear their lives to shreds, so badly that no one will ever dare use the law as a weapon thusly ever again.
The orange bag O' has been using judicial misconduct to avoid accountability his whole life. :dunno: What's good for the goose...

There will come a time when using the legal means within our system of justice will be ignored for more... personal, permanent methods of retribution for avoiding accountability.
 
The Law can move glacially slow.

It was not Liberals demanding Trump not be above the law.

Nobody was trying to "beat" Trump using the law.


djt, announced his campaign for the 2024 U.S. presidential election on November 15, 2022: Trump was under criminal investigations and leading to indictments before he decided to run .

March 30, 2022: The FBI opens a criminal investigation into unlawful retention of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.

June 3, 2022: In response to a grand jury subpoena, Trump provides 38 more documents with classification markings.

June-December 2022: The U.S. House committee investigating Jan. 6 holds 10 live televised hearings documenting its findings. The panel focuses on Trump’s efforts to overturn the election.

Aug. 8, 2022: The FBI searches Mar-a-Lago and recovers 108 more classified documents.

Nov. 15, 2022: Trump announces he is a candidate for president in 2024.

The problem is, as I've said before, not what Trump is accused of doing. It's what BIDEN is accused of doing and NOBODY WENT AFTER HIM. He was found incompetent to stand trial for the EXACT SAME CHARGE Trump was charged with.

The double standard is what America has had enough of. We all saw the boxes of illegally stolen classified documents in Biden's garage behind his Corvette. Yet, he NEVER got in trouble for stealing them. Why is that?

All the right wants is EQUAL justice. Not BIASED justice that ONLY goes after Republicans. NO, that shit ain't gonna fly. Can you imagine if a DA ran, and was elected, based on a "Get Biden" platform even without having seen one bit of proof that he committed any crimes? The left would go APESHIT over that. But that's EXACTLY what one of DA's going after Trump ran on, AND WAS ELECTED on. It's lawfare, plain and simple.
 
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They made things worse for themselves, they made Trump stronger.
The left weaponized the justice system. Take the New York case. They retroactively extended the statute of limitations just to go after Trump. Then they took a misdemeanor and expanded it into 34 felonies, for a business entry dispute. Finally, they used that as pretense to go after his entire business empire. Millions of Americans were horrified at what they saw. And it backfired badly on the Dems.
Thank you Dems.



They never used the law. They used lawfare and weaponized the government to take out a political opponent. A corruption and manipulation of the law in an effort to make it look legal didn't fool anybody but the most gullible snowflakes. Even the strongly TDS afflicted knew better. They just can't bring themselves to admit it because it's Trump..
 
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The crazy left couldn't do it alone. Americans used to rely on the mainstream media to uncover nefarious political plots but when the mainstream media became part of the nefarious plot to overthrow the Trump administration all bets were off. They weaponized the "justice dept" and applauded FBI agents who paid for fake documents designed to overthrow the government. They tried to bankrupt Trump with frivolous charges and they used the weaponized FBI to intimidate him in a home invasion. They made it easy (paid for?) an assassin who wounded Trump and they tried it again. Drain the freaking swamp before we lose what's left of the Constitution.
 
Lawlessness won.

No, lawfare lost.

And the protected criminals of the Biden regime lost, too.

Bringing up bogus charges against someone you knowingly hate politically in front of 12 people in a district that is 90% democrat renders our "blind justice system" absolutely useless.

Don't forget, THE BANK he took out the loans with said they were fine with his valuation of his property, they were paid back in full, and were quite happy. Doesn't exactly sound like a crime, does it? Certainly NOT A FELONY. Much less 34 felonies LOL
 
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They made things worse for themselves, they made Trump stronger.
The left weaponized the justice system. Take the New York case. They retroactively extended the statute of limitations just to go after Trump. Then they took a misdemeanor and expanded it into 34 felonies, for a business entry dispute. Finally, they used that as pretense to go after his entire business empire. Millions of Americans were horrified at what they saw. And it backfired badly on the Dems.
Thank you Dems.




Here is how it goes my friend------->

Trump fought the law, and Trump won....

Trump fought the law, and Trump won!

Point is simple------------>not 1 of our politicians from either side of the aisle, could have withstood the attacks that Trump did.

Not one of our politicians in modern times.........in fact since Teddy Roosevelt.....and a later FDR....was willing to campaign like Trump did. Trump went here, there, and everywhere!

When you look at it, Trump wanted the job more than anyone else, just by the 16hrs a day he campaigned. HE put the effort in, MAMALA put the dough in. The American people seen the difference.

The Left, MAMALA, and these LEFTIST clowns on here, deserve everything coming down the pike towards them. They are going to get hammered, and that is an ABSOLUTE FACT!

And I would ask all posters this obvious, and easy question---------->You know how the Leftists proclaim that Trump/conservatives/reasonable Americans, are coming for them and want to put them in gulags?

Then answer all of us this------->why would ALL of these same people come here, and proclaim their resistance? I can/you can/we all can.......if we wish, find their IP address easily, which means the government can pin point them within 30 seconds, no sweat.

REALIZE what is actually going on here------------>you are watching a JOE and MIKA routine where they kiss a** then make excuses, or these people were GASLIGHTING you, and know nobody is knocking on their door, but want to pretend they will, lololol.

These people are ANTI-AMERICAN..........not because of their ideas, but because the only way they get anywhere is by LYING!

The mighty IM2aracist, bergERdeadbeat, MACAFLOOZY, MAMMYmamooth, Gstrap AKA the gestapo, aka GOLFINGphoneybaloney, all have one thing in common----->they deserve one another, lololol.

With this political mandate Trump has.............the GOP has about 100 days to do whatever they want, yes the Left will resist slightly, but they know if they resist to hard, it will really pi** off the voters, which Trump carried to the tune of over 2 million. That is BAAAAAAAAAD politics for the Left-)

Point is---------->all of you post on here, correct! Now, write your reps and incoming senators, and tell them that YOU support them ROLLING them! Let them know, you support mass deportations. Tell them, you support the agenda! Don't leave these people hanging. E-mails WILL stiffen their spine, and get the Trump agenda done!
 
Won you over, that's for sure.
:rolleyes:

You have to remember, the left is STILL saying anyone who didn't vote for Kumalot is racist. So apparently, you're supposed to vote on a candidate based on skin color, not qualifications, not past accomplishments, nope, just the color of their skin and nothing more.

What happens if BOTH the left AND right run black candidates? Who the hell do we vote for then?

Its the LEFT, not the right, who are TRULY the racist party. They run on racism and everything they do is based on race. Yet, they accuse the right of racism. It's so adorable. Remember, it was Biden who was holding hands with a KKK member, Robert KKK Byrd. Remember, it was Biden who said black kids are as smart as white kids. Remember, it was Biden who famously said, "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." Just imagine if Trump had said that. HOLY SHIT the fucking left would have run that non stop on every liberal network for 4 years straight.
 
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You have to remember, the left is STILL saying anyone who didn't vote for Kumalot is racist. So apparently, you're supposed to vote on a candidate based on skin color, not qualifications, not past accomplishments, nope, just the color of their skin and nothing more.

What happens if BOTH the left AND right run black candidates? Who the hell do we vote for then?

Its the LEFT, not the right, who are TRULY the racist party. They run on racism and everything they do is based on race. Yet, they accuse the right of racism. It's so adorable. Remember, it was Biden who was holding hands with a KKK member, Robert KKK Byrd. Remember, it was Biden who famously said, "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black." Just imagine if Trump had said that. HOLY SHIT the fucking left would have run that non stop on every liberal network for 4 years straight.
All that is true.The demented LEFT have been shit stirring racial CRAP since Obama came along.
I'm a 70`s kid. From back then to the turn of the century racial strife and tension was not a THING.

But anyway, the demented LEFT now denying their SOVIET LAWFARE at this point is completely delusional of them, but they're not known to have an ounce of self-awareness.
 
I certainly wouldn't blame Trump, if he does try and go after a certain few individuals. Not sure if it would be legal,

Oh it will be legal...unfortunately that's Trumps way. But it is unlawful to abuse the power of the DOJ & FBI to persecute a person...and that carries stiff penalties.

So I guess I'll have to settle for that.
 

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